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    What do you think of my Spell sword build!?

    Post by Debido on Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:08 am

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=138601630174888589

    So what do you guys think? I would like some feed back and constructive criticism if no one minds happy


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    Re: What do you think of my Spell sword build!?

    Post by Automancer on Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:12 am

    Holy ****. Uh, okay you have a lot of things to be fixed with your build.

    First off, lower your INT to 45. No point going to 50 unless you're dead certain you want the White Dragon Breath. Get the Logan's Catalyst, it scales better at 41 Int and above. Why do you have 3 different pyromancies of the same thing? Either get 2 Fire Tempest or 1 Chaos Storm. Since you're mid-rolling, lower your Endurance. Add the rest to Vit.

    Aim for 54 poise or 61 poise. 61 is to avoid all Dex spam. I would suggest using the Gywndolin's Crown so you can avoid that negative trait of the Dusk Crown. But that's your choice. At 99 soft humanity, you get like 383 slash defense, which is pretty good.

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=435535023509466295


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    Re: What do you think of my Spell sword build!?

    Post by Pallash on Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:26 am

    I guess ur going to use most of the time sorcerys. If so you dont really need armor or poise, in shott u habe to know how to play as mage http://mmdks.com/11ig edit: forgot to add 1 in dec but u get the idea i guess


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    Re: What do you think of my Spell sword build!?

    Post by Automancer on Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:28 am

    ^ You need 10 Dex for the MLGS. -_-

    I'd try not to change his setup too much since we don't know what he wants.
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    Re: What do you think of my Spell sword build!?

    Post by Pallash on Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:30 am

    I was editing my post no reason to be ***


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    Re: What do you think of my Spell sword build!?

    Post by Automancer on Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:30 am

    I wasn't. -_-


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    Re: What do you think of my Spell sword build!?

    Post by Cachorrao on Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:34 am

    Hey, i just done a NG+ with something near it.

    Look, i new in Dark Souls, so don't get it so serious, but u can put you INT in 40-45 and its cool, i put in my Spell Warrior, 50 INT but believe Dragon White Breath don't worth it.
    I see u have so many spells mixed huh? seems u gonna keep a distance fight ye? So why 40 VIT? my Spell Warrior is a kind of (in pve) if u get close u die hahhaa, so believe is too much, when i done with 50 int (fail) and start put so many points in VIT (25) i was like "damn just broke it all"...

    Grass Crest Shield have 95 phys def right? 5% sometimes u will felt this, but thats okay if u like it, but if u use Crest Shield 100% PHYS and 80% MAG, with Green Weeds, forgot name right now sorry, i guess its the same.

    You set looks good, i use it too, but bk armor and gloves.
    But Paladin Set is awesome specially in Human Form with Crow of Dusk


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    Re: What do you think of my Spell sword build!?

    Post by Debido on Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:36 am

    I'm dead set on 50 for the white dragon's breath, I like the spell and I find it fun to watch someone roll towards me or strait back and still get hit by it and take the 800 damage I've done to a few people. I will swap to logan's catalyst, and I will use dark bead instead of 2 more pyro storm attacks.

    @Auto, Idk where to get that crown, is it from the optional boss fight in anor londo? the one where u smack nice tits and turn off the lights?


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    Re: What do you think of my Spell sword build!?

    Post by Automancer on Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:39 am

    ^ 40 Vit is standard most of the time. People go for 41~45 for better scaling with the Logan's Catalyst.
    25 Vit is very low. You would want to have at least 1500hp to survive at least one BS. Grass Crest is good for stamina regeneration. 95% guard reduction is considered very good. The chip damage isn't really noticeable. Shields depend on stability not reduction, for the most part.

    @debido You'll be missing with WDB most of the time. Trust me on that. No one would stay still for you to cast it. And it's slow. Gwyndolin's Crown is gained after killing Gwyndolin at the bottom of the rotating staircase. Then you can buy his armor set from Domnhall in Firelink Shrine.
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    Re: What do you think of my Spell sword build!?

    Post by Debido on Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:47 am

    Automancer wrote:
    @debido You'll be missing with WDB most of the time. Trust me on that. No one would stay still for you to cast it. And it's slow. Gwyndolin's Crown is gained after killing Gwyndolin at the bottom of the rotating staircase. Then you can buy his armor set from Domnhall in Firelink Shrine.

    But He's not at the bottom of the spiral stair case for me o.O

    Do I need the abyss walker DLC for that cause I havn't bought it yet, I a waiting till this weekend to get that.


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    Re: What do you think of my Spell sword build!?

    Post by Automancer on Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:50 am

    No no, i meant rotate it to the bottom. There's a room with statues in it. You need to either kill Big Boobs to reveal the hidden path or equip the Darkmoon Seance Ring.


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    Re: What do you think of my Spell sword build!?

    Post by Debido on Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:56 am

    Automancer wrote:No no, i meant rotate it to the bottom. There's a room with statues in it. You need to either kill Big Boobs to reveal the hidden path or equip the Darkmoon Seance Ring.

    cool thanks I'll do that here in a little bit, I need to find someone who has ornsteins gauntlets though sad


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    Re: What do you think of my Spell sword build!?

