Wrath of The God's Event

TWoP takes a fairly long time to cast..

Whilst kneeling on the ground is when I punish.

And is hardly effective anymore given its small duration. I can out run people for ten seconds and even when they catch me in it I parry the hell out of them.

ViralEnsign_ wrote:And is hardly effective anymore given its small duration. I can out run people for ten seconds and even when they catch me in it I parry the hell out of them.

You can't parry WotG's.

Thats the point. You are becoming a Griefer by doing this.

They don't just target the lower levels. You can grief anywhere. See Jrfalconpunch's Griefing videos from Anor Londo.

God I'd hate to go upo against him.

Blade of The Sun wrote:

ViralEnsign_ wrote:And is hardly effective anymore given its small duration. I can out run people for ten seconds and even when they catch me in it I parry the hell out of them.

You can't parry WotG's.

You can do a quick block and unleash hell upon the loser trying to gank you with WoTG's and TWoP though.

JLRFalconPunched pisses me off so much...

And you can parry wog, it does the partial parry thing. You can't riposte wog.

Why did I get a negative point for stating a fact?

The following reply contains a lot of hate
I probably will get banned or lot of negative rep for it
but I say what I mean so it doesn't matter

judgement? LMFAO
why don't you just get better at the game and stop whingeing
BS is an essential mechanic in the game and I see no problem about it
without it, Dark Soul will just become a R1 spamming and roll spamming game
when people say lag stab, 8/10 of those are just part of the lag compensation system,which works like scissors, papper and rock

when someone are circling your, you get backstab if you do nothing or just roll away

if you do the counter backstab, then it becomes a battle between who BS the other first
Usually,
the guy who do the counter have the advantage cause the opponent is
circling an invisble object which result in turning their back to you

If you don't do the counter BS, you can still spam R1 of a fast, wide swing weapon
it will totally avoid lock engage backstab and chop up your opponent
even if they get score the BS, it will most likely do no damage because of the lag compensation

There are also BS fisher who just roll arround until they get to your back
The counter to this is to BS them
when someone roll into you, you can easily circle them and BS them
when someone roll sideway, or backward
you can BS them if you roll in the same direction before they them

Roll BS works as a punish to people spamming R1 of various slow recovering weapon, or magic
unlike lock BS, roll BS takes some practice before it can be done effectively
by
theory, there is nothing in the game that can't be punish by roll BS,
but the window is very narrow agaisnt fast swinging weapon, and you run
the risk of being chop up when you fail

Chain BS, wake up Attack, Delay BS are all choices for attacking a wake up opponent
there
are different counter to each of them, and guessing are what makes the
game fun (Well... that is if you know what is happening)
I spent 600+ hours in Dark Soul, and I have 7 character, 6 of them dedicated to PVP
and
with all the playtime, the total amount of time where I get chain BS by
someone is arround 5-7.... and most of them occured in the forest while
being gang up while waking up

I absolutely love Dark Soul,
In my opinion, everything is near perfect balance
The only time that I complain is when I dodged a crystal spear and it deal damage to me 5 seconds later on
I just wish everyone spend sometime to understand the mechanic of the game before opening some hate post

The build by the way.... will just fail massively in front of a BS fisher
People who spam WOTG is what we love to see
its like giving us a free BS
TWOP by the way only last for 10 seconds, and you have to cast it while being far away from the oponent
you migh as well just BS the other guy when he bow
it would work a lot better if trolling is what you want to do
if you just want a easy count to BS, just two hand a fachion and just pressing R1
thats it

And its that kind of unflinching, if I can call it, elitism that can potentially turn a nice pvp scene into one where its a free for all.

I loved the Demon's pvp scene. Only a few people farmed invaders and everyone understood a basic code. That was you fight and you fight well. I won't cheese you with lame *** gimicks if you wont do it to me.

In DkS with the many newer more, how do I put this without sounding like an ***? More serious/ provethemselves gamers, we now have these horrble things.

Lol R1 spam isn't a problem though is it? Parries? Maybe a roll away. Stunlock is the only thing that makes R1 spamming a pain. But tbf it would such to be hit by a sword three times he size of you.

