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    Post by Latitoast Sat May 11, 2013 12:25 am

    It's impossible to fast roll as Tarkus.

    Even with 99 and the FaP and Havel's.
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    Post by CarverUpqik Sat May 11, 2013 2:22 am

    same with havel or stone guardian(past and present)
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    Post by Hue Sat May 11, 2013 5:00 am

    It's very difficult to achieve one king alone (NG+)
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    Post by Marino. Sat May 11, 2013 6:26 am

    The_Red_Drifter wrote:Yesterday, I learned multi projectile sorceries such as HCSM and Pursuers get a much bigger damage boost out of Crown of Dusk and Bellowing Ring than the Arrows or Spears. I didn't test it out with Crystal Cat but I can only imagine it's the same deal. And a non boosted HCSM only deals almost as much damage as a Great Heavy Soul Arrow, which is hilarious.

    Did you test it on an Enemy that can survive the Attack ?
    If not your results might be falsified .
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    Post by ResIsBestStat Sat May 11, 2013 6:33 am

    We have 3 bonfire sitting animations, I discovered this yesterday while my character couldn't invade and i tried sitting near the bonfire many times
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    Post by Marino. Sat May 11, 2013 6:35 am

    ResIsBestStat wrote:We have 3 bonfire sitting animations, I discovered this yesterday while my character couldn't invade and i tried sitting near the bonfire many times

    I see, someone else watched VaatiVadyas Videos winking
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    Post by ResIsBestStat Sat May 11, 2013 6:44 am

    Marino. wrote:
    ResIsBestStat wrote:We have 3 bonfire sitting animations, I discovered this yesterday while my character couldn't invade and i tried sitting near the bonfire many times

    I see, someone else watched VaatiVadyas Videos winking

    Nope
    Wait he released another video?
    Must watch
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    Post by Marino. Sat May 11, 2013 6:47 am

    You're not subscribed to him yet ?
    Tsk Tsk .
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    Post by ResIsBestStat Sat May 11, 2013 6:53 am

    Marino. wrote:You're not subscribed to him yet ?
    Tsk Tsk .

    I am, I just don't go too much on youtube nowadays
    lol wat the sequel to 10 things in dark souls, i knew all those things, the fire damage against the bloated hollow, you didn't get me vaati winking
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    Post by Elifia Sat May 11, 2013 6:54 am

    The_Red_Drifter wrote:Yesterday, I learned multi projectile sorceries such as HCSM and Pursuers get a much bigger damage boost out of Crown of Dusk and Bellowing Ring than the Arrows or Spears. I didn't test it out with Crystal Cat but I can only imagine it's the same deal. And a non boosted HCSM only deals almost as much damage as a Great Heavy Soul Arrow, which is hilarious.

    Well, this makes sense actually when you know how defence works. HCSM has to go through one's defence 5 times as opposed to once, and due to the way defence works, defence becomes less and less effective the more damage a single hit deals. By increasing the damage of a single hit, you are basically penetrating your opponent's defence.

    Same story goes for split damage btw. When boosted enough (or when used on an enemy with low enough defence) Black Flame will out-damage Great Combustion.
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    Post by Elifia Sat May 11, 2013 7:53 am

    Bed of Chaos does have more than 1 hp. In NG+++, she has 5 hp. I didn't kill her in 1 punch and took a fire tempest to the face because of it sad
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    Post by ResIsBestStat Sat May 11, 2013 12:16 pm

    You can actually fast roll with Havel's, but you need 99 endurance rofap and no weapons equipped or something
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    Post by Marino. Sat May 11, 2013 12:21 pm

    ResIsBestStat wrote:You can actually fast roll with Havel's, but you need 99 endurance rofap and no weapons equipped or something

    99 Endurence and Havels ring are enough to Fast roll with full Havel, if you add the FaP you can even equip some weapons .

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/
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    Post by Dibsville Sat May 11, 2013 12:29 pm

    I'm making this
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    Post by Dibsville Sat May 11, 2013 12:43 pm

    If your build has an Elemental Falchion, switch it to an Elemental Shotel.
    Same damage.
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    Post by Hue Sat May 11, 2013 1:10 pm

    Dibs, whenever i see your avatar; in my head, i think you are doing the same thing in front of your computer
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    Post by Dibsville Sat May 11, 2013 1:11 pm

    Look who's talking. silly
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    Post by The_Red_Drifter Sat May 11, 2013 1:46 pm

    Elifia wrote:Well, this makes sense actually when you know how
    defence works. HCSM has to go through one's defence 5 times as opposed
    to once, and due to the way defence works, defence becomes less and less
    effective the more damage a single hit deals. By increasing the damage
    of a single hit, you are basically penetrating your opponent's defence.

