Do you heal your phantoms?

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    Do you heal your phantoms?

    Post by WandererReece on Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:04 pm

    I've seen people complain about host not healing them, but never had that happen to me.

    I will heal my phantoms only if they are about to die, but I will always heal them in a boss fight.


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    Re: Do you heal your phantoms?

    Post by LunarFog on Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:09 pm

    It depends on how useful they are. If I know that killing the boss without them would be a pain, then I keep them alive. If they're there just to save some time then I don't heal them

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    Re: Do you heal your phantoms?

    Post by The Letter X on Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:20 pm

    It depends on how much Estus I have, but I normally heal my phbantoms outside of a boss fight if they are about to die and need the immediate help or if it seems like they have no humanity. I always heal them in a boss fight.


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    Re: Do you heal your phantoms?

    Post by Sentiel on Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:49 pm

    Well, if both of my phantoms have HP below 75% I use Estus, even if my HP is full.
    If only one of them has low HP I won't heal him, unless he's fighting, so he can't heal himself. If he screws up so much that he needs healing, but the rest doesn't he should heal himself.
    In Bossfight I heal them if they get below 50% as long as I have Estus.

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    Re: Do you heal your phantoms?

    Post by Carphil on Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:18 pm

    all the time, and then when I run out of estus and they die, I message them


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    Re: Do you heal your phantoms?

    Post by psychichobo on Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:58 pm

    If they die, then things start hitting me. No different to healing myself in the long run.
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    Re: Do you heal your phantoms?

    Post by Slarg232 on Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:10 pm

    I view my job during a summons is to stay safe while the summons do the brunt of the work, so I do everything I can to not be lazy. Including chug all Estus while I remain full health and use whatever sort of magic i can.


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    Re: Do you heal your phantoms?

    Post by Sanhedrim on Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:14 pm

    I heal them whenever they take a significant hit. It's the polite thing to do.

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    Re: Do you heal your phantoms?

    Post by Marino. on Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:23 pm

    Depends .
    If i see them running around the level with 40% Health and not popping Humanity i heal them .

    And i always Heal in Boss fights since Bosses tend to focus on one Player at the Time giving me plenty of room to drink mah juice .
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    Re: Do you heal your phantoms?

    Post by Seignar on Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:11 pm

    I only heal them if I see their health is below 70% and it depends on my health:

    1. My health is at a value deemed not worthy of healing: I drop a humanity
    2. My health is at a value deemed worthy of healing: I use Estus

    Personally, it is usually #1 since I mostly stay back and let them do the job. Not mainly because it is the wisest move, but because most phantoms rush ahead before I do.

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    Re: Do you heal your phantoms?

    Post by reim0027 on Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:20 pm

    It's their job to get me through the level or die trying. I'd rather they not die, so I heal them, even if I'm at full health. I'll stage my healing based on their skill. If they get hit a lot, I'll heal them sooner.


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    Re: Do you heal your phantoms?

    Post by Hugh_G_Johnson on Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:32 am

    I consider their health, my health, the amount of estus I have left and what I think I'll need later. I'll always try to keep a summon alive in the middle of a fight, but if one guy's almost dead and there's a break in the action I'll wait for him to hit a humanity -- they usually do, anyway. As a summon I get annoyed when a host won't estus when we both could use it. I've actually passed opportunities to heal myself; figuring either he'll do it eventually or he doesn't want/deserve my help. But, only if the host is really bad about it. Most hosts are very good about it, however.

    Personally, I'm not that concerned about if they're good or not. It's tough to be so bad that they can't make up for the boss's extra HP. They'd have to pull a real bonehead move at a critical time and that's difficult to see coming, anyway. Also, consider that someone who appears to suck going through an area may be quite useful against the boss. I've gone through a few levels where the other guy(s) were tearing everybody up and I'm just trying to keep up and then I do almost all the damage on the boss and make it look easy.


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    Re: Do you heal your phantoms?

