Pure Pyromancer

    Share
    avatar
    mugenis4real
    Insomniac
    Insomniac

    Posts : 1213
    Reputation : 77
    Join date : 2012-03-14
    Age : 23
    Location : NYC

    Pure Pyromancer

    Post by mugenis4real on Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:59 pm

    Just wondering what the community thinks of Pure Pyromancers. I'm talking 10 attunement slots with multiple castings of Great Combustion, Great Fireball, etc. We all know how powerful some of these spells can be, leave your thoughts.

    Unfair?
    Breath of fresh air?
    Stupid?
    Cool?
    Haven't run into one yet?


    avatar
    Imarreteet23
    Caffeinated
    Caffeinated

    Posts : 837
    Reputation : 34
    Join date : 2012-03-16
    Age : 21
    Location : The Great Perhaps

    Re: Pure Pyromancer

    Post by Imarreteet23 on Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:04 pm

    I have never ever run into a pure pyro, and I think it would be pretty cool to see. Go for it.

    Edit: Just don't Combustion spam!


    _________________
    There will usually be a time where I realise that my day simply cannot get any better, that the rest of the day will only get worse. This usually happens while playing Dark Souls


    Stay nerdy, my friends.
    avatar
    Railage
    Obsessed
    Obsessed

    Posts : 341
    Reputation : 6
    Join date : 2012-03-14
    Age : 25
    Location : Durant

    Re: Pure Pyromancer

    Post by Railage on Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:12 pm

    I've been doing one of these and it's wicked fun.

    I usually just spin around casting fireballs, haven't gotten any hate mails, and sometimes people think it's funny when I black out their screen with Acid Surge/Toxic Mist/Poison Mist.


    _________________
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0D_q5VEaJQ    Chevelle - Sleepwalking Elite
    avatar
    Blade of The Sun
    Addicted
    Addicted

    Posts : 208
    Reputation : 4
    Join date : 2012-04-09
    Location : Kiln of the first Flame.

    Re: Pure Pyromancer

    Post by Blade of The Sun on Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:11 pm

    mugenis4real wrote:Just wondering what the community thinks of Pure Pyromancers. I'm talking 10 attunement slots with multiple castings of Great Combustion, Great Fireball, etc. We all know how powerful some of these spells can be, leave your thoughts.

    Unfair?
    Breath of fresh air?
    Stupid?
    Cool?
    Haven't run into one yet?



    I have this saying...

    I will never use Pyromancy EVER again. I will never use the Hornet's Ring EVER! I am above griefers.


    _________________
    A soul, pure and true.
    It enters the valley of corruption, with nothing but faith and a freind.
    It walks among the pained, unable to help their wretched souls as they suffer on.
    It finds solace in the fact that it is at least trying.
    It then feels it can no longer take their pains without the power to end them.
    and so, it takes on a demon soul, and becomes not a fair and pure maiden, but a lost executioner who finds peace in helping the pained pass on from this life.
    avatar
    Imarreteet23
    Caffeinated
    Caffeinated

    Posts : 837
    Reputation : 34
    Join date : 2012-03-16
    Age : 21
    Location : The Great Perhaps

    Re: Pure Pyromancer

    Post by Imarreteet23 on Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:14 pm

    Wait... Why is Pyromancy grieferish? I mean, combustion spam is, but I don't think Pyro in general is?


    _________________
    There will usually be a time where I realise that my day simply cannot get any better, that the rest of the day will only get worse. This usually happens while playing Dark Souls


    Stay nerdy, my friends.
    avatar
    KomradDakka
    Caffeinated
    Caffeinated

    Posts : 727
    Reputation : 4
    Join date : 2012-04-10
    Location : Dukes Archives

    Re: Pure Pyromancer

    Post by KomradDakka on Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:19 pm

    Id say use it as a PVE to help others and absolutley punish invaders. i mean hey, who invited them into your world? as far as i see it, its home turf... being a pyro spam invader might be a litte unjust for the guy just trying to make his way from A to B


    _________________
    Welcome To Chernaus - http://soulswiki.forumsrpg.com/t4981p15-day-z-komraddakkas-journal#91882

    Komradds Kafe - Music and discussion 24/7 - http://www.synchtube.com/r/komradd#
    avatar
    his1n-
    Addicted
    Addicted

    Posts : 182
    Reputation : 0
    Join date : 2012-01-23
    Age : 27
    Location : Germany

    Re: Pure Pyromancer

    Post by his1n- on Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:44 pm

    Toxic Mist(, Poison Mist, Acid Surge...) Fire Tempest.
    Win.

