Ghadis_God wrote:I never mentioned the dwgr as a way to stack poise, I said that if he's going to be mid rolling he might as well put on as much poise as he can so he can trade hits, or try for fast roll with only 53.
I never said that you did.
Ghadis_God wrote:I never mentioned the dwgr as a way to stack poise, I said that if he's going to be mid rolling he might as well put on as much poise as he can so he can trade hits, or try for fast roll with only 53.
FruitPunchNinja wrote:The thing with the speed nerf, and that same guy who did the Heavy Knight video has a test of. The speed nerf is only to the recovery speed of the r1, you can still chain a stunlock by doing r2-r1 combos. Its obviously a little more difficult then just r1-r1-r1, but it's still completely viable from what ive seen. I still need to try everything for myself, but those videos seem to suggest that the r2 is the same.
I actually think that greatshields are going to be a lot more useful come the DLC patch, cause i think all that confusion about light weapons bouncing off shields only applys to greatshields(and the iron round shield). From what i can tell katana r1s don't bounce off though, really can't wait for the 23rd so i can test everything im curious about for myself.
martyrsbrigade99 wrote:RantFromRant wrote:@martyr but no one mentioned the dwgr, whenver people say fast roll it means fast roll not flip since everyone is doing fast roll builds since the dwgr is getting nerfed really soon. i know what a roll bs'er is and you should know from playing in the burg that roll bs is the only thin gmost people do, good ro bad is there to stay. and yes i know that some people got it cause they wanted to play the new content right away but not a lot and by judging byt the way most people played it looks like they're still getting used to pvp on pc, i couldnt believe when people didnt bs you when you left your bak open for a bs.
All I can say is everyone is not into fishing.
RantFromRant wrote:martyrsbrigade99 wrote:RantFromRant wrote:@martyr but no one mentioned the dwgr, whenver people say fast roll it means fast roll not flip since everyone is doing fast roll builds since the dwgr is getting nerfed really soon. i know what a roll bs'er is and you should know from playing in the burg that roll bs is the only thin gmost people do, good ro bad is there to stay. and yes i know that some people got it cause they wanted to play the new content right away but not a lot and by judging byt the way most people played it looks like they're still getting used to pvp on pc, i couldnt believe when people didnt bs you when you left your bak open for a bs.
All I can say is everyone is not into fishing.
lol maybe not right now but thwy will be and its gonna be the burg al over again but on pc. you can actually se it happening on a video someone posted here where they did nothing but bs and then one of the guys that fouhght him again did nothing but bs instead of showing skill like he did the first time, its kinda funny.
RantFromRant wrote:i use roll bs as an example since you see it A LOT in the burg, i actually think bs in general is such a broken mechanic because of lag that i never use it unless used against me. i would say one out of ten people do not bs in the burg and getting bsed or countering bsed nine time and only have a really good fight once doesnt seem like much fun to me, its just boring. also i have a lot of experience with med rollers since i have all kinds of str since i use them exclusively. i tried dex build but they're boring imo.
I was one of the people who suggested early in the thread that he should use more poise or not Mid roll, your comment about the dwgr was about those people, hence me by extension.martyrsbrigade99 wrote:Ghadis_God wrote:I never mentioned the dwgr as a way to stack poise, I said that if he's going to be mid rolling he might as well put on as much poise as he can so he can trade hits, or try for fast roll with only 53.
I never said that you did.
RantFromRant wrote:you make it seem like i cant deal with bs in general, i can counter it almost every time(except when its really laggy) but im trying to say that its so boring just doing it all the time that it ruins the whole experience for some people and newbies as well since as soon as they see that they learn how to do it and do nothing but that. it feels like youre fighting the same guy and i dont find that fun. also healing just makes it worse, much like bs'ing the more people heal the more people will do it and it just snow balls from there.
Kiva the wanderer wrote:I seriously do believe that the DWGR shouldn't have been in the game.
RantFromRant wrote:Kiva the wanderer wrote:I seriously do believe that the DWGR shouldn't have been in the game.
i think it shouldve been -25% since the beginnning so that it is something cool and not an unbalanced ring for pvp.
reim0027 wrote:Without putting in more hyper armor, Str weapons just got more challenging, and Dex weapons got stronger. But, Kats are pretty easy to counter: a good shield. Plus the roll R1 with weapons like the Zwei can be good since they will outreach kats. Don't forget GC for when they get all pokey-pokey.
Kiva the wanderer wrote:The point of a tank is not to roll thats like watching a space marine do the worm.
Kiva the wanderer wrote:Katanas are overated a longsword-a generic medieval straight weapon in my opinion is just as viable as a katana in the right hands, I may also add it earns you style points.
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