Edit: Can i make it clear that I'm not criticising you. I just think that while some people do complain about the BS thing quite a bit. It isn't without good reason. Also people do take the whole just get better thing a bit too far as well.

Also Im trying to disengage myself from this thread as I feel it could just become as rep war.

Blade of The Sun wrote:Why did I get a negative point for stating a fact?

Fixed.

Blade of The Sun wrote:Why did I get a negative point for stating a fact?

It's not a fact, you can parry it. I could even parry the Dragon roar buff, which stuns you.

Still does it require someone to negative rep him?

Nope, maybe someone take an opportunity and -1 for his idea of the event.

mugenis4real wrote:

Blade of The Sun wrote:Why did I get a negative point for stating a fact?

Fixed.

Thank you, I felt cheated.

@Ensign

I have to respectfully disagree with you about Demon's Souls although I played much later after release. When I joined I would constantly be cheesed, especially in World 2, with that firestorm spell and DBS or dual katanas. That was back when I was just trying to get to the next stage. I think Demon's Souls, as fun as it was, was the only game I ever deeply desired to glitch. That was so I would stop being griefed by other players. One guy even felt bad for me to the point where he duped a bunch of weapons to me. Looking back it was funny because me and a friend always co-oped and I could hear him across the house yell out of excitement because he felt justified by cheesing others the way we were cheesed. We still considered it all a part of the game and we loved it, but it was frustratingly annoying at times.

Bs/Lsers seem to get an advantage in DkS while in DmS if it lagged you didn't get the damage, and only the animation. If they would fix that, I would see no reason to have this event.

Fair enough there. I'm just not sure that it was a great boost for the Souls franchise when it became more well known.

I figure most people on the forums, who actively contribute and do admin style stuff, played Demons but I could be wrong, probably am. They all have the notion of honour, not everyone does, shame really.

Most Demon's Soulers did. I never once was BSed of killed while gesturing.

WyrmHero wrote:

Blade of The Sun wrote:Why did I get a negative point for stating a fact?

It's not a fact, you can parry it. I could even parry the Dragon roar buff, which stuns you.

I know how to fix this...

Use your faith builds. If it's WoG's so be it, and if you don't want to use this strategy then don't. I will edit the OP to reflect the changes based on popular vote.

raphael1019 wrote:The following reply contains a lot of hate
I probably will get banned or lot of negative rep for it
but I say what I mean so it doesn't matter

judgement? LMFAO
why don't you just get better at the game and stop whingeing
BS is an essential mechanic in the game and I see no problem about it
without it, Dark Soul will just become a R1 spamming and roll spamming game
when people say lag stab, 8/10 of those are just part of the lag compensation system,which works like scissors, papper and rock

when someone are circling your, you get backstab if you do nothing or just roll away

if you do the counter backstab, then it becomes a battle between who BS the other first
Usually,
the guy who do the counter have the advantage cause the opponent is
circling an invisble object which result in turning their back to you

If you don't do the counter BS, you can still spam R1 of a fast, wide swing weapon
it will totally avoid lock engage backstab and chop up your opponent
even if they get score the BS, it will most likely do no damage because of the lag compensation

There are also BS fisher who just roll arround until they get to your back
The counter to this is to BS them
when someone roll into you, you can easily circle them and BS them
when someone roll sideway, or backward
you can BS them if you roll in the same direction before they them

Roll BS works as a punish to people spamming R1 of various slow recovering weapon, or magic
unlike lock BS, roll BS takes some practice before it can be done effectively
by
theory, there is nothing in the game that can't be punish by roll BS,
but the window is very narrow agaisnt fast swinging weapon, and you run
the risk of being chop up when you fail

Chain BS, wake up Attack, Delay BS are all choices for attacking a wake up opponent
there
are different counter to each of them, and guessing are what makes the
game fun (Well... that is if you know what is happening)
I spent 600+ hours in Dark Soul, and I have 7 character, 6 of them dedicated to PVP
and
with all the playtime, the total amount of time where I get chain BS by
someone is arround 5-7.... and most of them occured in the forest while
being gang up while waking up

