Lordran's Deliverance

Forum Pirate wrote:And the playstation would allow you to hunt down the person and hit them with your controller. Game rules work within field rules. Field rules specifically allow my quitting by intentionally making the option permanently available, just as the field has fences to determine when a ball is out of play, intentionally allowing players to hit the ball into areas where it cannot be retrieved. Its not cheating to do so. The 6 bases analogy was for arguments sake, saying "thats reality" isn't actually a counter point.

The PS3 has much openness about it, just like the Baseball field. But, in the end, it's the game you are playing that determines the rules, not the field, nor the console. You're playing Dark Souls. There are rules that were created in order to make a game. It's inside the PS3, which then allows you to break the rules the game sets up, thus cheating.

Not cheating. Thats like saying its cheating to forfeit a wrestling match because I don't want to wrestle the guy. I'm simply walking away from the encounter. Would I prefer it if they still got the successful invasion reward for my dcing, yes I would, but I can't control that and I don't want to fight them so I ****ing quit. Its not cheating, and I'm not wasting resources by letting them kill me

Forum Pirate wrote:Not cheating. Thats like saying its cheating to forfeit a wrestling match because I don't want to wrestle the guy. I'm simply walking away from the encounter. Would I prefer it if they still got the successful invasion reward for my dcing, yes I would, but I can't control that and I don't want to fight them so I ****ing quit. Its not cheating.

Now you're coming up with stuff that's irrelevant. If you start the match, then leave, then you're cheating, and thus, disqualified. But that's not in the game. The developers aren't that mean. They won't delete your data on purpose because you DC'ed.

But it's still cheating. Going against the rules set up... is cheating. You cannot quit normally. They don't allow you to quit unless you go against the rules they set up. Done deal. It's black and white.

Xacktastic wrote:Still waiting for Dawnguard in the pc.....
And I added you to the main page Imperial! Good hunting!

Mmm, good. I'm waiting on Dawnguard as well. Damn Microsoft... ruining everything.

Thats not irrelevant. If you want to see irrelevant I would point out this entire discussion.

Its not cheating to refuse the encounter. If I modded my save, that would be cheating. Quitting is not cheating, its quitting.

The bb is (probably) cheating. The dragon glitchs are (almost certainly) cheating. Quitting is refusing to take part. Its a forfeit, voluntarily accepting defeat and ending the competition.

I'm done arguing. I'm straight not responding to any further posts on the matter. I don't know if you actually believe that or if you're goading me but I'm done responding to it either way.

I'm not trying to goad you. You seem to be kinda pissed, but it's hard to tell *shrug* but I was just conversing. Like I pointed out earlier. I was just responding. And I guess I'll just respond one more time. There are rules to keep you from quitting. and thus quitting is against the rules. But, like I said earlier, to each their own perspective. If you don't think going against the rules is cheating, then you don't think so. But I do. But we were talking about it. Idk why you think it was a bad thing.

Anyway, if you don't want to respond, then I guess we're done. See ya around the forums, I guess

I seem a little pissed because I am a little pissed. Still simmering on the other topic. Hence my choice to discontinue that conversation. Being angry isn't fun.


Why do people do the circle staffe poise bs thing? It never works on me, they just eat 600 damage. Then they dodge out and try again. I would have thought they'd learn.

Forum Pirate wrote:circle staffe poise bs thing

The thing where you sprint at them locked on, then you attack as soon as you start to see the camera move from the pivot, and that creates a bs?

The thing where you rush at them take the first swing end up behind them and BS.

dancash1808 wrote:The thing where you rush at them take the first swing end up behind them and BS.

Same thing, I guess. I do this when I invade because I face people who don't know how to PvP much, and i just want the freaking humanity to offer for the Followers. But in the Burg, I stay away from even TRYING to bs unless I get lucky and get them as they roll.

It's useless against experienced players, really.

it usually works on me once if you are using a light weapon. if its a heavy weapon I am usually more cautious.

No I do that all the time.

Where they just circle towards your weapon hand constantly waiting for you to swing so they can bs you.

I just two hand my g.halberd from max range. if they start to roll towards me, I unlock and do my strong attack and pivot. they usually get two hits to the face.

Oh, I thought that was called fishing...

There's different kind of fishing. Just like in real life

I fish for bs's all the time, I'm just not an idiot about it. I fight, bait, dodge and parry, with the intent of bsing people whenever the give me a chance.

The circling thing is fishing too, but its fishing like an idiot. Thats what I don't understand. It didn't work the first 3 times, why try it again?

Because, as I said to Rynn earlier, how could BSing possibly fail to win the fight? Obviously the first three fails were lag working against them and not you actually having a brain.

Wow this thread wen't on quite a journey....

I'm okay at countering BSs when the lag isn't too bad but if it's more than the normal amount I'm no good at it. I can usually still avoid BSs but I can't safely punish them. By the way the lag I 'm talking about is when they teleport a significant distance to land a BS. I know you always have to expect them to be not where they seem but sometimes it's really bad. I really am sick of dealing with ninja flipping, high poise BS fishers though. It gets boring as they either suck and are stupid fishers which I kill or are smart fishers who often kill me. The former is really dull as they just try and start up that stupid circle dance. But now I have kind of ranted... whoops.

I take 1 step back and towards them, r1. It works against the lock and pivot bs's as well, but its a bit tougher to do. I also use ugs's so pivoting as I swing is an excellent bs defence.

I use hammers on my knight, straight sword and spear on my POLG, and a thrusting sword on my Deliverance DM. It kills me when gankers proceed to complain about me using WoG to counter their team BS fishing or if I BS them in return for their efforts. Gankers always seem to whine more than others when they lose. Regardless perhaps I will try your tactic Forum.

This thread got a little out of control you two. I am fine with discussion, but that was more flaming than anything.

However, in my opinion:
- There is nothing wrong with WoG or any of the other "cheap" tactics. They are called cheap for a single reason: because people get raped by them daily, and decide to call them cheap so they don't have to feel bad. The same goes for the DWGR, it truly is a great ring, but people bang on it because it is "overpowered" while in reality they are just being petty. So many people do the fast or medium roll simply to be all hipster and different. I can't handle **** like that.
- Also, obviously, I love cussing, so there is no need to call for no profanity on this thread, Joe.
- Lastly, let's try and take 5 page flames to the PM's next time. Thanks!

I don't really want to argue about the validity of my opinions, either. So please, don't go trying to change my mind or help me see something I don;t understand.
Joe is right when he says the game is about having fun.
So, limiting my fun to the accepted tactics isn't something I am ever going to do, or expect people to do.

Forum Pirate wrote:I take 1 step back and towards them, r1. It works against the lock and pivot bs's as well, but its a bit tougher to do. I also use ugs's so pivoting as I swing is an excellent bs defence.

I do exactly this.
Have you ever done the run and turn smash? Where you sprint one direction, then R2 your UGS and flick backwards into who is chasing you. That works for me a lot. Personally, I think the UGS are much more flexible than people generally believe.

Bleh. I was going to post a big long thing, but it came down to "should I post this?" and the answer to that question is "no. No I should not."

But I will say this.
Under rule #1

This also extends to abusive and offensive language, and circumventing the language filter.

Heavy language is unneeded. Period.

Heavy language is a right. Isn't this America?

Right to abortion: check.
Right to execute people: check.
Right to put people in jail: check.
Right to own a gun: check.
Right to use our entire vocabulary: DENIED.

Weird.

Moved to PM.