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    How to get spells from npc?

    Post by Micha369 on Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:15 am

    Hello folks,

    When is it possible to buy a spell? In my nexus are already sitting a
    few extra npc but nobody teaches me spells! I don't know their names.
    But it is a woman and 3 guys (one of them is this B...who helps me
    against this dragon) Not that I really miss spells at the moment but
    later I do need one or two, I think.

    I'm a dex char at about sl 70. I already did a few bosses including an Arch Demon (is this the correct name? Because my game is german language)
    Which guys I have to free or to rescue to get magical spells and miracles?
    How do I see the names of the npc sitting in the nexus?
    The name of a dealer ist easy to see again. But the non vendor npc?

    Thanks for your help.


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    Re: How to get spells from npc?

    Post by Dibsville on Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:17 am

    Right, there's a few NPC's on one side, the NPC that teaches Miracles is just behind them, and the NPC that teaches spells is on the opposite side of the room, around the Sixth archstone.


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    Re: How to get spells from npc?

    Post by Reaperfan on Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:50 am

    Micha369 wrote:Which guys I have to free or to rescue to get magical spells and miracles?

    There are 3 spell tutors that you can rescue. Sage Freke, Yuria the Witch, and Saint Urbain. Sage Freke and Yuria teach magic, and Urbain teaches miracles.

    Sage Freke is in the prisons of 3-1, and you rescue him by using a key you found near the prisoner you killed who was casting magic spells and told you not to attack him. After being rescued, he shows up in the Nexus behind the staircases between the Archstones to worlds 4 and 5.

    Yuria is in 1-3 after a lengthy sidequest that involves using items obtained from the Fat Ministers you kill throughout the area. After being rescued she shows up in the Nexus in a far corner on the side opposite Boldwin and Stockpile Thomas.

    Urbain is in 4-2 in the pit that Patches kicks you into. Simply kill the black phantom guarding the exit and talk to him before leaving. After being rescued he shows up in the Nexus in the same place the old miracle teacher was at.

    Micha369 wrote:How do I see the names of the npc sitting in the nexus? The name of a dealer ist easy to see again. But the non vendor npc?

    Non-vendor NPCs don't usually have explicit names unless they are mentioned in dialogue or on the loading screens. For instance, the lady who sits near Boldwin in the Nexus is usually only referred to as something like "Female Urbain's Apprentice." So if you can't tell who someone's talking about because they didn't say a name, don't worry. The vague description is usually the best those characters get straight face


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    Re: How to get spells from npc?

    Post by Micha369 on Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:53 am

    So, after reading Reaperfan's posting I have the feeling, I already was in the near of all tree teachers (or even talked to them). But non of them is already in the nexus!
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    Re: How to get spells from npc?

    Post by Walter_White on Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:31 pm

    just try to rescue everybody, they will populate the nexus....except one, he will de-populate the nexus LOL


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    Re: How to get spells from npc?

    Post by Micha369 on Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:52 pm

    Walter_White wrote:just try to rescue everybody, they will populate the nexus....except one, he will de-populate the nexus LOL

    Who is it that depopulates my nexus? I already have tree corpses!

    Thanks!


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    Re: How to get spells from npc?

    Post by Micha369 on Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:11 pm

    Reaperfan wrote:
    Micha369 wrote:Which guys I have to free or to rescue to get magical spells and miracles?

    Sage Freke is in the prisons of 3-1, and you rescue him by using a key you found near the prisoner you killed who was casting magic spells and told you not to attack him. After being rescued, he shows up in the Nexus behind the staircases between the Archstones to worlds 4 and 5.

    I don't find the keys! There still is a blue guy behind a locked cell door!
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    Re: How to get spells from npc?

    Post by Walter_White on Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:29 pm

    Micha369 wrote:
    Walter_White wrote:just try to rescue everybody, they will populate the nexus....except one, he will de-populate the nexus LOL

    Who is it that depopulates my nexus? I already have tree corpses!

    Thanks!



    who was locked away VERY good and suspicious from the first moment?
    i really spoil you, if i tell you....
    Have you talked to everybody in the nexus?

    p.s.: he is not talking much...now you know it's a male person...and a person lol


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    Re: How to get spells from npc?

    Post by Reaperfan on Sat Jun 08, 2013 12:37 am

    Micha369 wrote:I already was in the near of all tree teachers (or even talked to them). But non of them is already in the nexus!

    Walter_White wrote:...except one, he will de-populate the nexus LOL

    ^I fear this is what may have happened if you're already a good ways through the game. There's spoilers involved so I won't say explicitly who or what may have happened unless you ask for me to do so, though.


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    Re: How to get spells from npc?

    Post by Micha369 on Sat Jun 08, 2013 4:06 am

    The problem is, that I'm so bad at remembering names, I have to admit!

    I really have already freed the guy from 3-1. I wasn't sure because there is a second guy (in blue colour) still locked behind bars. And that guy I cannot free. I guess I have to be PWCT. Because I found a door with a hint on the floor that I can go here only with PWCT.

