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    Re: Respecting invaders?

    Post by disapearow on Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:28 pm

    how many players can there be in a host's world including the host?

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    Re: Respecting invaders?

    Post by User on Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:33 pm

    5. As far as I know, 5. For gravelords only.

    Three blue phantoms, one gravelord, one darkwraith.
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    Re: Respecting invaders?

    Post by Rynoa on Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:02 pm

    Yarxov wrote:
    Rynoa wrote:Lvl 398 if I understand the souls math.
    As an invaded, you get 50% of the souls the invader needs for his next level, so he needs 1.786.000 which should be level 398?

    (I'm going by the Future Press guide)
    I was the invader.
    Whats the formula for that?

    As an invader you should get 10%?
    So max level big grin

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    Re: Respecting invaders?

    Post by disapearow on Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:14 pm

    Forum Pirate wrote:
    disapearow wrote:yea.. but playing offline is boring compared... i'm just saying if u invade some 1 u shouldnt expect any favours at all invaders are the smartest toughest most dangerous and highest paying enemies..

    I lied, as I missed this.

    So your arguement is that you want random invasions for the thrill of it, but if that random is looking for duels and bows to you, gank them? The invader isn't expecting favors, a lot of the time they just want a DUEL and BOW to make that intent clear.

    The ones that bow are not trying to "invade your house", they're trying to step into the ring, and you're greeting them by attempting to blow their head off as they duck the ropes out of some misplaced territorial bs.

    thats what u get if u step into my ring ***** bring your wog or go home punk lol

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    Re: Respecting invaders?

    Post by disapearow on Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:16 pm

    if u want fair fight ask to be summoned if not get ready for war that's how it goes
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    Re: Respecting invaders?

    Post by Railage on Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:29 pm

    lextune wrote:
    Yarxov wrote:
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    No to mention we, (Darkwraiths that is), invade up.

    We might just as easily run into someone only 4 or 5 levels above us, or someone two or three hundred levels above us.

    Related:
    Kicked a host off the bridge in New Londo yesterday during our fight, (which I was losing silly ), with my level 75 DW and much to my surprise I received 86,095 souls, lol. Which puts him at level 302.

    sl 65 invaded in the Painted world, the kill gave me About 890,000....O.O
    What sl could he possible be?

    Somewhere in the 600's I'd guess ..... we only have the chart up to the 300's.

    Those people have to be old drgaon-head glitch toons I imagine....how the hell else can someone level up that high? Lol.

    I've actually ran into boosters.

    Host summons two RSS phantoms and they kill each other over and over again..


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    Re: Respecting invaders?

    Post by Yarxov on Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:49 am

    That's really really messed up :\ I'd kill them all just to punish their noobishness.


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    Re: Respecting invaders?

    Post by Dubscythe on Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:59 am

    I just got done dueling with someone who invaded.

    I was in Anor Londo and Knight Solaire Phantom caught him from behind, I banished the phantom and allowed him to heal.

    I ended up winning a close duel, and GGs were exchanged. I will respect invaders as long as they don't try anything funny.


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    Re: Respecting invaders?

    Post by Extertionist on Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:05 am

    I show respect if they show respect. Invading is part of the game, no need to make it a bad part of the game.


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    Re: Respecting invaders?

    Post by Yarxov on Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:31 am

    Rynoa wrote:
    As an invader you should get 10%?
    So max level big grin
    Definately a glitcher though, He actually HID from me xD
    Then he turtled behind a GShoA with a Lightning Katana (Lol)
    He was being irritating so I BSed him twice for the win..

    My victory was short lived, he reset his timer. then sat on the Bridge, as soon as I spawned he spammed CSS and SS (About 6 CSS). All missed lol so I just jumped. I don't do well in slugfests.


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    Re: Respecting invaders?

