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    Re: Wrath of The God's Event

    Post by Tolvo on Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:59 am

    Guys, please try to keep your remarks away from personal jabs at others. I know the mods don't like to have to lock down topics for flaming.
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    Re: Wrath of The God's Event

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:00 am

    WyrmHero wrote:
    raphael1019 wrote:The following reply contains a lot of hate
    I probably will get banned or lot of negative rep for it
    but I say what I mean so it doesn't matter

    judgement? LMFAO
    why don't you just get better at the game and stop whingeing
    BS is an essential mechanic in the game and I see no problem about it
    without it, Dark Soul will just become a R1 spamming and roll spamming game
    when people say lag stab, 8/10 of those are just part of the lag compensation system,which works like scissors, papper and rock

    when someone are circling your, you get backstab if you do nothing or just roll away

    if you do the counter backstab, then it becomes a battle between who BS the other first
    Usually,
    the guy who do the counter have the advantage cause the opponent is
    circling an invisble object which result in turning their back to you

    If you don't do the counter BS, you can still spam R1 of a fast, wide swing weapon
    it will totally avoid lock engage backstab and chop up your opponent
    even if they get score the BS, it will most likely do no damage because of the lag compensation

    There are also BS fisher who just roll arround until they get to your back
    The counter to this is to BS them
    when someone roll into you, you can easily circle them and BS them
    when someone roll sideway, or backward
    you can BS them if you roll in the same direction before they them

    Roll BS works as a punish to people spamming R1 of various slow recovering weapon, or magic
    unlike lock BS, roll BS takes some practice before it can be done effectively
    by
    theory, there is nothing in the game that can't be punish by roll BS,
    but the window is very narrow agaisnt fast swinging weapon, and you run
    the risk of being chop up when you fail

    Chain BS, wake up Attack, Delay BS are all choices for attacking a wake up opponent
    there
    are different counter to each of them, and guessing are what makes the
    game fun (Well... that is if you know what is happening)
    I spent 600+ hours in Dark Soul, and I have 7 character, 6 of them dedicated to PVP
    and
    with all the playtime, the total amount of time where I get chain BS by
    someone is arround 5-7.... and most of them occured in the forest while
    being gang up while waking up

    I absolutely love Dark Soul,
    In my opinion, everything is near perfect balance
    The only time that I complain is when I dodged a crystal spear and it deal damage to me 5 seconds later on
    I just wish everyone spend sometime to understand the mechanic of the game before opening some hate post

    The build by the way.... will just fail massively in front of a BS fisher
    People who spam WOTG is what we love to see
    its like giving us a free BS
    TWOP by the way only last for 10 seconds, and you have to cast it while being far away from the oponent
    you migh as well just BS the other guy when he bow
    it would work a lot better if trolling is what you want to do
    if you just want a easy count to BS, just two hand a fachion and just pressing R1
    thats it

    You are very wrong, you should duel one time without BS (like we do on FC) and see the epic battles we fight in there. I encountered a BS fisher today and I actually counter BS him 3 times. I was obviously nervous and thought wow I'm getting good at this, but with time it gets boring fast, backstab, after backstab, after backstab. Dark Souls has more to offer than just backstabs, and I really love its combat mechanics.

    Sorry to double post but this I like. FC is one of the only places I enjoy real PvP action.


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    Re: Wrath of The God's Event

    Post by raphael1019 on Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:01 am

    ViralEnsign_ wrote:Wheres the fun in that? I can achieve the same results but with a lot more rolling and r1/l1 ing (as i use Dual Kats) or even throw down some nice throwing knives or summat.

    I suppose its what you play to achieve though. I do it to fight others and have fun, maybe throw some rp into that.

    I assume you play to win?

    exactly what I am trying to say
    without BS, spamming R1 and L1and roll becomes boring
    and I think you misunderstand my post
    I am trying to say that Darkmoon build is very boring
    and the most fun build in dueling that I find is a bucklet and estoc build with nothing else
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    Re: Wrath of The God's Event

    Post by mugenis4real on Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:02 am

    Tolvo wrote:Guys, please try to keep your remarks away from personal jabs at others. I know the mods don't like to have to lock down topics for flaming.

