Why do Japanese players assume everyone in the Dark Souls world is Japanese?

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    Why do Japanese players assume everyone in the Dark Souls world is Japanese?

    Post by justwant2play on Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:42 pm

    You don't know how many times some Japanese player private messages me with something like 手伝ってくれますか? Don't they know by my username I'm not even Japanese? Has anyone else experienced this with Japanese PS3 players?


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    Re: Why do Japanese players assume everyone in the Dark Souls world is Japanese?

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:48 pm

    I'm sure they've been messaged in English as well, so it cuts both ways.

    If you get something like that there's not much you can do except ignore it or message them back in your main language that you do not understand Japanese. What else can you do?


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    Re: Why do Japanese players assume everyone in the Dark Souls world is Japanese?

    Post by Sloth9230 on Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:57 pm

    Same reason spanish speaking players do. It's pretty annoying, especially when they have english names and they're sending hatemail(it always is).


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    Re: Why do Japanese players assume everyone in the Dark Souls world is Japanese?

    Post by MosquitoPower on Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:16 pm

    Ive had almost the opposite experience.

    Like when we have a good/bad co-op run, I check their profile (using the PS3 "Players Met" utility) and if I don't see english as one of their listed languages I usually just send a smiley or sad face (depending on how it went).

    A lot of times I get a response back in perfect (or close enough to understand) English.

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    Re: Why do Japanese players assume everyone in the Dark Souls world is Japanese?

    Post by Kyōkai on Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:20 am

    I've had a similar experience where mostly people who don't have English as their main language and are from a different country call me a "canadanoob". :mask-child:


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    Re: Why do Japanese players assume everyone in the Dark Souls world is Japanese?

    Post by Forum Pirate on Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:25 am

    Also, most japanese people speak at least some english (its a mandatory class in many schools) so an english username in no way indicates that the person isn't japanese.


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    Re: Why do Japanese players assume everyone in the Dark Souls world is Japanese?

    Post by Serious_Much on Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:58 am

    A lot of Japanese players use romanised usernames, so I'm not surprised..

    Then again you still usually be able to tell if the username is foreign to you..


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    Re: Why do Japanese players assume everyone in the Dark Souls world is Japanese?

    Post by defacto on Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:11 am

    Forum Pirate wrote:Also, most japanese people speak at least some english (its a mandatory class in many schools) so an english username in no way indicates that the person isn't japanese.

    You would think so but no. Most Japanese speak English very poorly or not at all. I know people who went to Japan to teach English.

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    Re: Why do Japanese players assume everyone in the Dark Souls world is Japanese?

    Post by GrinTwist on Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:13 am

    Had something like that before. I was invaded at the Tomb and was looking around for the player and wasn't able to find them. They sent me a message in what looked like Japanese and I didn't know what it meant so I sent a message back saying I don't speak Japanese.

    Needless to say because of my slow typing I was sent off of one of the cliffs of the Tomb with a backstab.


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    Re: Why do Japanese players assume everyone in the Dark Souls world is Japanese?

    Post by Tolvo on Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:17 am

    Just use what emoticons you can muster, that's how I communicate with players who don't type the same language as me. Tends to work out pretty well.

    I win an invasion, they send me a message in japanese. I remember them being pretty nice and nearly beating me if not for a good swing, so I give them a smiley face. They send one back. I give them a face with a tongue out, they send me a cat. Then I invade them a few more times and trade blows. Everyone's happy.

    Except those people that send me angry faces, SCREW THEM!
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    Re: Why do Japanese players assume everyone in the Dark Souls world is Japanese?

    Post by Forum Pirate on Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:17 am

    Again, at least some. I never said alot or well. Just like many people in southern california speak at least some spanish. Broken and severely limited perhaps, but there anyways in both cases.

    To have an english username, as a japanese person, is not a stretch at all.

    Knowing this (as many surely do), an english username is not a valid reason to assume someone isn't japanese.

    Thats all I was saying.


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    Re: Why do Japanese players assume everyone in the Dark Souls world is Japanese?

    Post by Sloth9230 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:32 am

    Adding to what Forum said: Some mangas, and animes, tend to use other languages just because they sound cool. Bleach for instance uses Spanish and German every now and then. I've also heard a lot of j-pop and rock artists that use English. So even if not many people can actually speak or write it very well, they are still exposed to it quite frequently.

    Take this Fairy Tail Opening for example





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    Re: Why do Japanese players assume everyone in the Dark Souls world is Japanese?

    Post by Gazman0169 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:44 am

    In all the time I've been playing DkS I've only ever received one message that I couldn't read, because it was written in oriental script, and I regularly go up against fellow Gamers from the Far East.