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    story goes for split damage btw. When boosted enough (or when used on
    an enemy with low enough defence) Black Flame will out-damage Great
    Combustion.
    Yeah, I figured it may have something to do with it. I decided to do testing in the first place due to a topic wondering if there's a difference between Dark and Normal Magic. I just didn't expect some of the numbers I was pulling unboosted, though.
    Marino. wrote:Did you test it on an Enemy that can survive the Attack ?
    If not your results might be falsified .
    I did testing on the giant clams in Ash Lake on NG. Those things have around 800 health, CHSM did 300 while GHSA did 306 with just Logan's and 44 INT. Very different story with Bellowing and Dusk Crown, CHSM does 765 while GHSA does 539.


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    Post by CarverUpqik Sat May 11, 2013 4:43 pm

    ok so these are the ppl that its impossible to fast roll with useing ONLY their items (not including rings)
    Sentinel
    SmoughStone Guardian
    Stone Soldier
    Havel the Rock
    Black Iron Taurkus


    and these are the people impossible to fast roll as using strictly their items (including rings)(this category obviously includes the above characters)
    Gough
    Artorias (using his lightest sword/shield)
    Paladin Leeroy
    Ornstein
    Iron GolemBlack Knight (Lightest BK Weapon)
    Silver Knight Spear Version (the sword version and the sword/bow verions are also impossible since they are heavier)
    Crestfallen Merchant/Darkmoon Steel Knight
    Crystal
    Knight
    Sieglinde (since her father uses the Zwei instead of Claymore Hes out also)

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    Rheas Cleric Guard (obviously the other ones out because the Axe weighs more than the mace. cant test petrus bc i think hes wearing elite cleric armor)
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    Post by hey its andres Sat May 11, 2013 5:30 pm

    I don't know if this is a glitch or a secret, but if you have the iron round shield you can do a bash attack. I was rolling around waiting to get invaded and I'm not sure how but on two occasions I did a bash instead of a parry :suspect:
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    Post by Domhnall of Zena Sat May 11, 2013 5:33 pm

    CarverUpqik wrote:

    and these are the people impossible to fast roll as using strictly their items (including rings)(this category obviously includes the above characters)
    Gough
    Artorias (using his lightest sword/shield)
    Paladin Leeroy
    Ornstein
    Iron GolemBlack Knight (Lightest BK Weapon)
    Silver Knight Spear Version (the sword version and the sword/bow verions are also impossible since they are heavier)
    Crestfallen Merchant/Darkmoon Steel Knight
    Crystal
    Knight
    Sieglinde (since her father uses the Zwei instead of Claymore Hes out also)

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    Post by CarverUpqik Sat May 11, 2013 5:47 pm

    Domhnall of Zena wrote:
    CarverUpqik wrote:

    and these are the people impossible to fast roll as using strictly their items (including rings)(this category obviously includes the above characters)
    Gough
    Artorias (using his lightest sword/shield)
    Paladin Leeroy
    Ornstein
    Iron GolemBlack Knight (Lightest BK Weapon)
    Silver Knight Spear Version (the sword version and the sword/bow verions are also impossible since they are heavier)
    Crestfallen Merchant/Darkmoon Steel Knight
    Crystal
    Knight
    Sieglinde (since her father uses the Zwei instead of Claymore Hes out also)

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    I just learned that people think I am fat. sad

    lol no no your average you medium roll lol, just realized i got the same link twice lol posted domhnall as sieglinde lol but no domhnall cosplay will medium roll also
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    Post by CarverUpqik Sat May 11, 2013 6:05 pm

    i just discovered that if you take 2 of the same exact weapon put one in your left hand and one in your right hand the one in the left has less AR
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    Post by hey its andres Sat May 11, 2013 6:21 pm

    A lot of the Dark Souls community has good taste in anime
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    Post by Latitoast Sat May 11, 2013 7:51 pm

    Carver, I just wanted to point out Tarkus is not on your list. Neither is Shiva nor Havel.

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