    True that, we don't want the cops to show up.
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    Re: Wrath of The God's Event

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:07 am

    Sorry not intentionally phrased that way I forget that you can't hear the tone I used in my head. Lol how stupid is that.

    No I meant to simply point out, maybe my terminology was wrong, many players on this site have similar pvp records. So comments like this were well thought out before posting.

    Sorry man. Conflicting view points eh?


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    Re: Wrath of The God's Event

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:16 am

    Raphael I guess you don't get much competitive PvP outside of backstabbing. I recommend you spend one night in Fight Club, you'll find epic battles there, not just R1 spamming. Try it.


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    Re: Wrath of The God's Event

    Post by Tolvo on Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:18 am

    Oh he'll find R1 spamming, if he fights me. It's the only way I can fight anyone in FC anymore haha, you guys are getting too good.
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    Re: Wrath of The God's Event

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:20 am

    Ah but you forget you beat me so I'm officially the worst person there. Must have my revenge!

    Although I do tend to do better against Dj, Riem, and Forum (though he still kicks my *** with that DMB of his)


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    [11:10:04 p.m.] Kwith: Woah.
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    [11:10:14 p.m.] Robb "the Ensign_": FATALITY!
    [11:10:16 p.m.] ◥▶_◀◤ TehInfamousAmos: AHAHAHAHAHAHA
    [11:10:19 p.m.] Tolvo: You want to see sexual tension.
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    Re: Wrath of The God's Event

    Post by Tolvo on Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:21 am

    I beat you? It was probably a fluke thing, every now and then I fight someone for the first time and beat them, then they grow to think I'm some amazing duellist when really I just lucked out with some dead angles. If you fought me again you'd probably rofl stomp me.
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    Re: Wrath of The God's Event

    Post by mugenis4real on Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:24 am

    WyrmHero wrote:Raphael I guess you don't get much competitive PvP outside of backstabbing. I recommend you spend one night in Fight Club, you'll find epic battles there, not just R1 spamming. Try it.

    Then the question is raised, who decides what competitive PvP is? He's playing the game as it was intended to be played. We saw the chaos and set down rules and leaders, fair and unfair, just and unjust. This is normal considering what we were given and the very nature of human beings and the whole reason why societies exists. Food for thought.

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    Re: Wrath of The God's Event

    Post by raphael1019 on Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:24 am

    I am just saying the game doesn't need any fix
    I duel in the burg
    we bow
    we let each other eat grass and enchant
    we don't heal
    and everything else doesn't matter
    people BS, Roll BS, chain BS
    even if you cast TWOP, I won't complain, I just back pedal to a wall
    I run various build in there,
    some rely on BS , some doesn't
    and no......I don't get bored
    once in a while, you will get gang up by farmers
    well...you try your best, and if you die...you die and put down the sign again
    whats the big deal?

    I don't see myself joining the fightclub
    When I feel like dueling.. I just put down the sign in the burg
    I get the epic fight in the burg too, whats the different?
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    Re: Wrath of The God's Event

    Post by Tolvo on Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:25 am

    I wouldn't use the word competitive, I'd say FC is friendly PvP. I've yet to see PvP in this game that is not competitive, outside of me invading people with Skull lanterns and following them area at low levels just to scare them.
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    Re: Wrath of The God's Event

    Post by mugenis4real on Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:29 am

    Tolvo wrote:I wouldn't use the word competitive, I'd say FC is friendly PvP. I've yet to see PvP in this game that is not competitive, outside of me invading people with Skull lanterns and following them area at low levels just to scare them.

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    Re: Wrath of The God's Event

    Post by cloudyeki on Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:32 am

    Just follow him into every thread and praise him like you'd praise the sun


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    Re: Wrath of The God's Event

    Post by Tolvo on Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:33 am

    Why does everyone keep saying that?

