covenant question

can i join the forest covenant, kill the guy for DWGR, then imediatly join the chaos covenant? or do i need to absolve my sins in between? cause i read theres no betrayal punishments for forest covenant.



also, if i kill the leader of a covenant, and absolve my sins, is it possible to join back? ( mainly talking about chaos covenant since i want that firekeeper soul )

you cannot rejoin a covenant if the leader is dead (until new game+). if you want to abandon a covenant without aquring sin, you would use the same npc that abolves sin in the bell tower. otherwise you go on the darkmoon's hit list. hope that helps.

As far as I am aware you won't go on the darkmoons hitlist, unless you kill gywndolin, covenant sin just prevents you from rejoining. My advice, skip killing the firekeepers, the the difference between +4 and +7 isn't really that big, and if you don't have much VIT in the first place +4 will do just fine. Also remember you can jump into NG+ and you can pick up 3 of them fairly easy.

if i used the 4 firekeeper souls from pickups, in NG+ can i use the same ones again to get to +7 so that i never have to kill a firekeeper?

Whknight wrote:As far as I am aware you won't go on the darkmoons hitlist, unless you kill gywndolin, covenant sin just prevents you from rejoining. My advice, skip killing the firekeepers, the the difference between +4 and +7 isn't really that big, and if you don't have much VIT in the first place +4 will do just fine. Also remember you can jump into NG+ and you can pick up 3 of them fairly easy.

actually the wiki says otherwise: "Players can use the Blue Eye Orb to invade players who have sinned by betraying covenants". is that incorrect?

I jumped between several covenants at a lower level and never got invaded by a darkmoon, maybe I'm just lucky but I've never noticed it. All I really know is if you betray the Darkmoons themselves you are effectivly marked for invasion by them.

Yes you can reuse the pickups to get +7, after that they become fairly useless unless you want them for the +5 humanity.

Whknight wrote:I jumped between several covenants at a lower level and never got invaded by a darkmoon, maybe I'm just lucky but I've never noticed it. All I really know is if you betray the Darkmoons themselves you are effectivly marked for invasion by them.

Yes you can reuse the pickups to get +7, after that they become fairly useless unless you want them for the +5 humanity.

maybe there is some type of sin hierarchy within the covenant? i haven't been invaded by DM's nearly as much as when i was indicted.

I haven't killed gwyndolin in NG+ but i did make anor londo dark and now get constant darkmoon invasions. I have sinned though....

Making Anor Londo dark is something different, though I wouldn't be surprised if you did get sin. It's basicly the same principles as the forest hunters, right down to the ring.