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    Re: Dark Souls 2 Wiki is up!

    Post by Tolvo on Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:18 pm

    Thanks Baal, I would add more but I have no idea how to create pages or link them. I'm functionally retarded when it comes to that sort of coding.
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    Re: Dark Souls 2 Wiki is up!

    Post by Baal-Avatar on Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:31 pm

    Tolvo wrote:Thanks Baal, I would add more but I have no idea how to create pages or link them. I'm functionally retarded when it comes to that sort of coding.

    At the bottom of the wiki there is a help link. There is a link in the pop-up window labeled: Editing a Page.

    You would be surprised how easy it is.

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    Re: Dark Souls 2 Wiki is up!

    Post by Tolvo on Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:34 pm

    I've tried that before but I couldn't really understand it.

    I did find that if you press a Plus sign you can make a new page. I'm going to work on the page for the torch now.

    What are the views on screenshots? Can I just take them from the IGN video?
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    Re: Dark Souls 2 Wiki is up!

    Post by Tolvo on Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:51 pm

    Nevermind


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    Re: Dark Souls 2 Wiki is up!

    Post by Baal-Avatar on Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:51 pm

    I have added the new screenshots to the site:
    http://darksouls2wiki.wikispaces.com/Screen+Shots

    Since the IGN video has their logo watermark, I would not post grabs of the video.
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    Re: Dark Souls 2 Wiki is up!

    Post by Tolvo on Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:53 pm

    Well I can easily crop out their watermark to just zoom in on parts of the video and focus, such as this.



    Typically the watermark is there so that you can't steal the video and claim it as your own, or does that also extend to screenshots?
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    Re: Dark Souls 2 Wiki is up!

    Post by Baal-Avatar on Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:54 pm

    If you have the images saved to your computer, when editing a page click the "file" link in the edit page bar. From there click the "+ Upload File" button in the upper right. Find the file and upload it. Then wait a moment and select "My Recent Uploads" from the right pulldown.

    Hokus-Pokus...you can add images!
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    Re: Dark Souls 2 Wiki is up!

    Post by Baal-Avatar on Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:55 pm

    Tolvo wrote:Well I can easily crop out their watermark to just zoom in on parts of the video and focus, such as this.



    Typically the watermark is there so that you can't steal the video and claim it as your own, or does that also extend to screenshots?

    That might be a question for our legal counsel Fex. I am not certain of the rules for this. since this was a IGN exclusive, I would presume we should not upload shots...but I am not certain. Nice screen grab though.
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    Re: Dark Souls 2 Wiki is up!

    Post by Tolvo on Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:58 pm

    I simply set the video to the highest quality and find a moment where there is little movement so the character is as still as possible, then I save it as a PNG through GIMP at a large resolution then shrink it slightly so as much detail is in it as possible. I also crop it before resizing it so that I get the exact framing that I want.

    I'll wait for Fex then before adding any images, I'll start editing them now and wait for her on whether to put them on the Wiki or not.
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    Re: Dark Souls 2 Wiki is up!

    Post by Tolvo on Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:23 pm

    At least for the time being, I can use your screenshots and edit them slightly to focus them in regards to a page.
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    Re: Dark Souls 2 Wiki is up!

    Post by Dubscythe on Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:48 pm

    So, this may be a stupid question and feel free to call me out on it being a stupid question... but why two separate wikis instead of one unified one?


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    Re: Dark Souls 2 Wiki is up!

    Post by Tolvo on Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:00 am

    Because if you go into combat, you'll have to then go through to figure out which combat mechanics pertain to Dark Souls and which for Dark Souls 2.

    Same for enemies, armor sets, everything.

    Usually games set up separate Wiki's for each game in the series, while large media series focus on having one large wiki with each of the story/lore aspects that belong to the series.
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    Re: Dark Souls 2 Wiki is up!

    Post by FexDS on Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:00 am

    Thank you for the quick and effective updating guys!

