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    Re: [Video] Fatroll PVP

    Post by IV_Mark_VI on Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:45 pm

    Poise does go down though; it would be nice to know how fast though.


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    Re: [Video] Fatroll PVP

    Post by Saturday-Saint on Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:53 pm

    EWGF did some research on it and what he found was that after getting hit there was about a one second delay before your poise meter began to deplete. Once it began, it took depleted by ~20% of its total per second. You could probably do some much more accurate tests than he did on the PC version using CE, though.


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    Re: [Video] Fatroll PVP

    Post by WyrmHero on Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:57 pm

    Saturday-Saint wrote:
    IV_Mark_VI wrote:Your poise meter starts going down after a hit; this could explain it. From the first to the 3rd hit, he recovered 2 pts or more of poise.

    Spears do 30 poise damage. So 1 hit = 30, 2 hits = 60, 3 hit = 90, etc. Very simple math. When your poise meter is filled, you get stunned.



    That actually makes a lot of sense, don't know why I was adding the poise breakpoints.


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    Re: [Video] Fatroll PVP

    Post by IV_Mark_VI on Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:10 pm

    In my defence, I was lazy and based my post on that Wyrm knew what he was talking about. Should have known better! big grin

    Just joking Wyrm.


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    Re: [Video] Fatroll PVP

    Post by WyrmHero on Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:11 pm

    LOL


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    Re: [Video] Fatroll PVP

    Post by AzureTear on Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:27 pm

    You know for these faith tank builds, wouldn't it also be effective just to iron flesh, tranquil walk of peace and bash them?

    I realize it might be cheap, i'm just asking if that's the only reason you guys don't do it.
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    Re: [Video] Fatroll PVP

    Post by WyrmHero on Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:28 pm

    AzureTear wrote:You know for these faith tank builds, wouldn't it also be effective just to iron flesh, tranquil walk of peace and bash them?

    I realize it might be cheap, i'm just asking if that's the only reason you guys don't do it.



    Can't use TWoP while using Iron Flesh, but TWoP is a good option for a medium/fat roll build.


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    Re: [Video] Fatroll PVP

    Post by IV_Mark_VI on Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:30 pm

    Can't use both at the same time, only one body buff allowed at once. Just TWOP would be enough, but its considered cheap, and there's the possibility that your foe would run for it (but thats the same with any buff).

    Dammit, ninja'd!


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    Re: [Video] Fatroll PVP

    Post by AzureTear on Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:31 pm

    IV_Mark_VI wrote:Can't use both at the same time, only one body buff allowed at once. Just TWOP would be enough, but its considered cheap, and there's the possibility that your foe would run for it (but thats the same with any buff).

    Dammit, ninja'd!

    Ah dang, didn't consider TWOP as a body buff...and those ppl who run away from buffs are a PITA.
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    Re: [Video] Fatroll PVP

    Post by WyrmHero on Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:34 pm

    AzureTear wrote:
    IV_Mark_VI wrote:Can't use both at the same time, only one body buff allowed at once. Just TWOP would be enough, but its considered cheap, and there's the possibility that your foe would run for it (but thats the same with any buff).

    Dammit, ninja'd!

    Ah dang, didn't consider TWOP as a body buff...and those ppl who run away from buffs are a PITA.

    I understand them, they're just being clever. That's why I don't buff if my opponent doesn't either, it just wastes my time.


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    Re: [Video] Fatroll PVP

    Post by reim0027 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:48 pm

    Be prepared to be roll BSed. If I come across a tank like that, then my strategy is roll BS or look for a pattern and parry. And, that is after turtling until the buff wears off.


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    Re: [Video] Fatroll PVP

    Post by Kobra on Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:57 pm

    reim0027 wrote:Be prepared to be roll BSed. If I come across a tank like that, then my strategy is roll BS or look for a pattern and parry. And, that is after turtling until the buff wears off.
    You must have missed the part where I play unlocked to punish backstab fishing scrubs.
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    Re: [Video] Fatroll PVP

    Post by reim0027 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:06 pm

    No, I saw it. I also saw someone smart enough to roll through your dead angle WoG and backstab you.


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    Re: [Video] Fatroll PVP

    Post by Kobra on Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:24 pm

    And being the scrubby mothers mask rapier flip ring dingy robe heater shield backstab fishing scrub he is, I destroyed him after standing back up.
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    Re: [Video] Fatroll PVP

    Post by Myztyrio on Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:35 pm

    Fun stuff silly


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    Re: [Video] Fatroll PVP

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:40 pm

    Dear god I can see so many repercussions from this.


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    Re: [Video] Fatroll PVP

    Post by reim0027 on Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:05 am

    Kobra wrote:And being the scrubby mothers mask rapier flip ring dingy robe heater shield backstab fishing scrub he is, I destroyed him after standing back up.
    Take it easy Kobra. No need to get insulting. His build is set up to be powerful in one aspect. Yours is set up to be powerful in another.


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    Re: [Video] Fatroll PVP

    Post by IV_Mark_VI on Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:11 am

    Hey Kobra, I know in highlight videos only wins are normally shown, but doyou have any that highlights the weaknesses? What if someone doesn't want to engage and just shoots you with a bow/magic?


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    Re: [Video] Fatroll PVP

    Post by Kobra on Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:16 am

    IV_Mark_VI wrote:Hey Kobra, I know in highlight videos only wins are normally shown, but doyou have any that highlights the weaknesses? What if someone doesn't want to engage and just shoots you with a bow/magic?
    All bows can be dodged by strafing sideways and the first fight shows what happens to a magic spammer, even after I did a well what is it to his pursuers (he was also a much higher level). The last fight is what you do to a turtle.
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    Re: [Video] Fatroll PVP

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:23 am

    Halberds are very difficult to counter. If you could have at least 61 poise you can tank his R1 spamming for a poise backstab. Bows shoukd work since you out range the pokes. Halberds are the bane of my existence and this build is just perfect for them.


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    Re: [Video] Fatroll PVP

    Post by IV_Mark_VI on Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:25 am

    I played a SL 65 Iron Tarkus cosplay fatroll and I did well in the forest, but my weakest matchups were with people decent with magic/bows. There's no walls to back them up against in the forest, so my options were trading with them with a heavy xbow, or using cover and tryng to force them to make a mistake. In this arena, there's walls to push them up against so they can't run forever, especialy with WoG to box them in.


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    Re: [Video] Fatroll PVP

    Post by Saturday-Saint on Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:43 am

    Say what you want about BS fishing, Kobra, it's the best luck I've had against this build. Frankly, a lot of builds just aren't going to be able to take this build head-on.

    Also, out of curiosity, have you run into any mages who are smart enough to wait until GMB ends before spamming DB and Pursuers?


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    Re: [Video] Fatroll PVP

    Post by AzureTear on Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:52 am

    lol how ironic is it that some mage players have the least intelligence in combat.

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    Re: [Video] Fatroll PVP

    Post by Kobra on Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:00 am

    I actually didn't run into any INT builds who managed to wait out both my casts of GMB. By that time they're either dead or severely crippled. if worst comes to worst i hard swap for the crest shield.
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    Re: [Video] Fatroll PVP

    Post by AzureTear on Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:56 am

    I wonder if it would be viable to make a pure cast tank build, focused on neutralizing damage using spells and miracles and keeping a fast roll speed lol.

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