    Post by GrinTwist on Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:52 am

    I've never summoned a player for co-op before so I can't really say.

    I'd just say that if you were the host you should assume that those phantoms are there to rely on you as a teammate and that you should work with your phantom when it comes to healing them. I'm sure some of the more experienced phantoms might know that they might need to take some humanity with them when it comes to co-oping with a new player just in case they don't know how to heal a phantom.


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    Re: Do you heal your phantoms?

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sat Feb 16, 2013 2:18 am

    Provided they're not completely idiotic I'll heal them and keep them up. I can almost always spare the flasks.


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    Re: Do you heal your phantoms?

    Post by IV_Mark_VI on Sat Feb 16, 2013 3:19 am

    I heal them whenever possible, but if they're reckless and I feel we migh run out of flasks, then I stop healing. Some people just trade blows, and on NG+, there isnt' enough healing to go around.


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    Re: Do you heal your phantoms?

    Post by twilightwarwolf on Sat Feb 16, 2013 3:59 am

    i myself think on who i sumoned because by looks you can tell what they can do their health and mine and how many my estuses are with me as well as the level and how close we are to the boss. generally i tend to be selective so i give them one or estuses and then let them go off if they cant take care of themselves and if im low on estuses then they suffer or use a hum.


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    Re: Do you heal your phantoms?

    Post by Serious_Much on Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:15 am

    I always heal them, not that I usually need to as I summon people just so they can observe my awesomeness silly


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    Re: Do you heal your phantoms?

    Post by LK-8912 on Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:34 am

    Always. I rarely use all of 20 flasks, and even if estus is empty I still can heal myself with humanity.


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    Re: Do you heal your phantoms?

    Post by Mr. Tart on Sat Feb 16, 2013 4:49 pm

    When i summon, i summon for jolly co-op. I voted 1, however, i will not waste my Estus Flasks if they can't keep out of the danger.


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    Re: Do you heal your phantoms?

    Post by Animaaal on Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:46 pm

    Sentiel wrote:Well, if both of my phantoms have HP below 75% I use Estus, even if my HP is full.
    If only one of them has low HP I won't heal him, unless he's fighting, so he can't heal himself. If he screws up so much that he needs healing, but the rest doesn't he should heal himself.
    In Bossfight I heal them if they get below 50% as long as I have Estus.

    My thought exactly.

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    Re: Do you heal your phantoms?

    Post by reim0027 on Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:04 pm

    Mr. Tart wrote:When i summon, i summon for jolly co-op. I voted 1, however, i will not waste my Estus Flasks if they can't keep out of the danger.
    Completely disagree. It's called co-op for a reason. Sunbro helps you, so you help sunbro. Plus, I can't count how many times I've took damage because of the host.


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    Re: Do you heal your phantoms?

    Post by Mr. Tart on Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:04 pm

    reim0027 wrote:
    Mr. Tart wrote:When i summon, i summon for jolly co-op. I voted 1, however, i will not waste my Estus Flasks if they can't keep out of the danger.
    Completely disagree. It's called co-op for a reason. Sunbro helps you, so you help sunbro. Plus, I can't count how many times I've took damage because of the host.

    What i meant was, if the guy i summoned runs straight into a group of enemies, already knowing that they're there, losing 90% of his health, i see no point in trying to heal him if he keeps doing that. If he does that the first time around, fine, but if he keeps it up, then i'm getting suspicious. If i end up wasting every single Estus Flask, then how am i suppose to heal myself? Use my humanity?

    Of course i heal the phantom i summon. I think of them as a partner. But you gotta when they're trying to help you, and when they're not. If it was a noob, i'd still want the guy around because i wouldn't mind.

    Edit: As i've said when i summon myself, i will help someone as long as they show that they need me. By healing that is. There is a reason it says ''Sunbros for life'' in my sig you know. winking


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    Re: Do you heal your phantoms?

    Post by reim0027 on Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:43 pm

    Got it. Makes a lot more sense to me.


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