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    Sorcerer boss nuke setup

    Post by RedCataclysm on Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:06 pm

    It might be old news to alot of you fellas out there, and this setup only works for NG+ or atleast after you have gotten your hands on Tin Crystallization Ctlyst.

    - Tin Crystallization Catalyst 
    - Dusk Cown Ring 
    - Red Tearstone Ring

    The Tin Crystal catalyst halvles your sorcery castings, but delivers the most dmg.

    The dusk crown ring gives back the sorcery castings that you lost by equiping the catalyst, but halves your HP.

    The red tearstone ring boost your dmg scaling from 50% to 150% extra dmg, when you are below 20% HP.

    Now you might think that halving your HP by 50% is a bad thing, and for new players it might be, but it doesn't really matter, because before each boss fight, you gotta lose HP so that you have under 20% hp left, for the RTR to work.

    I find this to be extremely efficient. (I've 3hit Gwyn (not in NG+) and pretty much downed any boss at first try withing a minute (with exeptions).

    This is something I picked up from Ubergusmage on youtube while watching his 'sorcerer speedrun in a nutshell' vid, which I recommend people to watch.
    The only thing I've added myself is the Dusk Crown Ring which I find usefull since 
    halving my sorcery castings sometimes leaves me with no other choise than bashing away with my moonlight greatsword (which doesn't do that much dmg to bosses imo)

    Let me know what you thinkg, if you find it helpfull or if you have any other setup that might work better for nuking down bosses as fast as possible.

    PS: It is strongly adviced that this setup is not used unless you are good at evading every potential damage.
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    Re: Sorcerer boss nuke setup

    Post by Zeta Prime on Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:29 pm

    It's solid but you could always add the dragoncrest ring.. u know.. if you wanna vaporize your enemies
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    Re: Sorcerer boss nuke setup

    Post by reim0027 on Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:03 pm

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=153206789898587719

    Now, go get cursed. You can have RTSR and PW active and not die (lose only 7 HP or so). Nothing stronger. 1 CSS will do over 1800 HP to Manus on NG. A Pursuers/CSS combo will almost obliterate Arty. You can OHK Snorlax and Pikachu. Your composite bow will do over 400 damage (with the RTSR active, not PW).


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    Re: Sorcerer boss nuke setup

    Post by StiffNipples on Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:46 pm

    Do a youtube search for 'hypermage testing', I put up a few vids that show what sort of damage you can get out of a properly set up hypermage.

    You really have to have placed the Lordvessel before it comes into it's own, but even using the Oolacile Catalyst and the early Soul Arrows you can still do lots of damage.

    The main points are:

    Be less than 11vit
    Be Cursed
    Use Dusk's Crown Ring
    Use Dusk's Crown
    Use RTS Ring
    Use the SoA to get you down into RTS range
    Cast Power Within
    If you have Sanctus, switch to it now and you won't lose health
    Go around and obliterate things, you can 1 shot most bosses through NG+.

    For a less sustainable build, but one that does more damage, swap out Dusk's Crown Ring for Bellowing Dragoncrest Ring.


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    Re: Sorcerer boss nuke setup

    Post by reim0027 on Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:17 pm

    It is so powerful, it is addicting.


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    Re: Sorcerer boss nuke setup

    Post by Zeta Prime on Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:07 pm

    Iv never done it before seems kinda tempting I totally forgot about the curse/sanctus/power within
    one day I gotta try it


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    Re: Sorcerer boss nuke setup

    Post by reim0027 on Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:18 am

    Try it. It is one of my favorite coop builds.


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    Re: Sorcerer boss nuke setup

    Post by RedCataclysm on Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:45 am

    This is the strangest thing, I saved dusk of oolacile after defeating the golden crystal golem, but there was no body to be found, so I couldn't loot crown of dusk : /
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    Re: Sorcerer boss nuke setup

    Post by Green__Eagle on Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:47 am

    Go back to where you fought the Gold Golem; her clothes should be there. That set has high curse resistance.


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    Re: Sorcerer boss nuke setup

    Post by RedCataclysm on Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:05 pm

    Yeah well I fought the hydrah, killed the golden golem and talked to dusk of oolacile. Then I returned to the dukes archives and killed the golem there for the pendant. Returned and found a portal, but nothing else. Maybe I have to log in and out again.

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    Re: Sorcerer boss nuke setup

    Post by RedCataclysm on Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:42 pm

    Oh and btw, I kinda have 50 vit. Am I screwed?
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    Re: Sorcerer boss nuke setup

    Post by befowler on Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:57 pm

    No, I have a high vit, 50 int mage build that does just fine with only the bellowing ring, dark sun crown (I don't like the dusk crown magic defense gimp), and Logan's catalyst.  I also avoid TCC because of half castings, which in coop can be an issue.  Keep people away from you with DB, and then shoot them in the back with a CSS as they flee.  Folks take extra damage if they are running and also shot in the back, it's usually a OHKO even at sl99-120.  You can also throw on power within or RTSR but it's overkill.