    Also I do apologize for getting a bit off topic, while it is good to talk over an event and make suggestions I think Blade has taken everything into consideration and is going to set up the event in a way he wants it to go. We've talked in circles and circles, but it's just getting to the point of derailing the event thread. If you want to join in post and talk about it and what you might be planning, but let's leave this discussion about Honour and Dishonour alone. I'd hate to see this thread locked down as I mentioned earlier, and this subject is a bit sore for some.
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    Re: Wrath of The God's Event

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:37 am

    Yeah I like to try to attempt fair PvP at low levels but with all the Darkwraiths, and I used to love these guys because I farmed off them as a DM, it becomes a chore just dealing with them every time they inavde while I'm Gravelording.

    True its what they do, and lets be honest a Gravelord is more of a troll than a DW by nature, but even so they tend to be tools while doing it.

    Argh lets get off this its just my Gravelord nature coming through here.

    I totally accept all play styles whether I approve of them or not. Its just tiring being trolled by the same group of people over and over again because of one aspect of the game.

    Ah I'm leaving this thread. Finding it difficult to express what I think as all the words on the screen look fuzzy. Mmmmm tired goodness.


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    Re: Wrath of The God's Event

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:38 am

    @raphael ok thanks for the clarification, I just thought you didn't get good fights in the burg. Fair enough.


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    Re: Wrath of The God's Event

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:40 am

    Oh you get good fights there alright!


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    Re: Wrath of The God's Event

    Post by CrackSouls on Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:46 am

    Looking at this thread, I'd like to invite any one who has not been to Fight Club. (That includes you, Raphael)
    Not because I think it's "better" than anything you do, but because it's a new thing to try and it's fun and part of the community.

    I am not as experienced as most of the FCers who commented on this thread. So take it from me that even if you lose, there is no over-competitive feel to it. As long as I improved or had fun it is (imo) the best time in DkS.

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    That being said, if I can get my Faith character to SL110 by the time this event kickstarts I will be joining you! No TwoP for me though.


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    Re: Wrath of The God's Event

    Post by mugenis4real on Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:48 am

    cloudyeki wrote:Just follow him into every thread and praise him like you'd praise the sun

    Thanks for the protip, now my life has meaning.

    On topic. What Tolvo said +1
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    Re: Wrath of The God's Event

    Post by cloudyeki on Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:54 am

    No prob mugen

    Dragging this back to the original topic.

    Interesting event idea. A lil bit rough though, and having everyone using the same 2 miracles will mean the targets will catch on quick. Stay with the crown/velka, but let everyone use the weapons they prefer so they can properly punish. With each victory they should gesture to get the point across, and if there's hate mail have a general message to send back.

    Most of this is from what I can remember from the Forest of the Damned event from a bit back.


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    Re: Wrath of The God's Event

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:57 am

    I think the event would be fine like that. But if we were just using the same two miracles how re we different from those we want to punish.


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    [11:10:04 p.m.] Kwith: Woah.
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    [11:10:14 p.m.] Robb "the Ensign_": FATALITY!
    [11:10:16 p.m.] ◥▶_◀◤ TehInfamousAmos: AHAHAHAHAHAHA
    [11:10:19 p.m.] Tolvo: You want to see sexual tension.
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    Re: Wrath of The God's Event

    Post by Blade of The Sun on Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:44 pm

    cloudyeki wrote:No prob mugen

    Dragging this back to the original topic.

    Interesting event idea. A lil bit rough though, and having everyone using the same 2 miracles will mean the targets will catch on quick. Stay with the crown/velka, but let everyone use the weapons they prefer so they can properly punish. With each victory they should gesture to get the point across, and if there's hate mail have a general message to send back.

    Most of this is from what I can remember from the Forest of the Damned event from a bit back.

    I agree... I will be updating the OP to reflect a few of these changes. Thank you for the input! When I get the chance this post will get a +1 from me.


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