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    Post by Rin Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:02 pm

    well no point im leaving country in some days going see some relatives in japan and usa oh n i cant realy find my drs disc Shrug
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    Post by billy_bayonet Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:55 pm

    ahahhahahaha
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    Post by Forum Pirate Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:48 pm

    BTW, I finally decided on what my characters did after leaving your ranks. About a third of other dms followed them and we spend our time doing what we did anyways, hunting dangerous individuals in/around the pw. Our loyalty to the group has faded, but our loyalty to the crossbreed has not.

    Wether you tolerate them or not is your choice.

    It took forever to figure out what they'd do and how because I didn't anticipate this situation, and I got distracted by real life.


    Also, wyrm is hardly "power mad." His rules are very reasonable, I'm simply holding to the original idea, which is not the same as the current version and so I defend the pw on my own.
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    Post by billy_bayonet Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:22 am

    Forum i do hope our original deal of your fighitng with me against the NK still stands?
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    Post by Forum Pirate Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:27 am

    Oh indeed. They get no mercy.
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    Post by billy_bayonet Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:29 am

    youll be fighting LHer as they allied with the NK
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    Post by DoughGuy Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:30 am

    Forum Pirate wrote:Oh indeed. They get no mercy.
    Fighting against your own Forum? Didnt think you'd go that far.
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    Post by dancash1808 Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:31 am

    what do you mean dough? forum was a lifehunter.... this is the noble knights painted world subdivision thread winking
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    Post by Forum Pirate Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:40 am

    I must despense justice how I see fit. I fight the stalkers, but they are solo hunters, hardly an organised and deadly force, however skilled and numerous the members are. You however are a clear and present danger and must take prority, regardless of your allies. Billy is aware that I am only with him against you, before and after we do our duty. [/persona]

    Also I have a different and unrelated character in the deliverance.
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    Post by billy_bayonet Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:41 am

    eventually me and pirate will end up killing the other, but that wont be yet! not while your still walking
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    Post by DoughGuy Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:42 am

    Still, seems VERY odd and out of place that the leader of a group of DMs would in any help a group of dangerous sinners, over a group of pure knights, when your old allies are helping said knights. How are you justifying that lorewise?
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    Post by billy_bayonet Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:43 am

    the old allies have betrayed everything and took refuge in your arms......
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    Post by DoughGuy Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:44 am

    Betrayed everything? No they made choices Etraiu didnt like (Im assumong thats how he fluffed it). So now he split from them, but he presumably still likes them.
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    Post by billy_bayonet Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:48 am

    no the betrayal is allieing with you!, twice you have tried to destory them, and now they run to you begging for help
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    Post by DoughGuy Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:49 am

    I onyl attacked them once, the last wars took place in our respective bases as training sessions. And allying with me? I doubt its an actual alliance. More a mutual agreement ot kill the people we hate before each other.
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    Post by billy_bayonet Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:51 am

    when we making teh actual war thread?
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    Post by DoughGuy Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:57 am

    I thought Viral was, but since he's off I'll probably make a proto war thread soon.
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    Post by Forum Pirate Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:08 am

    You initiated an organised and unprovoked attack on their home, making no distinction between innocent and guilty. Such behavior cannot be tolerated, and your group is a bigger threat. Every dm is trying to stop the stalkers, only we are trying to stop you, and you are both more numerous and specialise in unit tactics.

    IE they consider you a bigger threat to the stability of the world than the stalkers, who are fewer in number. The alliance is viewed as an insult to the dead and a twisted mockery of what being a lifehunter ment. Unless the knights have changed significantly since I last checked, you're a staggeringly intolerant group, and actively attack others who fail to conform. (despite the irony) that is something they won't tolerate. In their minds, you are probably not evil, merely misguided, but you're violently misguided and cannot be persuaded, so must be disbarred as soon as possible. The evil must be punished, and they do so, but you must also be stopped.


    We're dms with sworn loyally to the mistress of the painted world, we're hardly typical. Besides, the agreement promised the safty of their lady, they cannot back out now even if they wished to (they don't) else they risk retaliation against their queen.
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    Post by DoughGuy Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:13 am

    How could the knights be percieved as a threat to Lordrans Stability? All we are attempting to do is remove corruption from lordran (i.e. the 3 lords, priscilla) and the 4 kings) and make it safe for humans again. I believe I gave the LH a chance to forsake their queen and save themselves and their world, and I was rejected. I gave the followers a chance. Both of you rejected my offers, and thus you stand in the way of my goals. The DS on the other hand, only have the goal of sucking all humanity dry.

    The attack of priscilla was one of justice, for her actions in the past, where she intiated an unprovoked attack on the gods and their city full of innocents. I am no worse than her.
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    Post by Forum Pirate Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:46 am

    They don't believe your story for a second, even if they did many with nowhere to go were sheltered in the painted world, She devoted herself to helping the misfits.

    Also, you were asked to reconsider, by me actually. I don't remember you offering to let us go, only you attacking dragons, our friends and proclaming that the "abominations" must die.

