Priscilla's Lifehunters (Under reconstruction)

WyrmHero wrote:Oh by the way the overall SL cap will be raised to SL 100. I was also thinking about raising it to SL 150 or higher SL (something new so that we can do new types of builds). Lower than SL 80 is really elemental builds zone.

Why? It’s fine at sl 80 IMO.
And why would you want to raise it to 150? If you want to invade more questers/PvE then you should lower it.

That's not always the case spur, most PvErs continue to level up without caring for an SL cap. SL 80 still has some issues on pure stat builds. You could have a pure Dex, but having an elemental version would still be far stronger. With SL 100, you can have a high Vit, medium End pure Str or Dex build, and will balance with the very High Vit/End of elemental builds. + it's unique among the forums covenants and not too far from SL 80. SL 150 could be interesting. 50 faith hybrids with high Vit/End and Dex/Str should be awesome.

I'm posting here just so that my general silence lately isn't mistaken for absence. I just haven't seen anything that has required my input.

I announced something 2 pages ago I hope you read it Shkar.

Congrats Ahho... Just read it
Ur dedication for us has been truly wonderful

Thanks! Jovi

Our covenants primary responsibility is to defend The Painted World and protect our Queen. We need to be at a soul level that will honor that commitment. Perhaps, we need to experiment to find that realistic soul level.
Also, LH is growing and we need to look ahead to the very real (and within lore) expansion of LH's influence. So, yes...a soul level adjustment maybe necessary.
I have PM'd wyrm with some initial "rough" ideas for brain-storming purposes. But, i will be "throwing " these ideas out into the public forum soon because member input is incredibly invaluable....and i wanna hear what everyone has to say.
Please feel free to PM me if you feel the need Suggestions and "productive" criticism(s) are always welcome here or via PM

WyrmHero wrote:That's not always the case spur, most PvErs continue to level up without caring for an SL cap. SL 80 still has some issues on pure stat builds. You could have a pure Dex, but having an elemental version would still be far stronger. With SL 100, you can have a high Vit, medium End pure Str or Dex build, and will balance with the very High Vit/End of elemental builds. + it's unique among the forums covenants and not too far from SL 80. SL 150 could be interesting. 50 faith hybrids with high Vit/End and Dex/Str should be awesome.

Most PvErs are at a lower sl than 80 when they first enter the PW, We would only be invading them at NG+. And PvPers are at every sl, you wont get away from them by leveling. I sl 80 because you can’t have everything, and it’s worked for us so far. And what does uniqueness have to do with it? Sl 150 is even worse, we wouldn’t be protecting priscilla at all.

You’re completely changing the covenant wyrm, it’s not like what it was in the beginning. - And it’s not a good thing IMO.

WyrmHero wrote:I announced something 2 pages ago I hope you read it Shkar.

You mean the removal of item donations along with the other stuff? I did. I'm reading most of the posts in the thread, I just haven't been posting/playing much.

Spurgun wrote:

WyrmHero wrote:That's not always the case spur, most PvErs continue to level up without caring for an SL cap. SL 80 still has some issues on pure stat builds. You could have a pure Dex, but having an elemental version would still be far stronger. With SL 100, you can have a high Vit, medium End pure Str or Dex build, and will balance with the very High Vit/End of elemental builds. + it's unique among the forums covenants and not too far from SL 80. SL 150 could be interesting. 50 faith hybrids with high Vit/End and Dex/Str should be awesome.

Most PvErs are at a lower sl than 80 when they first enter the PW, We would only be invading them at NG+. And PvPers are at every sl, you wont get away from them by leveling. I sl 80 because you can’t have everything, and it’s worked for us so far. And what does uniqueness have to do with it? Sl 150 is even worse, we wouldn’t be protecting priscilla at all.

You’re completely changing the covenant wyrm, it’s not like what it was in the beginning. - And it’s not a good thing IMO.

Allways a place for Dragons in my rank......

Come to think of it, i haven’t done a sl 55 build yet.

Just saying......

I'm just trying to get out of the elemental builds zone. I always wanted to do an SL 80 LH Scythe build and it always come out as weak when compared with an elemental Great Scythe one. I want an SL where I can have a pure stat build with high Vit and End. Hybrids need a place too, and SL 80 or lower is too low for them.