I absolutely love Dark Soul,
In my opinion, everything is near perfect balance
The only time that I complain is when I dodged a crystal spear and it deal damage to me 5 seconds later on
I just wish everyone spend sometime to understand the mechanic of the game before opening some hate post

The build by the way.... will just fail massively in front of a BS fisher
People who spam WOTG is what we love to see
its like giving us a free BS
TWOP by the way only last for 10 seconds, and you have to cast it while being far away from the oponent
you migh as well just BS the other guy when he bow
it would work a lot better if trolling is what you want to do
if you just want a easy count to BS, just two hand a fachion and just pressing R1
thats it

You are very wrong, you should duel one time without BS (like we do on FC) and see the epic battles we fight in there. I encountered a BS fisher today and I actually counter BS him 3 times. I was obviously nervous and thought wow I'm getting good at this, but with time it gets boring fast, backstab, after backstab, after backstab. Dark Souls has more to offer than just backstabs, and I really love its combat mechanics.

Blade of The Sun wrote:

WyrmHero wrote:

Blade of The Sun wrote:Why did I get a negative point for stating a fact?

It's not a fact, you can parry it. I could even parry the Dragon roar buff, which stuns you.

I know how to fix this...

Use your faith builds. If it's WoG's so be it, and if you don't want to use this strategy then don't. I will edit the OP to reflect the changes based on popular vote.

I like your original idea though. Not many people know how to parry, and BS fishers....lol they just fish.

ViralEnsign_ wrote:

Lol R1 spam isn't a problem though is it? Parries? Maybe a roll away. Stunlock is the only thing that makes R1 spamming a pain. But tbf it would such to be hit by a sword three times he size of you.

No Man
I never said R1 spamming is a problem
in fact
I don't think any strategy is a problem
I understand how people get sad and feel helpless when they get BS if they don't know what it is
but
you know how much hate we get when we are just using effective strategy
or mechanism of the game or just picking up random weapon that we
happens to like?
its not just BS
WOTG, enchant, hornet ring,flip ring, mask,giant, havel, black knigh what so ever, zeihander and the list goes on
New players are part of the game
and people who use the above are part of the game as well
why do we deserve so much hate both in the game and in a forum?
Don't
you think people should try to learn better other than expression all
their negative emotion to us, which in the end will solve nothing

I don't feel any fire between you and me, so everything is fine man
and I don't care about rep
you get neg rep if you say something others don't want to hear
but in the end of the day, if thats what you mean, than so be in

Also I have to point out that here on the forums 600+ hours is nothing. Nor is the number of characters you have got. ALL my characters are PVP based. And I've made more than ten of them. That doesn't make me anymore knowledgable than anyone else here.

The strategy and mechanism is faulty and often favors lag though. Fix this and I think you fix most of the griefing going on in the game.

I try not to counter bs fish either, it makes me lazy.

WyrmHero wrote:

You are very wrong, you should duel one time without BS (like we do on FC) and see the epic battles we fight in there. I encountered a BS fisher today and I actually counter BS him 3 times. I was obviously nervous and thought wow I'm getting good at this, but with time it gets boring fast, backstab, after backstab, after backstab. Dark Souls has more to offer than just backstabs, and I really love its combat mechanics.

Well Man
I guess differnt people like differnt thing
I have a SL120 Darkmoon, which use I use a enchant BSS
I don't go for a BS cause it does near identical damage to a normal slash...
and when fighting in the burg
all I need to do is press R1, L1 (which is WOTG) in random manner
and I get the win
I also use that build to run a DSS
and all I do is control the distance, poke and backroll
and I get the win...

Wheres the fun in that? I can achieve the same results but with a lot more rolling and r1/l1 ing (as i use Dual Kats) or even throw down some nice throwing knives or summat.

I suppose its what you play to achieve though. I do it to fight others and have fun, maybe throw some rp into that.

I assume you play to win?

ViralEnsign_ wrote:Also I have to point out that here on the forums 600+ hours is nothing. Nor is the number of characters you have got. ALL my characters are PVP based. And I've made more than ten of them. That doesn't make me anymore knowledgable than anyone else here.

I am not trying to appeal myself
I am just using it as a stat to point out chain BS is really not that OP