    Playing a dual wielding Pyromancer DW lvl 60, loving it, currently running around with the Ring of Fog in the Tomb of Giants and spreading the word of Izalith without fail.
    Before I turned into this inflaming being I was actually infecting people with the egg-head using the Mists... what can be much more fun than this?
    avatar
    Sulfur
    Addicted
    Addicted

    Posts : 119
    Reputation : -1
    Join date : 2012-04-14
    Location : Darkroot Garden

    Re: Pure Pyromancer

    Post by Sulfur on Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:01 pm

    my buddy is actually doing a VIT/DEX/END/ATN path for a pure pyromancer, its going well, if you equip a flame claymore for pve and a flame washing pole for pvp, the class is scary as hell, especially if you have acid surge, which only makes the damage that much greater.


    _________________
    avatar
    Blade of The Sun
    Addicted
    Addicted

    Posts : 208
    Reputation : 4
    Join date : 2012-04-09
    Location : Kiln of the first Flame.

    Re: Pure Pyromancer

    Post by Blade of The Sun on Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:11 pm

    Imarreteet23 wrote:Wait... Why is Pyromancy grieferish? I mean, combustion spam is, but I don't think Pyro in general is?

    You might have a point if 80%(or higher if you're me) of the people that use Pyromancy didn't use Great Combustion. I've used it, it is just down right cheap. It can stunlock, it has great range, can be spammed and does enormous amounts of damage. Whenever it's used I just stand still in defiance of the battle.


    _________________
    A soul, pure and true.
    It enters the valley of corruption, with nothing but faith and a freind.
    It walks among the pained, unable to help their wretched souls as they suffer on.
    It finds solace in the fact that it is at least trying.
    It then feels it can no longer take their pains without the power to end them.
    and so, it takes on a demon soul, and becomes not a fair and pure maiden, but a lost executioner who finds peace in helping the pained pass on from this life.
    avatar
    mugenis4real
    Insomniac
    Insomniac

    Posts : 1213
    Reputation : 77
    Join date : 2012-03-14
    Age : 23
    Location : NYC

    Re: Pure Pyromancer

    Post by mugenis4real on Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:00 pm

    Just accused of hacking on PS3 for dealing 924 damage with one Great Combustion :|
    avatar
    cloudyeki
    Compulsory Poster
    Compulsory Poster

    Posts : 3685
    Reputation : 101
    Join date : 2012-03-19
    Age : 25
    Location : Cali

    Re: Pure Pyromancer

    Post by cloudyeki on Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:25 pm

    The ***?! Alright, I admit GC is pretty dangerous, but it has low range compared to the greatswords and up, you can roll through it and around it like most pyromancies and it's punishable if you can see it coming, and you can if you catch the lean forward animation before it.


    _________________
    Spoiler:

    Props to BindMind for the sig!
    avatar
    his1n-
    Addicted
    Addicted

    Posts : 182
    Reputation : 0
    Join date : 2012-01-23
    Age : 27
    Location : Germany

    Re: Pure Pyromancer

    Post by his1n- on Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:04 pm

    It can stunlock

    Stun=|=Stunlock. It can't.
    It's the ultimate PvP spell while still being 5000 times more acceptable than WotG, since it's way easier to defend against fire; also it has no knockback, being not as terribly easy to punish though.

    In 120(+) PvPs you can always have a black knight shield in reserve... taking away the danger completely.
    You can play cheaply with almost everything, GC is one of the threats I would raise among the last to be spoken of. It's simply a good attack and when someone spams it against you, -you- might get the feeling of it being overpowered simply because you don't know the counters.
    avatar
    Blade of The Sun
    Addicted
    Addicted

    Posts : 208
    Reputation : 4
    Join date : 2012-04-09
    Location : Kiln of the first Flame.