    The goal of the stalkers is to free humanity from the gods, not so different from your crusade, and you are hostile biggots who attack anything you fear. Its the lords for now, but what of the innocent inhabitants of the painted world, the "abominations?" And what will you do if you succeed? Your militant nature and biggotry don't lend themselves to the idea that you would let things be, you may even become like the stalkers and try to "protect" humanity from the gods.

    As I said, a threat to innocents now, with the potential to get much worse. Its particularly baffling that you would expect them to help you after you killed their friends and family. Even if they wouldn't aid the stalkers against you, they wouldn't aid you against the stalkers, merely hide at the fringes of the battle and kill both sides.

    However, as I stated, them assisting (well, etraiu and hihime) the stalkers against you is part of an agreement that prevents them attacking their queen, and stalkers leader might be evil, but he keeps his word, so will they. We're (the characters) not friends, we've simply agreed to kill you before we kill eachother.
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    Post by DoughGuy Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:31 am

    It's possible that I didnt give the PW a chance, but that would be related to the original concept of the knights and the whole "attacked the city of the gods and killed thousands thing" I mentioned.

    Why wouldnt I let things be? Once Lordran is free of corruption the nice will become what they always have been, protectors of the people. The wil is still dangerous, and criminals will need punishing. We will act for peace once peace is achieved. And you seem to be under a misconception. Simply because I require the lords dead does not mean I hate the gods. Oscar is a supporter of the non corrupt gods, he serves them in this mission to reclaim their land for humanity.

    Which innocents? Your ones in the PW? Perhaps i could not see them as innocent, when they wer efighting to protect the evil i was there to destroy. I dont expect them to help me, Wyrm came to me. But I do expect your DMs to stick to their original goal of hunting sinners and never letting them go unpunished, not attacking knights pure.

    I can see this. The onyl problem is you seem to be implicating I dont keep my word, but its hard to tell without tone.
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    Post by Forum Pirate Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:02 am

    Its perspective. They don't believe you, for the reasons I mentioned and because the nature of organised militaries lends itself heavily to constant conflict, imagining reasons for such conflict as necessary. They might believe that you believe you, its difficult to say without non-combat experience.

    Who are you, a human, to decide whether or not a god is corrupt? We want the lords dead as much as anyone, our master commands gwyns death, the lords must perish to achieve this.

    I never said you hated the gods, onlt that you're crusading for man, just like the stalkers are. Your methods may differ, but the goals are similar. Preserve and protect humanity. You're both misguided. This could easily shift to a stalker like view of the gods.

    The bottom line for the small group to which we are refering, is that they see both groups as dangerous. Given a nudge your already highly intolerant yet idealist nature could quickly become the driving force for a great deal of destruction. You see yourselves as pure knights, they see you as ill-informed idealistic fools with power far beyond what should be wielded by such people.

    They're not allowing sinners to go unpunished, they're deeming the knights, a bigger threat to the world, the painted mistress and gwendolyn. The stalkers will succeed or fail fairly quickly, you could be a huge threat for a long time, and it is best to strike while you are young.


    I have no opinion, I'm just rping.
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    Post by DoughGuy Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:11 am

    There's a slight difference here, the knights only want the lords dead, not Gwyn. One only needs to look at what Lordran has become, Seath betrayed the gods, Priscilla attacked the gods, Nito's gravesworn and undead abominations, the 4 kings DWs and the chaos demons to see the corruption of these gods.

    You implied I would turn against the goals of the gods. Our goal is not at all similar. As I said we rclaim lordran for humanity for the gods. We are their hunble servants, we will not fight those who remian uncorrupted.

    And who are you to decided what power people should hold? I have earnt this army and its men's trust, why should I not have its men follow me?

    I still fail to see how our quest is a threat, when we are trying to make Lordran safe. Your only argument seesm to be I will turn against my word and my vows and betray my gods. That will not happen.
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    Post by Forum Pirate Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:44 am

    Yes humble servants often name themselves the noble knights and refer to themselves as pure, lol.

    Anyways, again they'd believe you believe that. They also see the danger possessed within your morals. Given a good push you'll happily crusade off against most anything you believe to be evil or wrong and kill everyone in the way. Values change with perspective, your army contains the inherent weakness of idealism. It is an easily manipulated trait.


    You are the biggest army around, with all the right ingredients for a huge disaster just waiting for circumstances or a clever determined individual or group to use such strong ideals against you, twisting values and priorities. You may even still believe yourself to be serving the gods as this happens. Even if oscar never waivered, history is filled with overthrown military leaders.

    If you really want a decent example of what the knights contain the potential to become, look up revan on wookiepedia and read about his desent into darkness. Thats the type of threat the group sees the knights as.


    As you're not actually talking to the characters, you cannot change their minds. I'm just explaining how they see you and why they oppose you.
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    Post by Rin Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:45 am

    @Forum Pirate haha not 'power mad' well completly destroying the original idea of fun and friendship with very little rules by letting hes most loyal friends and members go with a simple 'do it or leave' and restricting all the other members with pointless rules is a step too far

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