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    Useless Char?

    Post by Ohakles on Wed May 29, 2013 8:39 am

    Hello everyone,

    i ve done a char so far but now i have the feeling that i got the wrong skills to work with artorias greatsword propperly. these are my stats

    Vi 20
    Att 10
    End 17
    Str 26
    Dex 24
    Res 10
    Int 20
    Faith 23

    Can i rescue the build or not, would be nice if you can help me
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    Re: Useless Char?

    Post by twigsterxd on Wed May 29, 2013 9:46 am

    wut level are you going for? are you capping it or going as high as you can? its a little wonky but you may be able to fix it if you give a few more details. wut type of build is it?


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    Re: Useless Char?

    Post by AnCapaillMor on Wed May 29, 2013 10:01 am

    Well the in reqs are 24STR 18DEX 20Faith 20INT. It scales C,C,B,B according to the wiki, just don't put anything else into str and dex and you you're on the right track. Just put the remaining into faith and int.


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    Re: Useless Char?

    Post by Nightmare Moon on Wed May 29, 2013 10:10 am

    The good thing is you havent wasted any points on resistance. If your going for a higher level build then it could be rescued. You could use more points in endurance. If you like the weapons that get stronger with dexterity( Like the uchigatana, rapier, flamberge,Maurakomo) your build could be saved happy

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    Re: Useless Char?

    Post by Ohakles on Wed May 29, 2013 10:35 am

    ok im wearing ornsteins armor...ring of favour and havels ring...at the moment im using artorias sword with these stats...then came the dragonslayer speer and i put dex to 24, thats the mistake i guess but i like roleplaying...but my strength build on xbox is much better, so i got a bad feeling about this char

    and thank you all for your help i like the souls communuty
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    Re: Useless Char?

    Post by Nightmare Moon on Wed May 29, 2013 10:47 am

    If you plan on making a build set to use Artorias' sword then definatley go for a high level. Get Int,Faith,Strength,Dex to 40. Endurance to about 30. Arty's greatsword is most effective with these stats i think? Then from that point you can put points into attunment if you wanna use any sort of miracles, sorcery or pyromancy but you shouldnt need more than 4 slots. Oh yea forgot to say that this would also optimize the use of the dragonslayer spear to since dex and faith are high


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    Re: Useless Char?

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Wed May 29, 2013 10:50 am

    Ohakles wrote:ok im wearing ornsteins armor...ring of favour and havels ring...at the moment im using artorias sword with these stats...then came the dragonslayer speer and i put dex to 24, thats the mistake i guess but i like roleplaying...but my strength build on xbox is much better, so i got a bad feeling about this char

    and thank you all for your help i like the souls communuty

    Artorias builds are always flawed, you shouldn't hold it to the same standards as you would other PvP optimized builds. Like others have said, go for a high SL and you should be fine.


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    Re: Useless Char?

    Post by Ohakles on Wed May 29, 2013 11:37 am

    ok...and vitalitiy? and is it realy possible to get all these stats to 40? seems kinda hard to me
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    Re: Useless Char?

    Post by Nightmare Moon on Wed May 29, 2013 11:51 am

    Its very possible To be honest, vitality is ok at 20, but if you want it higher by all mines level it, it is your character after all

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    Re: Useless Char?

    Post by Ohakles on Wed May 29, 2013 12:42 pm

    thank you a lot...i will hang on at this char
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    Re: Useless Char?

    Post by twigsterxd on Wed May 29, 2013 2:18 pm

    Just FYI, all stats max out at 99.


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    Re: Useless Char?

    Post by TheDarkPygmy on Wed May 29, 2013 2:23 pm

    With the lower scaling in STR/DEX pimp out your Faith/INT, maybe go with some more VIT, but other than that you should do fine in PvE.


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    Re: Useless Char?