Disagree, at sl 80 hybrids work as they should. They get buffs and magic, as well as melee abilities, but the lack of a specialisation means that they're weaker in every area than a specialised build. Thats how dual classing works. If I'm a wrestler and a boxer, I'm not as good at either as I could be because I must take time from one to do the other.

At 120, hybrids don't work properly, they get all the benifits of dedicated builds, but none of the drawbacks of their dual classing.

Lifehunters, let's try to enjoy this moment of peace.

Wyrm is copacetic with everything, and that's what this covenant needs.

I have been asked to post and elaborate on suggestions given to Wyrm.
First I would like to address those who want no change at all. Stagnation within LH had become evident even before the "weapons restrictions" changes destabilized LH. Wyrm wanting to take LH out of the Painted World (DS War) was only one symptom of that stagnation. So, yeah he wanted change. Another symptom of stagnation is that LH was becoming an unofficial FC where only a few would gather to duel for fun and though fun is good not much else was happening other then invading PW. And the one mass invasion.
The expansion of LH reach beyond PW is not RP breaking but should and can contribute to the incredible RP world our community is creating. Regarding in-game lore, it's an incomplete story so far and should not be the "end-all" of covenant expansion. Also, we have the DLC to consider and it may very well shake up RP lore to some extent and definitely fill out/add more to the in-game story.
A current sticking point: A level cap that is higher then 120. Well, the fact is a lot of people are currently engaged in creating higher level chars. Levels of 130, 140, 150 (there about) is what i have been seeing and hearing about. Why? Because they are bored with being limited to lower levels and want to experiment. So why not incorporate that option. The operative word here is option/optional. This high level option needs to be fleshed out. Perhaps with challenges/restrictions put in place to avoid an all out free-for-all from occurring.
So what i have suggested is in fact a compromise that would give ALL LH members and future members some real and viable choices in how they would like to express themselves within LH. And, hopefully, revitalize LH and...yes, make it more interesting.
For the hell of it and for the fun of it I have given the following Latin names...so if no likes it its no big deall LOL. So...here goes:

The three Level Caps
SL 55 "Curiosi-Sicarius"
Meaning spies, informers, secret agency, assassins. This would be a specialization with weapons, armor restrictions to make this char a challenge to play effectively.

SL80 "Bellator Elite"
Meaning elite warrior. There should be no weapons or armor restrictions.

SL 100-150(?) "Provectus"
Meaning...Advanced. I have suggested that members should be given the option to experiment within the full range to basically see what happens. One requirement needs to be in place, however. Members who chose to create a Provectus char MUST have a LH SL 80 or 55 char active in the covenant.
Well....thats it. Remember member and potential member input is very important. But to
shoot down any and all change is not going to save LH. We need to improve LH...make it interesting and YES....FUN!!!

Please note that the internal structure such as ranks, ranking up, etc...was not commented on simply because the larger aspect needs to be settled first.

I like the idea Ahho, but perhaps you could allow DWs to stay at 55 with norestrictions once they have improved themselves? 80 for DWs is high.

DoughGuy wrote:I like the idea Ahho, but perhaps you could allow DWs to stay at 55 with norestrictions once they have improved themselves? 80 for DWs is high.

Thanks Dough
Sl 55 isn't just for DW. A LH member could be in any of the five accepted game covenants .
Besides that the rest is subject to change depending on how wyrm and others feel.

I think you should let my princess guard toon in.

Well we can have our old SL 60 cap for DWs and cracked eye orb, SL 80 for Gravelords and 100 for DMs. I like the idea Aho but I don't get why specializations should be dependant on SL. Still want to read more about this. By the way, what do you think we should do with weapon restrictions? Should we have just a few signature LH weapons? Should they be dependent on rank? What about armors? I had a list in the past of light, medium and heavy armor sets that could be mix/matched. I also like to have something to reward the higher ranks so that they wear/wield and be proud of it.

The gravelords at 70 had the most action in the last PW war

If my input is welcome, I'd say you're changing to much and to often. Picking something and sticking to it seems the best route. Who wants to join a group that has a major retool once a month?

I think that after this massive change I won't change it for a long time. So I hope everyone likes it.

I just want to know what is ultimately going to happen to the Darkwraith members.