    Post by True King Doran on Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:07 am

    Hey everybody on this thread, you just restored my love of this game. I've been pvping in the forest lately at SL120, and have been getting ganked non-stop as both an invader and a host (i try to not summon phantoms so invaders don't feel the need to be cheap). After an hour and a half of being killed non-stop.... I gave in. WoG, TWoP, Phantoms, lagstabs, backstab fishing. Idk what came over me, but i just said screw it and wanted to kill everyone. If anyone bowed to me first, though, i backed off and let my phantom fight them 1v1, so i kept a modicum of sanity. Still, though, to anyone i *** over earlier today as Alakazam_827, I am damn sorry.


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    Re: Respecting invaders?

    Post by GkMrBane on Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:41 am

    True King Doran wrote:Hey everybody on this thread, you just restored my love of this game. I've been pvping in the forest lately at SL120, and have been getting ganked non-stop as both an invader and a host (i try to not summon phantoms so invaders don't feel the need to be cheap). After an hour and a half of being killed non-stop.... I gave in. WoG, TWoP, Phantoms, lagstabs, backstab fishing. Idk what came over me, but i just said screw it and wanted to kill everyone. If anyone bowed to me first, though, i backed off and let my phantom fight them 1v1, so i kept a modicum of sanity. Still, though, to anyone i *** over earlier today as Alakazam_827, I am damn sorry.

    True King dude are seriously in tally as well..

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    Re: Respecting invaders?

    Post by Tolvo on Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:47 am

    While what you did was pretty bad, it's human to react like that from time to time. I know after dealing with a bad group of gankers once I just threw caution to the wind and stated, "The next guy I invade, I kill."

    I ended up invading a low level who had pretty poor gear, as well he had never PvP'ed before and I just ran up and killed him, gave him a terrible experience. Afterwards I felt bad, sent him a message, talked with him and then actually dropped my sign and helped him kill Sif. Every now and then we have our dark moments, but if we can spring back from them that's what matters if you ask me.

    But if you feel hurt, I understand if you respond to players in that way. As I said, it's very human. But that typically means its time to take a break from the game and relax.
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    Re: Respecting invaders?

    Post by True King Doran on Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:27 pm

    @MrBane, yeah i'm in Tally but only for like three more days until finals are over hahah what about you??? i'd love to talk Dark Souls with someone but the only person I know who plays it is my friends sisters boyfriend lol, and i don't know him too well.

    @Tolvo, thanks. I know what i did was pretty effed up, i just wanted to try to redeem myself so if anyone invades me again they don't think i'm a true ganker. I think it was just an overall bad day, i failed a final probably and usually having some nice duels in Dark Souls makes me feel better, but that morning it was just not in the cards. I plan on not doing this anymore though lol


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    Re: Respecting invaders?

    Post by GkMrBane on Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:41 pm

    True King Doran wrote:@MrBane, yeah i'm in Tally but only for like three more days until finals are over hahah what about you??? i'd love to talk Dark Souls with someone but the only person I know who plays it is my friends sisters boyfriend lol, and i don't know him too well.

    @Tolvo, thanks. I know what i did was pretty effed up, i just wanted to try to redeem myself so if anyone invades me again they don't think i'm a true ganker. I think it was just an overall bad day, i failed a final probably and usually having some nice duels in Dark Souls makes me feel better, but that morning it was just not in the cards. I plan on not doing this anymore though lol



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    Post by Odinbear on Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:58 pm

    Respecting invaders? Watch a lot of youtube videos? some but not a lot of bowing going on. As far as I understand it, gameplay is ... the invader is there to KILL YOU, you (especially if co-oping are trying to get to the BOSS FIGHT before dieing or you can turn and fight.) 3 on one can be fun if the invader is HIGH LEVEL. The Phantoms jobs should be trying to escort you to the BOSS GATE especially if you are LOW LEVEL, killing the invader if possible but not making it the priority unless the HOST heads for the invader of course. I think the GAMEPLAY indicates NO RESPECT it's a FIGHT or DIE situation in this UNDEAD LAND and the NPC invaders don't bow (they might be easy, but they are relentless)


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    Re: Respecting invaders?