    Re: Pure Pyromancer

    Post by Blade of The Sun on Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:24 pm

    Why would you compare pyromancy to a greatsword? That's like comparing a bandit dagger to a bow, or a dinosaur to a tiger. What relevance do they both have? Greatswords aren't a part of this discussion. Yes, Great combustion has amazing range for how much damage it has backing it up. 900+ damage in one cast is entirely too much damage for the functionality that spell has. 200 damage would be closer to what it should be capable of. It shouldn't have the reach of a standard straight sword or higher at it's damage. Demon's souls had a perfect combustion spell that sacrificed range for damage. It didn't have both plus stunlocking. To be honest i think GC being able to stunlock is an issue with poise. Poise has been jacked up from day 1. Yes, they tried to make heavier gear more viable, but what they achieved was actually just annoying. Ninja Flipping fatties is annoying.

    Sorry about the rant on poise, but the facts are this.

    too much range for its damage or vice-versa.
    it's cast time is ridiculously fast.
    It CAN stunlock.


    _________________
    A soul, pure and true.
    It enters the valley of corruption, with nothing but faith and a freind.
    It walks among the pained, unable to help their wretched souls as they suffer on.
    It finds solace in the fact that it is at least trying.
    It then feels it can no longer take their pains without the power to end them.
    and so, it takes on a demon soul, and becomes not a fair and pure maiden, but a lost executioner who finds peace in helping the pained pass on from this life.
    avatar
    his1n-
    Addicted
    Addicted

    Posts : 182
    Reputation : 0
    Join date : 2012-01-23
    Age : 27
    Location : Germany

    Re: Pure Pyromancer

    Post by his1n- on Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:28 pm

    It CAN stunlock.

    Never seen. Can anyone confirm?
    If it really can, which neither ever happened to me nor I ever achieved, then trollolololGCstunlocklameee. Elseway I will stick to what I said.


    Last edited by his1n- on Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:32 pm; edited 1 time in total


    _________________
    aka his1nightmare,
    the one who backstabbed 1337 disbelievers for the sake of the Daughters of Chaos.
    avatar
    Blade of The Sun
    Addicted
    Addicted

    Posts : 208
    Reputation : 4
    Join date : 2012-04-09
    Location : Kiln of the first Flame.

    Re: Pure Pyromancer

    Post by Blade of The Sun on Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:30 pm

    his1n- wrote:
    It CAN stunlock.

    Never seen. Can anyone confirm?

    Don't wear Giants or Havels and actually wear armor based on aesthetics instead of poise/weight ratio. You will see how toxic it can be. It even stuns Gwyn the last boss.


    _________________
    A soul, pure and true.
    It enters the valley of corruption, with nothing but faith and a freind.
    It walks among the pained, unable to help their wretched souls as they suffer on.
    It finds solace in the fact that it is at least trying.
    It then feels it can no longer take their pains without the power to end them.
    and so, it takes on a demon soul, and becomes not a fair and pure maiden, but a lost executioner who finds peace in helping the pained pass on from this life.
    avatar
    his1n-
    Addicted
    Addicted

    Posts : 182
    Reputation : 0
    Join date : 2012-01-23
    Age : 27
    Location : Germany

    Re: Pure Pyromancer

    Post by his1n- on Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:34 pm

    I always run around with 40-56 poise, never more, if then less; ... and I can't confirm.

    Gwyn gets stunned from everything, every boss gets stunned from everything.
    Pick an Estoc and pierce the *** of Smough for long enough, eventually he will wiggle in fear for a second.
    I fought Gwyn with daggers and he got stunned every now and then...


    Last edited by his1n- on Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:35 pm; edited 1 time in total
    avatar
    cloudyeki
    Compulsory Poster
    Compulsory Poster

    Posts : 3685
    Reputation : 101
    Join date : 2012-03-19
    Age : 25
    Location : Cali

    Re: Pure Pyromancer

    Post by cloudyeki on Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:35 pm

    I think what we're getting confused about is stun vs stunlock. Because stunlock means repeatedly hitting, or in this case casting, and keeping the person stunned.

    As for the comparison, it's range is the range of a bandit's knife R1, and it's still avoidable at that range.