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    Re: Why do Japanese players assume everyone in the Dark Souls world is Japanese?

    Post by Bioraptor on Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:05 pm

    I had a Spanish player message me once an so I used the translate app on my phone to read it.I also wrote him a reply back in Spanish using my App.He then writes back telling me my Spanish is bad in English silly


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    Re: Why do Japanese players assume everyone in the Dark Souls world is Japanese?

    Post by Sloth9230 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:12 pm

    Bioraptor wrote:I had a Spanish player message me once an so I used the translate app on my phone to read it.I also wrote him a reply back in Spanish using my App.He then writes back telling me my Spanish is bad in English silly

    Haha sometimes I think they do it just to annoy people. I'm a natural born spanish speaker so I can usually understand the messages, but I'll reply things like "Me No Nintendo" and I'll get messages back in english. Then I bust out the spanish silly


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    Re: Why do Japanese players assume everyone in the Dark Souls world is Japanese?

    Post by Bioraptor on Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:27 pm

    Sloth9230 wrote:
    Bioraptor wrote:I had a Spanish player message me once an so I used the translate app on my phone to read it.I also wrote him a reply back in Spanish using my App.He then writes back telling me my Spanish is bad in English silly

    Haha sometimes I think they do it just to annoy people. I'm a natural born spanish speaker so I can usually understand the messages, but I'll reply things like "Me No Nintendo" and I'll get messages back in english. Then I bust out the spanish silly
    Yeah I saw the funny side to it.I do not think he did it to be funny coz the message was not a hate text.But it was nice to talk in English b/c it took some time having messages back an forth with me using the Translater App....


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    Re: Why do Japanese players assume everyone in the Dark Souls world is Japanese?

    Post by PlasticandRage on Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:34 pm

    I've had conversations with Japanese players using only symbols before. Faces with different expressions and things. Even gave one I was co-oping with one of these (_)____)__________)))) when I was taking off to smoke.


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    Re: Why do Japanese players assume everyone in the Dark Souls world is Japanese?

    Post by deadagain on Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:04 pm

    ^Genius!


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    Re: Why do Japanese players assume everyone in the Dark Souls world is Japanese?

    Post by PlasticandRage on Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:06 pm

    I think that's a big part of the beauty of gestures and the carvings too. Some kinds of communication are universal


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    Re: Why do Japanese players assume everyone in the Dark Souls world is Japanese?

    Post by Jansports on Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:52 pm

    I appreciate the ridiculous complexity of Japanese emoticons. You can express nearly anything with them (probably because japan has been using them for longer than the rest of the world by a good number of years)

    My keyboard is currently unable to make the proper symbols but my favorite is a little face with 2 hands kinda doing the "bring it on" gesture. I use it a lot when I get invasions of invade Japanese players and I always get a good response I have to google translate
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    Re: Why do Japanese players assume everyone in the Dark Souls world is Japanese?

    Post by Jester's Tears on Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:57 pm

    Jansports wrote:I appreciate the ridiculous complexity of Japanese emoticons. You can express nearly anything with them (probably because japan has been using them for longer than the rest of the world by a good number of years)

    My keyboard is currently unable to make the proper symbols but my favorite is a little face with 2 hands kinda doing the "bring it on" gesture. I use it a lot when I get invasions of invade Japanese players and I always get a good response I have to google translate

    Google Translate...Sucks.


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    Re: Why do Japanese players assume everyone in the Dark Souls world is Japanese?

    Post by Jansports on Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:16 pm

    It translates better than I would
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    Re: Why do Japanese players assume everyone in the Dark Souls world is Japanese?

    Post by PlasticandRage on Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:17 pm

    ^ I used it to have a conversation with a guy in Spanish once. Worked well enough for us to understand each other.


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    Re: Why do Japanese players assume everyone in the Dark Souls world is Japanese?

    Post by Sentiel on Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:55 pm

    Whenever I want to write a message to somebody, I always first check their profile for languages they speak.

    If it says English (United Kingdom) I will write the message in any form I wish.

    If it says English (United States) I will write the message in simple English with short words.

    If it doesn't say English, or it says only Japanese I will write the message in Engrish, or tourist level simplicity of "Thank you", or nothing at all.

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    Re: Why do Japanese players assume everyone in the Dark Souls world is Japanese?

    Post by CappuccinoJak on Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:15 pm

    Sentiel wrote:Whenever I want to write a message to somebody, I always first check their profile for languages they speak.

    If it says English (United Kingdom) I will write the message in any form I wish.

    If it says English (United States) I will write the message in simple English with short words.

    If it doesn't say English, or it says only Japanese I will write the message in Engrish, or tourist level simplicity of "Thank you", or nothing at all.

    is there really that big a difference between UK english and USA english?

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