    Post by Robotech on Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:00 pm

    Imo, yes you should respect invaders, it is part of the game so you have to accept it as it is. However if they show that they dont deserve it, kill them by any means possible even if the method u use is considered unethical by the community. As an example the things that make me stop showing respect is the following:

    -i bow, they dont bow or they emote Well What is it as a reply
    -if they attack/bs you while you buff or bow
    -if they lurk in corners and dont show themselves to fight fair
    -if they engage you while you are fighting some mob
    -if a 2nd invader comes and they dont wait their turn and gang u
    -they run behind mobs a/o run away from the fight and hide
    -they pop humanities (heal miracle is ok if not done behind mobs)
    -i clearly step away from the fight and let my ghost fight the invader
    1v1 but still they come for me (this means they want to farm me,
    rather than have a fun fight)

    All other things like masked tanks, griefers, twop or any other miracle/spell is ok for me since all can be countered by a good player and if i cant dodge these tricks it means i was not worthy and i deserve to lose and accept my defeat. Just my idea on the subject Proper Bow

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    Post by Odinbear on Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:07 pm

    I've beed invited into UNDEAD PARISH, sl30's by 2 Japanese players (one host, one phantom) who dropped prism stones leading to themselves and just waited for the Invasion (vengence came), the Invader came in swinging. Also got invited into another game at the bonfire near the sunlight alter (under red dragon) and the Invader closed the GATE as we ran towards the church. (then taunted us from the other side) LOL
    What a game!!! I LOVE IT. Invaders will receive no respect from this player especially since the playing pool is worldwide and not everyone signed that constitution. DOES THIS UNDEAD WORLD even have a GOVERNMENT?


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    Post by Odinbear on Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:12 pm

    Robotech wrote:
    -if they lurk in corners and dont show themselves to fight fair
    -if they engage you while you are fighting some mob
    Proper Bow


    I respect what you say but Isn't one of the characters a THIEF (sneaky, backstabbing thief? )
    AND the character that starts with nothing but a CLUB would HAVE NO MORALS (in an undead world) - MIGHT USE ENVIRONMENT TO ADVANTAGE as he could be low level and HIS ONLY goal is to KILL YOU.

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    Post by Odinbear on Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:14 pm

    what is a Griefer?


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    Re: Respecting invaders?

    Post by Tolvo on Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:15 pm

    A person in an online environment who plays in a manner that causes others to have a negative experience, and intentionally tries to ruin the experiences of others.
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    Re: Respecting invaders?

    Post by Forum Pirate on Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:23 pm

    DKS isn't really an rpg. Its a 3d dungeon crawler with rpg and hack & slash elements.


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    Post by Odinbear on Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:41 pm

    KILLING ME always makes my experience BAD (lol) Now I gotta Pick myself up and trudge on back to pickup my humanity and souls (ugh)
    what could be worse?


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    Re: Respecting invaders?

    Post by Robotech on Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:00 pm

    [/quote]
    I respect what you say but Isn't one of the characters a THIEF (sneaky, backstabbing thief? )
    AND the character that starts with nothing but a CLUB would HAVE NO MORALS (in an undead world) - MIGHT USE ENVIRONMENT TO ADVANTAGE as he could be low level and HIS ONLY goal is to KILL YOU.

    -RPG Role Playing Game big grin [/quote]

    Well i would tolerate such behaviour i.e. from patches who is a NON player character and his role in the game is to support the lore of having a sneaky liar who tricks you and drops you in pits etc but we all know that player characters who act like this dont do it for supporting the game's theme or lore ...for sure!
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    Re: Respecting invaders?

    Post by GkMrBane on Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:05 pm

    Well if you want to get that serious then only Mages should wear robes and be the only ones to cast spells and they cant wear heavy armor.

    It’s like a ingame stereotype


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