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    Re: Sorcerer boss nuke setup

    Post by Back Lot Basher on Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:18 pm

    reim0027 wrote:http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=153206789898587719

    Now, go get cursed.  You can have RTSR and PW active and not die (lose only 7 HP or so).  Nothing stronger.  1 CSS will do over 1800 HP to Manus on NG.  A Pursuers/CSS combo will almost obliterate Arty.  You can OHK Snorlax and Pikachu.  Your composite bow will do over 400 damage (with the RTSR active, not PW).
    Reim, I have a question...your build stops at SL81; is there any particular reason?
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    Re: Sorcerer boss nuke setup

    Post by reim0027 on Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:29 pm

    Didn't need any more points. I like to stop in the low 80's because I get goo action in the Township. Oh, and I forgot, equip the Sanctus when you do the PW trick.

    The Avelyn is invaluable here too.


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    Re: Sorcerer boss nuke setup

    Post by RedCataclysm on Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:44 pm

    I hate to ask where I get the sanctus, as I don't like to ask where to get stuff as it's part of the exploring, but I'm in NG++ now and have explored pretty much everything.

    Just give me a hint of where it could be, and I'll do the search:)
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    Re: Sorcerer boss nuke setup

    Post by reim0027 on Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:54 pm

    You have to kill someone who has it.


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    Post by StiffNipples on Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:37 am

    Place Lordvessel and be human somewhere very dark.


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    Post by Green__Eagle on Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:14 am

    You need to be in human form, too. I bet you ran past this NPCs spawn point while hollow.


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    Re: Sorcerer boss nuke setup

    Post by RedCataclysm on Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:18 am

    Then I'm guessing it's right before the nito fight. I was human there once, and a certain paladin invaded. I had ran through the whole tomb of the giants skipping every mob and wasn't keen on running back to search for him, so I waited, but no-one showed.
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    Re: Sorcerer boss nuke setup

    Post by Back Lot Basher on Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:59 pm

    StiffNipples wrote:The main points are:

    Be less than 11vit
    Be Cursed
    Use Dusk's Crown Ring
    Use Dusk's Crown
    Use RTS Ring
    Use the SoA to get you down into RTS range
    Cast Power Within
    If you have Sanctus, switch to it now and you won't lose health
    Go around and obliterate things, you can 1 shot most bosses through NG+.
    I was just curious, what is the thinking behind keeping vitality under 11?  (As opposed to say, running it up to 40...is it just for the challenge?)
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    Post by reim0027 on Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:08 pm

    Back Lot Basher wrote:
    StiffNipples wrote:The main points are:

    Be less than 11vit
    Be Cursed
    Use Dusk's Crown Ring
    Use Dusk's Crown
    Use RTS Ring
    Use the SoA to get you down into RTS range
    Cast Power Within
    If you have Sanctus, switch to it now and you won't lose health
    Go around and obliterate things, you can 1 shot most bosses through NG+.
    I was just curious, what is the thinking behind keeping vitality under 11?  (As opposed to say, running it up to 40...is it just for the challenge?)
    PW takes a % off of health. Sanctus regenerates at a fixed rate. Vitality of 11 (cursed, dusk ring) balances these out to the point where PW won't kill you with the RTSR active.


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    Re: Sorcerer boss nuke setup

    Post by RedCataclysm on Wed Sep 11, 2013 11:46 am

    Ok I didn't find any other posts about this matter, so I'll just ask here. Anyone interrested in helping me out with artorias? I'm sick of being stuck here as I can't seem to beat him. It's not that I can't learn his pattern, but he is too god damn fast. He leaves few rooms open for healing and he dodge nearly all of my spells.
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    Re: Sorcerer boss nuke setup

    Post by Back Lot Basher on Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:00 pm

    reim0027 wrote:
    Back Lot Basher wrote:
    StiffNipples wrote:The main points are:

    Be less than 11vit
    Be Cursed
    Use Dusk's Crown Ring
    Use Dusk's Crown
    Use RTS Ring
    Use the SoA to get you down into RTS range
    Cast Power Within
    If you have Sanctus, switch to it now and you won't lose health
    Go around and obliterate things, you can 1 shot most bosses through NG+.
    I was just curious, what is the thinking behind keeping vitality under 11?  (As opposed to say, running it up to 40...is it just for the challenge?)
    PW takes a % off of health.  Sanctus regenerates at a fixed rate.  Vitality of 11 (cursed, dusk ring) balances these out to the point where PW won't kill you with the RTSR active.
    Cool.  Thanks for the info.  In really need to try this.
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    Re: Sorcerer boss nuke setup

    Post by reim0027 on Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:37 pm

    You should try it. It is soooooo powerful it is addicting.


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    Re: Sorcerer boss nuke setup

    Post by reim0027 on Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:38 pm

    RedCataclysm wrote:Ok I didn't find any other posts about this matter, so I'll just ask here. Anyone interrested in helping me out with artorias? I'm sick of being stuck here as I can't seem to beat him. It's not that I can't learn his pattern, but he is too god damn fast. He leaves few rooms open for healing and he dodge nearly all of my spells.
    You should post in the Trading and Player Help forum. Leave your SL, platform, and what time you'll be on.


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