    Post by Automancer on Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:57 am

    Go to the Trading forums. Someone should be able to help you out with that.


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    Re: What do you think of my Spell sword build!?

    Post by Debido on Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:59 am

    Cool I'm going to leave this topic open for some other replies to filter through but so far you have my thanks happy, what do u recommend since I am keeping the 50 int?


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    Re: What do you think of my Spell sword build!?

    Post by Automancer on Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:02 am

    What do you mean by recommend? What is it you're looking for?


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    Re: What do you think of my Spell sword build!?

    Post by Debido on Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:05 am

    the ability to cast from afar if needed while still maintaining the ability to be in their face with the MLGS.


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    Re: What do you think of my Spell sword build!?

    Post by Automancer on Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:11 am

    You have Chameleon for that. Use the soulmass, activate chameleon so they can't lock on to you and once they get close, either use the WDB or MLGS. You might want to try playing with the Great Soul Arrows. With 50 Int and the Logan's Ctlyst with Bellowing and Gywndolin's Crown, those soul arrows will do very nice damage.

    Also, play with Poison Mist. Cloak your presence, use chameleon and fire Soul Spears. Almost always works.

    EDIT: Here's a nice info. You can swap weapons while in Chameleon without breaking the spell. Good for quick surprises.

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    Re: What do you think of my Spell sword build!?

    Post by Animaaal on Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:55 pm

    Pallash wrote:I was editing my post no reason to be ***

    wth????
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    Re: What do you think of my Spell sword build!?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:03 pm

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=307461285172878310

    heres my take on the build, this is if you have the dlc though.


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    Re: What do you think of my Spell sword build!?

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:14 pm

    No dark sorceries??? WDB is gonna be really slow, best way to use it Is at 45 Dex. But if you still want it my suggestion is cast it when you know their gonna do a sprint attack. Timing id key though cause you have low poise and can be interrupted. I prefer fast rolling in mages to get out of the way fast if you miss a spell. This seems to be a magic heavy build so I ditch MLGS for a rapier so that you concentrate in casting spells.

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    Re: What do you think of my Spell sword build!?

    Post by Rifter7 on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:17 pm

    i think its to heavy and theres to many spells. if anything you're limiting your ability to get them out when you want them.

    you also have to toggle your weapon out to cast your spells.. which is kind of a scary thing to do considering peoples preference to backstab and get up in your grill when you start casting them.


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    Re: What do you think of my Spell sword build!?

    Post by Animaaal on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:26 pm

    I'd try this: Int/Pyro

    My suggestions:

    -Ditch the Grass Crest. When you cast, you'll regen stamina. Darkhand is op'd in pvp. Especially in with SMS.

    -Strong Magic Shield. Sometimes against a powerful mage, Crest Shield is not enough. Strong Magic Shield only lasts 15 seconds, but count it out loud...one one-thousand...two one-thousand.....its plenty of time. Casting HCSM is the perfect way to set it up as well.

    -If you insist on using pyro, Great Combustion and Power Within is how I'd roll.

    -If you get the dlc, ditch the pyro and go with Dark Bead and Pursuers.

    -Sub BDCR for Wolf Ring. You can fast roll this way and still hit 53 poise. You have more than enough power for your magics, pyros, and your MLGS. If you need BDCR to win, you prolly need to work on playstyle, not stats...just my opinion.

    -You got low vit. You're gonna have to specialize in controlling the tempo. The current spells you have combined with fast rolling should do that for you. Abuse your i frames.

    -Dont forget SMS works on pyros, magic, faith, elemental weapons, and also reduces stamina drain, not much, but it does reduce it.

    Good luck.

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    Re: What do you think of my Spell sword build!?

    Post by Animaaal on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:30 pm

    Rifter7 wrote:i think its to heavy and theres to many spells. if anything you're limiting your ability to get them out when you want them.

    you also have to toggle your weapon out to cast your spells.. which is kind of a scary thing to do considering peoples preference to backstab and get up in your grill when you start casting them.

    Thats a good point.

    If you have problems creating space, equip your pyro before casting to try and hit people with combustion when they fish (lock off).

    Try to keep HCSM on at all times, and remember people can roll towards you and through it at the same time.
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    Re: What do you think of my Spell sword build!?

    Post by VaDoom on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:52 pm

    WDB is usable, but you should use it as your secret weapon.
    As WyrmHero said, you can use it when your opponent is doing a sprint attack.
    I also had success using it against people rolling forward under my crystal soul spears.
    you, the opponent :
    ccs->Roll forward->ccs->Roll forward->casting WDB->Roll at the wrong timing and get hit by WDB.
    It's tricky because most used soul spells have fast casting, this can therefore be unexpected.
    It's also very good in tight places.
    Yes, in the end, the investment in intelligence, especialy without 45 dext, is questionable, but if you like WDB, keep it.



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