Random Off-Topic

Tehdoomgrasp wrote:In dragons dogma is just to boring for me. And Magic archer just did not work for me... I tried but just did not enjoy the homing thing, a little thing i just disliked.

Serious_Much wrote:Dark souls magic is balanced too (Don't give that pvp crap, it was designed for PvE, end of story)

Dibsville wrote:

Serious_Much wrote:Dark souls magic is balanced too (Don't give that pvp crap, it was designed for PvE, end of story)

Watch a Sorcerer speed run.

Serious_Much wrote:

Dibsville wrote:

Serious_Much wrote:Dark souls magic is balanced too (Don't give that pvp crap, it was designed for PvE, end of story)

Watch a Sorcerer speed run.

So what?

Everyone knows that dark souls is entirely equipment based firstly.

This guy is using end game standard equipment to maximise damage output, playing in hypermode which takes a lot of skill and mauling bosses with the result. Using end game equipment and complaining it's as a result is too good is ridiculous.

i mean come on dibs, you could do pretty much the same with a hypermode lightning/chaos weapon user and get dumb damage. Not like it's exclusive to sorcerer

Dibsville wrote:

Serious_Much wrote:Dibs- thats why I said long as it's balanced. I mean what's your issue with it if magic is balanced? I mean you can have a lot of casts and a system still be balanced after all

There is no game in history where magic is balanced.
It is either too good or too weak. And if you can give me an example of a game where it is balanced, I will prove to you that there are ways of making it extremely overpowered.

I can change my opinions easily, but saying that you support balanced magic is an empty statement that CAN NOT be backed up. Ever. Magic can not be balanced in a game whatsoever. There will ALWAYS be a way to make it overpowered, and even underpowered magic can be exploited for unbalanced use.

KrazykevS10 wrote:

Dibsville wrote:

Serious_Much wrote:Dibs- thats why I said long as it's balanced. I mean what's your issue with it if magic is balanced? I mean you can have a lot of casts and a system still be balanced after all

There is no game in history where magic is balanced.
It is either too good or too weak. And if you can give me an example of a game where it is balanced, I will prove to you that there are ways of making it extremely overpowered.

I can change my opinions easily, but saying that you support balanced magic is an empty statement that CAN NOT be backed up. Ever. Magic can not be balanced in a game whatsoever. There will ALWAYS be a way to make it overpowered, and even underpowered magic can be exploited for unbalanced use.

I was going to say Skyrim but it's actually underpowered there.A melee smith can outdamage the best spell in one hit.

Tehdoomgrasp wrote:There should be another thread discussing game mechanics generally, as it seems it´s an issue that many have opinions on.

Dibsville wrote:
My point is that magic isn't balanced, I never said everything else was.

Dark Souls is completely unbalanced in terms of what you can do with the right equipment. I'm just mentioning that magic was unbalanced because the topic was on magic when I mentioned it.

KrazykevS10 wrote:That isn't an argument against a series with over 20 games.Magic in the ones I have played was useful in that it could be used against an elemental weakness but never better than a melee focused character.
And for the record,none of the games released after 10 are proper games.

Dibsville wrote:

Tehdoomgrasp wrote:There should be another thread discussing game mechanics generally, as it seems it´s an issue that many have opinions on.

Then make one.

Serious_Much wrote:

Dibsville wrote:
My point is that magic isn't balanced, I never said everything else was.

Dark Souls is completely unbalanced in terms of what you can do with the right equipment. I'm just mentioning that magic was unbalanced because the topic was on magic when I mentioned it.

I think you know the phrase "if everything is special, nothing is". It's a very widely used philosophical concept- and actually applicable here.

Everything in dark souls can be used to its potential, or as you put it it becomes unbalanced.

Thing is though, everything can be made OP pretty much due to the way dark souls is made. However, because everything is unbalanced, as a result nothing is unbalanced because there's no real differentiation, just differing levels of being unbalanced.

KrazykevS10 wrote:I didn't like 12.But 13 was so sh!t that I still haven't finished it.It's so repetitive that I want to shoot myself while playing it.