Scythe and the Gargoyle's Halberd. What's the difference?

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    Scythe and the Gargoyle's Halberd. What's the difference?

    Post by Automancer on Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:25 am

    I'm looking for a secondary weapon to play around with together with my Gargoyle's Tail Axe. I've never used to Gargoyle's Halberd before and it has a similar moveset to the halberd Scythe. What's the difference between them? Something special? Other than the 2 more stat requirement in Str that the Gargoyle needs, the only extra i know of is that it grants you added resistances.

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    Re: Scythe and the Gargoyle's Halberd. What's the difference?

    Post by Spurgun on Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:42 am

    The scythe scales more with dex, so it will be more powerful with a dex build while the G halberd needs a quality build to do max damage (excluding elementals). They do almost identical damage with a 40/40 build, but the G halberd is longer,
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    Re: Scythe and the Gargoyle's Halberd. What's the difference?

    Post by Ghadis_God on Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:20 pm

    The G. Hal also does regular physical damage, while the Scythe does slash damage. Also, what Spur said. If you have just dex, the Scythe will be stronger.


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    Re: Scythe and the Gargoyle's Halberd. What's the difference?

    Post by johnnyjwa on Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:57 pm

    The G.halberd also increases you bleed toxic and poison res by 25%.


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    Re: Scythe and the Gargoyle's Halberd. What's the difference?

    Post by Juutas on Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:10 pm

    Scythe is cooler, nuf said.


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    Re: Scythe and the Gargoyle's Halberd. What's the difference?

    Post by Spurgun on Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:11 pm

    Juutas wrote:Scythe is cooler, nuf said.

    I don't chose my equipment based on looks silly, so i prefer the G halberd.
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    Re: Scythe and the Gargoyle's Halberd. What's the difference?

    Post by RANT on Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:33 pm

    what everyone said, the gargoyle is better overall but it requires more points in both str and dex but if you have a quality build you should definately try it. if you have a pure dex build the scythe is the btter choice. i prefer the gargoyle halberd since reach is very important(specially in pvp) and it hits like a truck.


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    Re: Scythe and the Gargoyle's Halberd. What's the difference?

    Post by ublug on Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:00 pm

    Afafik the Gargoyle Halberd is also affected by the Leo Ring, even though it has no thrusting attacks.
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    Re: Scythe and the Gargoyle's Halberd. What's the difference?

    Post by Automancer on Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:43 am

    Is the difference in reach big between both weapons? So if i'm going for a quality build with the G. Halberd, what stats would be good? 16/40, 27/40 or 40,40? I'm trying to get this build to stay at SL100.


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    Re: Scythe and the Gargoyle's Halberd. What's the difference?

    Post by Yukon on Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:51 am

    I'm running a garg build right now like this:
    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=352830779826182317


    It gets some pretty good fights. Of course most of my equipment is personal choice, and not at all required. I like the colour of the metal in the target shield and it fits nicely with the Gargoyle metal colour. But if you are going 100 its easy to get 40/40 I would reccomend you do, so you ARE actually doing more damage with the Halberd than with the Scythe.

    My 65 garg runs at a 16/30 and he does just as well, but if you're going to have 100 points to place might as well max out damage.


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    Re: Scythe and the Gargoyle's Halberd. What's the difference?

    Post by Juutas on Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:00 am

    ublug wrote:Afafik the Gargoyle Halberd is also affected by the Leo Ring, even though it has no thrusting attacks.

    How is this possible? It has no thrusting animation moves...


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    Re: Scythe and the Gargoyle's Halberd. What's the difference?

    Post by Automancer on Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:26 am

    Yukon wrote:I'm running a garg build right now like this:
    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=352830779826182317


    It gets some pretty good fights. Of course most of my equipment is personal choice, and not at all required. I like the colour of the metal in the target shield and it fits nicely with the Gargoyle metal colour. But if you are going 100 its easy to get 40/40 I would reccomend you do, so you ARE actually doing more damage with the Halberd than with the Scythe.

    My 65 garg runs at a 16/30 and he does just as well, but if you're going to have 100 points to place might as well max out damage.

    Here's one i made. http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=406815480694679117
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    Re: Scythe and the Gargoyle's Halberd. What's the difference?

    Post by RANT on Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:30 pm

    if youre going for an sl 99 quality build go 27str(or 28 is you wanna use the mura) and 40 dex and two hand your weapon. those 13 points can be used for something for important, here's what you could do and save 13 points http://mmdks.com/gkc


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    Re: Scythe and the Gargoyle's Halberd. What's the difference?

    Post by Yukon on Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:57 pm

    Are you talking to me Rant? You gave back my build, his had the gargoyle tail axe as well.

    I never even thought to check the 2h stats, the stupid thing is I only ever use my G.halberd as a 2h weapon... So, excuse me while I just steal that a little... :o


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    Re: Scythe and the Gargoyle's Halberd. What's the difference?

    Post by RANT on Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:16 pm

    i was talking to the op, for some reason i cant see the links on my pc so i dont know what your build looks like lol. that buil is very similar to mine, except mine has 47 poise and no pyro which can be very useful against turtle.


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