How to counter TWoP w/ Pursuers?

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    How to counter TWoP w/ Pursuers?

    Post by Lmaousine on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:17 pm

    I need help so I don't get destroyed by this combo.

    Example Scenario: I'm farming chunks at Kiln, an invader invades. First thing he does is cast TWoP, I'm caught in his range, now I'm walking. Suddenly, he casts Pursuers, oh god oh god I'm so screwed. What can I do to counter this?
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    Re: How to counter TWoP w/ Pursuers?

    Post by Serious_Much on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:18 pm

    My advice would be shut your eyes, tap your red shoes together three times and chant "There's no place like home" repeatedly


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    Re: How to counter TWoP w/ Pursuers?

    Post by Maneater_Mildred on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:25 pm

    high magic defense &/or high magic defense shield.

    other option is to learn what it looks like when they cast that spell(TWoP) and run for you life till it runs out.

    or if you have the dlc get the silver pendant.... cheers


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    Re: How to counter TWoP w/ Pursuers?

    Post by DigitaLinsanitY on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:32 pm

    Maneater_Mildred wrote:high magic defense &/or high magic defense shield.

    other option is to learn what it looks like when they cast that spell(TWoP) and run for you life till it runs out.

    or if you have the dlc get the silver pendant....

    This... best just not get caught in it all together. You should see it coming from a mile away. If they are close to you when casting... bs punish.


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    Re: How to counter TWoP w/ Pursuers?

    Post by Ghadis_God on Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:47 pm

    Run away until TWoP runs out, it shouldn't take too long.


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    Re: How to counter TWoP w/ Pursuers?

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:07 pm

    If you get caught in it I can't say much but to die with pride. TWoP lasts about ten seconds so the best option in most cases it to stay away from the range which is thankfully shown when it is cast. With pursuers I would say to stay away like the like but if you can risk it you should dodge into them when they are clustered to get rid of them. You should get away with no damage and by the time the invader cast another pursuer, TWoP should be done. Now if you can deal a lot of damage and perhaps break the invader's poise I say charge an heavy attack when the invader is casting TWoP.


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    Re: How to counter TWoP w/ Pursuers?

    Post by Animaaal on Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:16 pm

    I would:

    -Cast Strong Magic Shield.

    -Hot-swap to elf ears and BDC Ring.

    -Use Power Within if I had it.

    -Cast Dark Bead or Black Flame in their face to freak them out or kill them. Depends on their soul level of course.

    OR

    -Cast Strong Magic Shield on a Darkhand (its practically invisible).

    -Tank the Pursuers.

    -Parry, because you know they'll freak out and spam R1.
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    Re: How to counter TWoP w/ Pursuers?

    Post by RANT on Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:32 pm

    run away, if they go on their knees then run away, it lasts about 30 secs.


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    Re: How to counter TWoP w/ Pursuers?

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:05 pm

    RANT wrote:run away, if they go on their knees then run away, it lasts about 30 secs.

    This is what I do, never trust a miracle caster. Especially if they're in Havel's.

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    Re: How to counter TWoP w/ Pursuers?

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:09 pm

    I don't think TWoP last 30 seconds now. But still avoiding it is a good idea to do.


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    Re: How to counter TWoP w/ Pursuers?

    Post by The_Red_Drifter on Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:57 pm

    Great Magic Barrier/Strong Magic Shield/Havel's Shield/Stone Greatshield/Vow of Silence/hope Crest Shield can take it (no idea if it's viable or not, I generally don't get caught in TWoP with my Dex/Pyro).
    I'm still haven't figured out what would work for non Int/Faith/Strength builds, since I almost never block magic.
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    Re: How to counter TWoP w/ Pursuers?

    Post by reim0027 on Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:42 pm

    If you are already caught in it, then put on a Crest shield and block. If not, then run away until the effect is worn off.


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    Re: How to counter TWoP w/ Pursuers?

    Post by Tolvo on Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:43 pm

    Havel's Shield! cheers
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    Re: How to counter TWoP w/ Pursuers?

    Post by Lmaousine on Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:43 pm

    Wow, these sound great, but does the ring of fog still work?


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    Re: How to counter TWoP w/ Pursuers?

    Post by Ghadis_God on Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:49 pm

    It will still go off if they're close enough to catch you in TWoP I think. Very helpful against Pursuers in general but not TWoP.


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    Re: How to counter TWoP w/ Pursuers?

    Post by Saturday-Saint on Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:15 pm

    If you get caught in TWoP and it isn't about to run out, your only real option is to hope they suck. If they suck you can try to parry them, back up against a wall, w/e.


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    Re: How to counter TWoP w/ Pursuers?

    Post by goober0331 on Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:42 pm

    Why has nobody suggested the Silver Pendent?
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    Re: How to counter TWoP w/ Pursuers?

    Post by reim0027 on Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:00 am

    LOL. Too simple. It will work for new gankers, but the good ones will have CSS too. O will attack you when you do the Silver Pendant.


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    Re: How to counter TWoP w/ Pursuers?

    Post by RANT on Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:01 am

    what reim said, as soon as they see you do the pendant animation you're most likely gonna take a css to the face.


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    Re: How to counter TWoP w/ Pursuers?

    Post by Jansports on Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:36 am

    If I couldn't get away from the TwoP and was already stuck in it, I tend to just 2h whatever I'm holding and Hope I break their poise before too many spells hit me in the face. Usually since TWoP doesn't last very long you can get away after a single stagger
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    Re: How to counter TWoP w/ Pursuers?

    Post by Seignar on Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:21 am

    There are 4 ways to go about it:

    1) You cast Strong Magic Shield and laugh.
    2) You cast Hidden Body and chuckle.
    3) You cast Great Magic Barrier and laugh.
    4) YOU DIE

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    Re: How to counter TWoP w/ Pursuers?

    Post by Saturday-Saint on Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:57 am

    Seignar wrote:There are 4 ways to go about it:

    1) You cast Strong Magic Shield and die.
    2) You cast Hidden Body and die.
    3) You cast Great Magic Barrier and die.
    4) YOU DIE

    Welcome to die.


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    Re: How to counter TWoP w/ Pursuers?

    Post by Animaaal on Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:26 pm

    Saturday-Saint wrote:
    Seignar wrote:There are 4 ways to go about it:

    1) You cast Strong Magic Shield and die.
    2) You cast Hidden Body and die.
    3) You cast Great Magic Barrier and die.
    4) YOU DIE

    Welcome to die.

    The only thing you'll die from with that is DA WoG. Most people have 18 faith for TWoP and do not go to 28 for WoG.

    However, if they do (not a great chance), then you might...

    5) You died from the ugliest mutha%$#@er in the game. sick

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    Re: How to counter TWoP w/ Pursuers?

    Post by goober0331 on Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:31 pm

    reim0027 wrote:LOL. Too simple. It will work for new gankers, but the good ones will have CSS too. O will attack you when you do the Silver Pendant.

    Not really.

    Either CSS will be cast right as Pursuers tracks, or it will be cast as a reaction to the pendants use.

    Then depending on the lag, you should be able to get a shield up in time to stop some damage from the CSS.

    Silver Pendant doesnt have a long animation time, so it does boil down to what your opponent does.

    But then again if their already casting TwoP and Pursuers then you shouldnt get your hopes up.
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    Re: How to counter TWoP w/ Pursuers?

    Post by SadPanda on Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:17 pm

    Hidden body. A few points into intelligence is enough to counter douchey pursuer users.

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