    _________________
    Spoiler:

    Props to BindMind for the sig!
    avatar
    his1n-
    Addicted
    Addicted

    Posts : 182
    Reputation : 0
    Join date : 2012-01-23
    Age : 27
    Location : Germany

    Re: Pure Pyromancer

    Post by his1n- on Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:37 pm

    I think what we're

    I ask you to not use the word "we" so all-kindly, I wrote 10 posts ago stun=|=stunlock.


    _________________
    aka his1nightmare,
    the one who backstabbed 1337 disbelievers for the sake of the Daughters of Chaos.
    avatar
    cloudyeki
    Compulsory Poster
    Compulsory Poster

    Posts : 3685
    Reputation : 101
    Join date : 2012-03-19
    Age : 25
    Location : Cali

    Re: Pure Pyromancer

    Post by cloudyeki on Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:42 pm

    his1n- wrote:
    I think what we're

    I ask you to not use the word "we" so all-kindly, I wrote 10 posts ago stun=|=stunlock.

    Oi, no need to be snippy

    Anyways, lets stay on the topic of actual builds focused around Pyromancy. No need to get into an argument over something like the use of a single spell.


    _________________
    Spoiler:

    Props to BindMind for the sig!
    avatar
    his1n-
    Addicted
    Addicted

    Posts : 182
    Reputation : 0
    Join date : 2012-01-23
    Age : 27
    Location : Germany

    Re: Pure Pyromancer

    Post by his1n- on Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:46 pm

    All I asked for is the confirmation of Blade of the Sun's post, since I would guess he's wrong.

    Elseway it was never my intention of turning the thread into a different direction, sorry if I helped it to happen.


    _________________
    aka his1nightmare,
    the one who backstabbed 1337 disbelievers for the sake of the Daughters of Chaos.
    avatar
    mugenis4real
    Insomniac
    Insomniac

    Posts : 1213
    Reputation : 77
    Join date : 2012-03-14
    Age : 23
    Location : NYC

    Re: Pure Pyromancer

    Post by mugenis4real on Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:57 pm

    Will sometimes stun but wont stunlock. Really great for ganking...if your in to that sort of thing of course.
    avatar
    his1n-
    Addicted
    Addicted

    Posts : 182
    Reputation : 0
    Join date : 2012-01-23
    Age : 27
    Location : Germany

    Re: Pure Pyromancer

    Post by his1n- on Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:59 pm

    Perfect.
    Thanks.


    _________________
    aka his1nightmare,
    the one who backstabbed 1337 disbelievers for the sake of the Daughters of Chaos.
    avatar
    Blade of The Sun
    Addicted
    Addicted

    Posts : 208
    Reputation : 4
    Join date : 2012-04-09
    Location : Kiln of the first Flame.

    Re: Pure Pyromancer

    Post by Blade of The Sun on Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:03 pm

    lol! People amaze me. What makes his word more trustworthy? Just curious?


    _________________
    A soul, pure and true.
    It enters the valley of corruption, with nothing but faith and a freind.
    It walks among the pained, unable to help their wretched souls as they suffer on.
    It finds solace in the fact that it is at least trying.
    It then feels it can no longer take their pains without the power to end them.
    and so, it takes on a demon soul, and becomes not a fair and pure maiden, but a lost executioner who finds peace in helping the pained pass on from this life.
    avatar
    his1n-
    Addicted
    Addicted

    Posts : 182
    Reputation : 0
    Join date : 2012-01-23
    Age : 27
    Location : Germany

    Re: Pure Pyromancer

    Post by his1n- on Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:07 pm

    It's in no way more worth than yours, it's just that his word underlines mine, yours does not.
    His words rather make me believe more in the fact that I am right than you being wrong, while -my- word is more trustworthy to me than anyone else's, you understand?


    Last edited by his1n- on Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:15 pm; edited 1 time in total
    avatar
    mugenis4real
    Insomniac
    Insomniac

    Posts : 1213
    Reputation : 77
    Join date : 2012-03-14
    Age : 23
    Location : NYC

    Re: Pure Pyromancer

    Post by mugenis4real on Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:08 pm

    Blade of The Sun wrote:lol! People amaze me. What makes his word more trustworthy? Just curious?

    You have a point, I could just be lying to gain his trust and then invite him out on a date.

    Sponsored content

    Re: Pure Pyromancer

    Post by Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:54 pm