    Post by ICEFANG on Wed May 29, 2013 2:26 pm

    I would suggest deletion (or I suppose just making a new one) of any character that has STR+DEX+INT+FAI, even at soul level 200, you can't really make use of those stats. Any of the wolf greatswords that interact with both INT and FAI are just terrible weapons, there is no reason to make 2 weapons (Divine and Enchanted, they both do magic damage), you can't really benefit from a buff, I suppose if someone used Great Magic Barrier you could use Sunlight Blade instead, but at Soul Level 200 everyone will be better min-maxed then you. Lastly, using both Miracles and Sorceries is pretty flawed. You will have to pump a lot into ATT (and then you've put points into every stat, cept that nearly worthless RES), but it also takes up 2 weapons slots unless you don't mind some quick swapping, which I try to avoid, just cause.



    I have considered a build that takes advantage of those stats and releases tension from END+VIT which allowed it to be a lower level character, but I can't remember it, give me a moment and I will try to make it again.

    I assume you started as a knight, because of the 10 ATT and 10 RES, I will design this character first for what I wanted to do with it, and then what you could do with it.

    http://mmdks.com/2isb

    That was the design to be the bestest tank ever and fast roll, you see I like Dragonbro so I understand you'd like armor. Make sure you remove that Orstein Armor as its never the best, compared to upgraded armor after you upgrade it.

    I see now looking at your stats that you could do it very close, and remain below SL 100. I would suggest you put more points into END (get to SL 100), and use the Ring of Favor and Protection, or Havel's Ring to increase your Equip Load and wear some serious armorage, if you wanted to try it of course. You can downgrade the spear into the Sliver Knight's Spear and that should also give you more EL to work with, or even a Winged Spear or Partizan or normal Spear if you are inclined.

    Not the best build, but not the best stats either. I maximized armor for highest lightning defense, where the defense is weakest (although with the Black Knight Shield and Great Magic Shield, it still would do almost nothing, but with Great Magic Barrier, magic is even less dangerous).

    http://mmdks.com/2ise


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    Re: Useless Char?

    Post by Ohakles on Wed May 29, 2013 4:11 pm

    so you think i should make a new char...but it is possible to make something good around the dragonslayer spear...i hate the artorias weapons now, 30 hours for nothing

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    Re: Useless Char?

    Post by Ohakles on Wed May 29, 2013 7:00 pm

    ive looked at my sl 77 strengh build with a plus 5 black knight greatsword and he put just 4 points more damage out compared to my sl 69 artorias quality thing build...maybe it isnt so bad as i thought
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    Re: Useless Char?

    Post by ICEFANG on Wed May 29, 2013 7:02 pm

    I dunno exactly what you mean, but the Artorias Greatsword with c/c/b/b scaling does split damage, do against most players, its really bad for its stat requirements.


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    Re: Useless Char?

    Post by twigsterxd on Wed May 29, 2013 7:18 pm

    ICEFANG wrote:I dunno exactly what you mean, but the Artorias Greatsword with c/c/b/b scaling does split damage, do against most players, its really bad for its stat requirements.
    The OP did ask after your post if he can still use that build for his spear. After reading your other post and thinking bout my build you and the guys helped me with, I gotta say I'm with you in saying do-over.

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    Re: Useless Char?

    Post by Ohakles on Wed May 29, 2013 7:57 pm

    ok...man, im really disappointed. i thought its a great weapon and a funny way to play the game but now i must realize thats its a very shi..way

    now i have no idea what i should play next time...strengh not again, i have a dex/pyro build but just no...i would like to do it like orns but that wouldnt work out properly out i think. just dont know

    but im really happy about your post and your strong will to help me^^ thanks guys...maybe someone have a clever idea whats next
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    Re: Useless Char?

    Post by ICEFANG on Wed May 29, 2013 8:18 pm

    Ohakles wrote:ok...man, im really disappointed. i thought its a great weapon and a funny way to play the game but now i must realize thats its a very shi..way

    now i have no idea what i should play next time...strengh not again, i have a dex/pyro build but just no...i would like to do it like orns but that wouldnt work out properly out i think. just dont know

    but im really happy about your post and your strong will to help me^^ thanks guys...maybe someone have a clever idea whats next

    Maybe?
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    Re: Useless Char?

    Post by Ohakles on Wed May 29, 2013 8:29 pm

    looks nice...maybe im back on undead streets tomorow and spear those guys away

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