    Tolvo we can create a test page so you can play around with settings and learn some of the editing tricks. Ublug is very good at figuring them out too so when in doubt he would be the first person I would email winking

    About the images, we can use them with the IGN logo and some sort of disclaimer/link to their page until the gameplay demo is available for other mediums such as official website. If you are planning on cropping an item, however, there is no need to worry happy


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    Re: Dark Souls 2 Wiki is up!

    Post by Tolvo on Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:05 am

    Aw man, but that would mean I'd have to retake every screenshot and set it up so the IGN image is in everyone, that would take me a while...

    If I didn't already make duplicates in case that was the situation!

    I feel like I'm on a cooking show.

    A test page, yeah I could fiddle with that and get a better idea of the coding, format for fonts, spacing, and other such things when setting up the pages so they look as good as possible.

    At the bottom of each page should I link to IGN's video, or IGN's main website?
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    Re: Dark Souls 2 Wiki is up!

    Post by Emergence on Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:30 am

    Wiki looks great folks!

    Tolvo, to answer your question, link the .gameplay vid much in the same way cited articles are linked back to their relevant pages on their parent websites. That will ensure that in the time being, IGN gets credit and vid views until an official vid is put up for dissemination.


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    Re: Dark Souls 2 Wiki is up!

    Post by Tolvo on Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:40 am

    I already was doing that, though I was ready to change it to the other method. So far I think I'm doing it right then.

    I even just took a bunch of general screenshots which I'm about to edit.

    I just need to find some way to weasel in this image if I can, because I love it.

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    Re: Dark Souls 2 Wiki is up!

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:42 am

    File in under thrown projectiles. Throwing knives, poison knives, firebombs, giant axes...

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    Re: Dark Souls 2 Wiki is up!

    Post by Tolvo on Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:44 am

    I could perhaps use it for the Troll, we don't actually know if the player can throw axes. It might just be for enemies.
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    Re: Dark Souls 2 Wiki is up!

    Post by Emergence on Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:44 am

    Ha nice Tolvo. I embedded the vids in the Media section as well, with links kept for posterity. I want to take a look at the formatting templates. May want to get them laid out for stuff like the items page. I'd like to hold off on laying out the armor, weapon, shield templates until we know for sure the nuances of them because the templates may need tweaks then. However, item template is pretty generic and should suffice for 2.


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    Re: Dark Souls 2 Wiki is up!

    Post by Tolvo on Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:48 am

    By the way I did a little trick, I waited until the UI went into the blackest part of the video it enters and took a screen shot. Cropping it out, I can get it in near pitch blackness meaning it can possibly be set up in a GIF for image files of the items present in the UI.

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    Re: Dark Souls 2 Wiki is up!

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:50 am

    Is the Drop Stone of Healing going to be an item people have a lot of, if so then why are we carrying over Estus Flasks?

    What is Magic going to be like?

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    Re: Dark Souls 2 Wiki is up!

    Post by Tolvo on Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:52 am

    I'd leave that to the DKS2 Discussion section, many people have been speculating.
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    Re: Dark Souls 2 Wiki is up!

    Post by Emergence on Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:41 pm

    Tolvo, I'll be working along with you here on the onset, trying to create backlinks to the content you're kicking out. It'll help build cohesion but most importantly it will make sure your hard work gets seen by people clicking through. A page that exists like an island tends to get missed. I added Bonfires to the Nav and linked it to the page. I'm having a think over how best to classify these Key Mouths. The stones would be an item. Depending on their prevalence the Key Mouths may merit their own section in the Nav like Bonfires have.


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    Re: Dark Souls 2 Wiki is up!

    Post by Emergence on Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:45 pm

    Gotta say I'm tickled to be working on a wiki again. As much as I love community building/management nothing scratches the creative itch quite like a tangible wiki. That fresh feeling of discovery!


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    Re: Dark Souls 2 Wiki is up!

    Post by Tolvo on Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:48 pm

    Yeah, it feels pretty great to be contributing. It makes me really sad I wasn't there for the release of Dark Souls, but I promised myself I'd be there for the next one.

    And indeed the Key Mouths seem like they will need their own page. From how they are described they'll be found throughout the various levels in a fashion like the Bonfire. Personally I liken them to Tendency in Dark Souls.

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