    Who ist that blue guy in 3-1?
    BTW this B.. guy who helped me with this dragon in 1-4 is deas now and the dragon still alive. False King also is dead.

    In the Nexus there are two guys who doesn't want to talk to me. One of them, the older one, says something that he is too old. His stuff looks like he is a magican. And the second ond only tells me that he doesn't talk to rude people like me.
    Maybe I don't have enough Int (11) or Magic (still the starting value of Temple Knights)?



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    Re: How to get spells from npc?

    Post by Reaperfan on Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:13 am

    Micha369 wrote:Who ist that blue guy in 3-1?

    He is called Lord Rydell, and he's part of the Pure White World Tendency event for world 3. At PWWT in 3-2 a new bridge appears by the first chain tower (the place where the prisoners were holding up the chains for the giant heart) and across that bridge at the top of some stairs is a key for all the cells on Rydell's prison level. After freeing him with that key he gives you a ring as a reward (I think it's the Dull Rat's Ring) and hints that he left some valuable loot on his corpse. Exploring more of the cells that you can now open with your new key you'll eventually find his body as well as some rare armor sets. He doesn't appear in the Nexus though after you save him.

    Micha369 wrote:In the Nexus there are two guys who doesn't want to talk to me. One of them, the older one, says something that he is too old. His stuff looks like he is a magican. And the second ond only tells me that he doesn't talk to rude people like me.
    Maybe I don't have enough Int (11) or Magic (still the starting value of Temple Knights)?

    Those are Sage Freke and his apprentice, and you are correct in assuming that your Magic is too low (Int doesn't matter though). Similar to Dark Souls, the spell teachers won't teach you at all without a certain base value. I'm not entirely sure, but I think you need 15 Magic to learn spells from them.


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    Re: How to get spells from npc?

    Post by Micha369 on Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:22 am

    Thanks for that info! BTW, the guy who always told me being rude is now gone (I assume he is dead).

    In the DeS Wiki I saw a dex build with the following stats:

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    Vit 50
    Int 18
    End 40
    Str.18
    Dex 50
    Faith 16
    magic -- (kept at 6)
    Luck -- (kept at 7)

    Can anyone tell me what is Int 18 and Magic -- for?

    Thanks!

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    Re: How to get spells from npc?

    Post by Micha369 on Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:34 pm

    Dear specialists,

    why do I need Int 18?
    I now have put a lot of points into Int and I still don't know what for except that it was recommended for a dex char.
    Faith 16 is clear, though.

    Is it worth at all to buy magics as a mainly dex char? I also wanted to try a little pvp.

    Thanks!


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    Re: How to get spells from npc?

    Post by Reaperfan on Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:41 pm

    Micha369 wrote:Dear specialists,

    why do I need Int 18?
    I now have put a lot of points into Int and I still don't know what for except that it was recommended for a dex char.
    Faith 16 is clear, though.

    What magics are worth buying at all as a mainly dex char? I also wante to try a little pvp.

    Thanks!


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    The Int 18 is there for the same reason Faith is at 16, to cast Second Chance.  18 Int is the minimum level to have 100 MP to cast the miracle.  Any less than 18 Int, and even if you have Second Chance memorized, you won't be able to cast it because your MP will always be too low.  This can be "loopholed" around by equipping MP-boosting items (Silver Coronet headgear and the Silver Catalyst), but that involves menu-swapping gear just to cast it, which makes it a bad idea since you can't recast it in mid-combat.


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    Re: How to get spells from npc?

    Post by Micha369 on Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:16 am

    Ok, got it! Thanks


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    Re: How to get spells from npc?

    Post by Micha369 on Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:30 pm

    Walter_White wrote:
    Micha369 wrote:
    Walter_White wrote:just try to rescue everybody, they will populate the nexus....except one, he will de-populate the nexus LOL

    Who is it that depopulates my nexus? I already have tree corpses!

    Thanks!



    who was locked away VERY good and suspicious from the first moment?
    i really spoil you, if i tell you....
    Have you talked to everybody in the nexus?

    p.s.: he is not talking much...now you know it's a male person...and a person lol

    I killed the knight who was in a hanging cage in world 3. Was this the correct choice?
    Because after this guy was freed the kiling in my nexus began and he says "life is not as precious as thought" or something like that.
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    Re: How to get spells from npc?

    Post by Reaperfan on Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:03 am

    Micha369 wrote:I killed the knight who was in a hanging cage in world 3. Was this the correct choice?

    Yes pony01


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    Re: How to get spells from npc?

    Post by Micha369 on Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:15 am

    Reaperfan wrote:
    Micha369 wrote:I killed the knight who was in a hanging cage in world 3. Was this the correct choice?

    Yes pony01

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    Re: How to get spells from npc?

    Post by Walter_White on Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:07 am

    now you can go evil....get pbct and talk to mephistopheles, then you do yurts job, and much more twisted twisted


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