Is it possible to battle the Capra Demon in co-op via Upper Undead Burg?

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    Is it possible to battle the Capra Demon in co-op via Upper Undead Burg?

    Post by retro on Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:55 am

    If a host summons a player for co-op in the upper undead burg, but then takes the unintended-shortcut to the lower undead burg, will the capra demon fog gate be accessible?

    Fog gates go up preventing normal travel between upper and lower undead burg, which had me wondering if capra's will work or be disabled.

    I can't think of any reason to do this, outside of sequence-breaking with friends, or just doing something out of the ordinary. tongue


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    Re: Is it possible to battle the Capra Demon in co-op via Upper Undead Burg?

    Post by Serious_Much on Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:57 am

    No it's not, the fog walls cover the shortcut between lower and upper burg.


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    Re: Is it possible to battle the Capra Demon in co-op via Upper Undead Burg?

    Post by retro on Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:58 am

    Serious_Much wrote:No it's not, the fog walls cover the shortcut between lower and upper burg.
    I just added a link into the OP, you can jump down to the lower burg, bypassing the fog gates.
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    Re: Is it possible to battle the Capra Demon in co-op via Upper Undead Burg?

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:01 am

    I don't know about that. Even if you could it would be difficult to get the summon to follow you unless you had some predetermined agreement.

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    Re: Is it possible to battle the Capra Demon in co-op via Upper Undead Burg?

    Post by Serious_Much on Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:02 am

    Ah, that's an interesting route I must say.. Though at low levels I'm not sure you could survive that... Both of you using fall control could do it?

    Needs testing for sure..

    Then again it's possible that during coop that shortcut turns into an instant death fall.


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    Re: Is it possible to battle the Capra Demon in co-op via Upper Undead Burg?

    Post by TehInfamousAmos on Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:10 am

    Serious, it doesn't. I and an invader had a fun chase fest until he ran into the capra room xD


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    Re: Is it possible to battle the Capra Demon in co-op via Upper Undead Burg?

    Post by Serious_Much on Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:15 am

    wait.. so an invader can run into the capra room if he starts on the upper burg? That's pretty jokes.


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    Re: Is it possible to battle the Capra Demon in co-op via Upper Undead Burg?

    Post by dancash1808 on Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:18 am

    @ serious. fall damage seems to deal damage in %of total hp. so if you have low vit you lose little whereas high vit it takes of alot of hp...


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    Re: Is it possible to battle the Capra Demon in co-op via Upper Undead Burg?

    Post by retro on Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:19 am

    Serious_Much wrote:Ah, that's an interesting route I must say.. Though at low levels I'm not sure you could survive that... Both of you using fall control could do it?

    Needs testing for sure..

    Then again it's possible that during coop that shortcut turns into an instant death fall.
    Ah - it's definitely survivable without leveling vit. I did it with a level 1 character, though I was wearing the Ring of Favor and Protection...

    It's also not insta-death for co-op. I don't normally like messing around in other people's games, but I found a player who bb glitched and didn't look like they really needed my help. After killing havel, the host ran back and waited for a summon for a while. That's when I got bored and thought to mess around with running down there.

    A fog gate prevents you from opening the shortcut by the female undead merchant, but you can open the shortcut to the lower undead burg for the host. The fog gate will still be up, but the door will open.

    That's when I wondered if we could've fought the capra if the host followed me.

    If anyone wants to test it with me, I have level 1, 55, 76, and 100-something characters on PS3. You'd have to be the host though.


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    Re: Is it possible to battle the Capra Demon in co-op via Upper Undead Burg?

    Post by retro on Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:22 am

    TehInfamousAmos wrote:Serious, it doesn't. I and an invader had a fun chase fest until he ran into the capra room xD

    Into the capra room? This means you had the capra demon already defeated, but the taurus undefeated? Because there should be no normal way into the capra demon room for a summon/ invader, unless maybe you kept the Taurus alive- had someone invade there- then ran down into the already-defeated capra room?
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    Re: Is it possible to battle the Capra Demon in co-op via Upper Undead Burg?

    Post by Serious_Much on Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:24 am

    dancash1808 wrote:@ serious. fall damage seems to deal damage in %of total hp. so if you have low vit you lose little whereas high vit it takes of alot of hp...

    Didn't know that, though that kinda disappoints me in a way..


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    Re: Is it possible to battle the Capra Demon in co-op via Upper Undead Burg?

    Post by dancash1808 on Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:31 am

    Why? I like that.
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    Re: Is it possible to battle the Capra Demon in co-op via Upper Undead Burg?

    Post by Serious_Much on Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:44 am

    Dan, I mean it should do a static amount of damage that kills low levels and allows higher levels to survive it.. To show increasing power and character progression.


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    Re: Is it possible to battle the Capra Demon in co-op via Upper Undead Burg?

    Post by dancash1808 on Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:08 pm

    but thats what everything else does! gravity is still gravity regardless. frankly I think it should have been scaled with equip weight but meh.


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    Re: Is it possible to battle the Capra Demon in co-op via Upper Undead Burg?

    Post by befowler on Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:12 pm

    Yeah, you can survive the fall with almost any character, particularly if you take off your heavy gear first. To me this is another one of those "how unintended is this really" things, given the very conspicuous balcony most folks use, and the survivable fall.


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    Re: Is it possible to battle the Capra Demon in co-op via Upper Undead Burg?

    Post by Serious_Much on Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:46 pm

    dancash1808 wrote:but thats what everything else does! gravity is still gravity regardless. frankly I think it should have been scaled with equip weight but meh.

    It is scaled with equip weight too.


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    Re: Is it possible to battle the Capra Demon in co-op via Upper Undead Burg?

    Post by Rynn on Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:49 pm

    You can fight the capra demon.
    I have done this before.
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    Post by retro on Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:47 pm

    Cool, good to know!


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    Re: Is it possible to battle the Capra Demon in co-op via Upper Undead Burg?

    Post by BLA1NE on Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:41 pm

    But... why would you want to? silly

    I guess if you were playing with a friend, that's a valid reason. Otherwise, in my experience co-oping capra, the hosts who really need you usually die before you're even through the fog gate! Would suck to get by the shortcut, only for the host to die before you're even in the fight... And if they can survive long enough for you to get in, they probably don't need you in the first place!


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    Re: Is it possible to battle the Capra Demon in co-op via Upper Undead Burg?

    Post by retro on Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:33 am

    BLA1NE wrote:Would suck to get by the shortcut, only for the host to die before you're even in the fight... And if they can survive long enough for you to get in, they probably don't need you in the first place!

    Very right, all the more reason this would be a pretty pointless thing to do. :pirat:

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