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    Sorcery is useless

    Post by Midgar on 08/02/12, 01:18 pm

    I remember having a lot more fun with it in Demon Soul's, it was a lot more effective there if I recall correctly. All the spells now cast incredibly slow making them easily dodgeable, a 10 year old could button bash and still dodge most of them. Not to mention compared to the offensive spells for miracles and pyromancy they are complete crap. At least miracles/pyros have spells that cover a 360 radius even if they are still a bit slow to cast, far more likely to actually hit someone. My main build is intel and I hardly ever use sorcery, it's extremely rare I actually hit someone and when I do it's usually when they try to estus or stop to use a spell. Guess I'll make a faith build Sad


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    Re: Sorcery is useless

    Post by Serious_Much on 08/02/12, 01:20 pm

    ....So you are rating the effectiveness of it on the fact you can dodge it?

    you can dodge anything in PvP not just sorcery, lol


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    Re: Sorcery is useless

    Post by Carphil on 08/02/12, 01:20 pm

    If Big Hat Carphil invade you and sundetly you die by a Crystal Soul Spear, don't cry.


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    Re: Sorcery is useless

    Post by Midgar on 08/02/12, 01:24 pm

    Serious_Much wrote:....So you are rating the effectiveness of it on the fact you can dodge it?

    you can dodge anything in PvP not just sorcery, lol


    More like how slow they are to use, you can easily see it coming unless you have the reflexes of a turtle. Just roll to the side and it's avoided, you can get hit far more easily with spells like WoG or Chaos Storm. Just saying Sorcery is pretty underpowered.


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    Re: Sorcery is useless

    Post by Serious_Much on 08/02/12, 01:26 pm

    It's not underpowered.. in fact it's far more powerful than other magics and thats the point.

    You're less likely to hit with it, but if you do it'll either be an insta kill or they'll have just enough health left to watch you finish them off.


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    Re: Sorcery is useless

    Post by Carphil on 08/02/12, 01:27 pm

    You have -14 rep and you're just trolling, perfect target pratice for soul spear


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    Re: Sorcery is useless

    Post by Midgar on 08/02/12, 01:28 pm

    Serious_Much wrote:It's not underpowered.. in fact it's far more powerful than other magics and thats the point.

    You're less likely to hit with it, but if you do it'll either be an insta kill or they'll have just enough health left to watch you finish them off.


    I don't agree with that, I have 50 Intel and I hit someone earlier for like 400-500. That's maybe a 1/3 of their health. And if they use a shield, well..that's obvious.


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    Re: Sorcery is useless

    Post by meridam99 on 08/02/12, 01:29 pm

    In Demon's Souls, magic was WAY overpowered. You could play the whole game without basically picking up a sword (unless you were going to platinum). I think I killed each and every boss in Demon Souls except Old Monk with Magic. In PVP in Demon's Souls it was Sorcery > DBS > Meat Cleaver > then any other weapon with Fatal then backstab.


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    Re: Sorcery is useless

    Post by Midgar on 08/02/12, 01:31 pm

    Carphil wrote:You have -14 rep and you're just trolling, perfect target pratice for soul spear


    And you're probably just a 16 year old kid so your opinion is worthless, either that or you're 30 years old and grow your EPeen out by trying to put people down on a forum. I applaud you sir.


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    Re: Sorcery is useless

    Post by Serious_Much on 08/02/12, 01:31 pm

    Midgar wrote:
    Serious_Much wrote:It's not underpowered.. in fact it's far more powerful than other magics and thats the point.

    You're less likely to hit with it, but if you do it'll either be an insta kill or they'll have just enough health left to watch you finish them off.


    I don't agree with that, I have 50 Intel and I hit someone earlier for like 400-500. That's maybe a 1/3 of their health. And if they use a shield, well..that's obvious.


    equip bellowing ring, crown of dusk, TCC, hit someone with crystal soul spear then come back and tell me it's underpowered. seriously.


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    Re: Sorcery is useless

    Post by Midgar on 08/02/12, 01:32 pm

    meridam99 wrote:In Demon's Souls, magic was WAY overpowered. You could play the whole game without basically picking up a sword (unless you were going to platinum). I think I killed each and every boss in Demon Souls except Old Monk with Magic. In PVP in Demon's Souls it was Sorcery > DBS > Meat Cleaver > then any other weapon with Fatal then backstab.


    Yeah, I was all about Sorcery when I played in Demon Soul's, it was awesome. I think the animation for casting might've been faster too but I could be wrong, it's beena few years since I last played that game lol.


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    Re: Sorcery is useless

    Post by djgq42 on 08/02/12, 01:34 pm

    Carphil wrote:You have -14 rep and you're just trolling, perfect target pratice for soul spear


    now that was funny:lol: enjoy your cookie!


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    Re: Sorcery is useless

    Post by Serious_Much on 08/02/12, 01:34 pm

    Midgar wrote:
    meridam99 wrote:In Demon's Souls, magic was WAY overpowered. You could play the whole game without basically picking up a sword (unless you were going to platinum). I think I killed each and every boss in Demon Souls except Old Monk with Magic. In PVP in Demon's Souls it was Sorcery > DBS > Meat Cleaver > then any other weapon with Fatal then backstab.


    Yeah, I was all about Sorcery when I played in Demon Soul's, it was awesome. I think the animation for casting might've been faster too but I could be wrong, it's beena few years since I last played that game lol.


    I only just started a mage character (literally just to see what happened if you kill vanguard) but the casting on soul arrow seems faster yeah.

    I can understand why Dark souls implemented cast numbers, having unlimited (pretty much) castings of powerful sorceries would mean a crazy easy time, looking forward to trolling demons with it after my first play through Very Happy


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    Re: Sorcery is useless

    Post by meridam99 on 08/02/12, 01:35 pm

    Midgar wrote:
    meridam99 wrote:In Demon's Souls, magic was WAY overpowered. You could play the whole game without basically picking up a sword (unless you were going to platinum). I think I killed each and every boss in Demon Souls except Old Monk with Magic. In PVP in Demon's Souls it was Sorcery > DBS > Meat Cleaver > then any other weapon with Fatal then backstab.


    Yeah, I was all about Sorcery when I played in Demon Soul's, it was awesome. I think the animation for casting might've been faster too but I could be wrong, it's beena few years since I last played that game lol.


    What I meant is that Demon's Souls was magic Centric, Dark Souls is Melee Centric.


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    Re: Sorcery is useless

    Post by Midgar on 08/02/12, 01:36 pm

    Serious_Much wrote:
    Midgar wrote:
    Serious_Much wrote:It's not underpowered.. in fact it's far more powerful than other magics and thats the point.

    You're less likely to hit with it, but if you do it'll either be an insta kill or they'll have just enough health left to watch you finish them off.


    I don't agree with that, I have 50 Intel and I hit someone earlier for like 400-500. That's maybe a 1/3 of their health. And if they use a shield, well..that's obvious.


    equip bellowing ring, crown of dusk, TCC, hit someone with crystal soul spear then come back and tell me it's underpowered. seriously.


    Hmm well I've never used the first two with the TCC, you only get two casts though and they are likely misses, oh well I'll try your suggestion. Maybe I'll use the basic soul arrow and see what kind of damage it does, it's a lot faster, might be worth it.


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