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    Post by Dibsville Sat May 18, 2013 12:07 pm

    While the flickering was there, I made a 45 DEX build, put Dark Hand as my shield, Pyro Flame off-hand, 12 ATT and two Black Flames.

    People couldn't tell whether I had my Dark Hand or Pyro glove out.

    A lot of my fights ended with me acting like I was falling back to heal, then doing a 700+ damage Black Flame.

    RTS needs nerf.


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    Post by Encore Sat May 18, 2013 12:07 pm

    Dibsville wrote:I'll go with a Bow/Crossbow, but otherwise I'm normally all melee.

    Spells are too risky, miracles are useless, and Pyromancy doesn't have very many casts.

    And yes, there are people who disagree.

    Using melee might take you up and close, but gives you a better analysis of the situation and it is easier to adapt. Get up and close to an unpreparede caster, and he is done. Have a little knowledge about miracles and they cannot do anything. Pyromancy is easy to adapt against.
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    Post by KrazykevS10 Sat May 18, 2013 12:12 pm

    Pyromancy isn't so easy to beat when it can two hit kill you,as that host and his two phantoms just found out.I have a chaos washing pole too for when I need it.This may sound like overkill at level 30 but I do have to fight people much higher than myself too.
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    Post by Encore Sat May 18, 2013 12:13 pm

    I never have problem with pryomancy, but unsurprised i guess it can be hard to survive through.
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    Post by Dibsville Sat May 18, 2013 12:14 pm

    KrazykevS10 wrote:Pyromancy isn't so easy to beat when it can two hit kill you,as that host and his two phantoms just found out.I have a chaos washing pole too for when I need it.This may sound like overkill at level 30 but I do have to fight people much higher than myself too.
    SL 1 PvP is the best PvP I've ever had.

    Also, the only people that give me problems with Pyromancy are the ones who use Chaos as well as normal, as you sometimes roll into lava...
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    Post by KrazykevS10 Sat May 18, 2013 12:17 pm

    It's tight quarters in Sen's so most people probably don't feel comfortable rolling away.I can dodge their magic just fine but that's just me.
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    Post by User1 Sat May 18, 2013 12:19 pm

    Say that to my Black Flame.
    I have got some hellish good counters with that.
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    Post by Encore Sat May 18, 2013 12:20 pm

    What do Black Flame do that is different from Great Combustion?
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    Post by User1 Sat May 18, 2013 12:21 pm

    Poise break is far better, higher stamina damage.
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    Post by Encore Sat May 18, 2013 12:22 pm

    I see... I can understand how it can be viable when enemies are hiding behind a shield..
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    Post by Dibsville Sat May 18, 2013 12:25 pm

    Black Flame tends to do slightly less damage than Great Combustion, but Black Flame breaks 60 poise and has MUCH larger stamina damage.
    If I can remember correctly, 2 or 3 Black Flames will break a Grass Crest Shield at 40 END, compared to around 4 or 5 with GC.


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    Post by KrazykevS10 Sat May 18, 2013 12:25 pm

    I don't feel like doing the DLC just for black flame.Great combustion does plenty of poise damage anyway,I don't think I need an upgrade.My new favourite spell is fire tempest.
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    Post by Dibsville Sat May 18, 2013 12:26 pm

    I do the DLC only because Artorias is the funnest fight in the game, and Manus is my third favourite boss.

    Also, Calamity Ring.
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    Post by User1 Sat May 18, 2013 12:26 pm

    Black Flame is lovely, just get it please!
    It's also a good backup if your GC runs out.
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    Post by KrazykevS10 Sat May 18, 2013 12:28 pm

    Renny™ wrote:Black Flame is lovely, just get it please!
    It's also a good backup if your GC runs out.
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    Post by Encore Sat May 18, 2013 12:30 pm

    Whenever i use it in PVP it goes well... I think both of them are luvely
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    Post by SirArchmage Sat May 18, 2013 12:38 pm

    I usually won't use spells, miracles, or pyromancy if it is a 1v1. But when there are bankers they are great. Oh, three people surrounding me? Wrath of the gods. Three people about to come around a corner? Fire tempest. Two tanks about to charge me with great swords? Pursuers and Dark bead. Plus if there is lag miracles, pyromancies, and spells become impossible to dodge all of them.
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    Post by KrazykevS10 Sat May 18, 2013 12:42 pm

    I love how a guy's response to me charging up fire tempest was to combust me in the face.A simple backstab would have ended me.(Maybe)
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    Post by nsane32 Sat May 18, 2013 12:42 pm

    there's alot of dark souls talk in the off topic right now
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    Post by KrazykevS10 Sat May 18, 2013 12:45 pm

    There is no topic for random Dark Souls discussion so here we are.Better than the usual talk methinks.
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    Post by User1 Sat May 18, 2013 12:47 pm

    I don't really like it, but there's no other subjects at hand.
    How about we speak about the texture of rocks? Or maybe the strength of rain?
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    Post by KrazykevS10 Sat May 18, 2013 12:49 pm

    Do I need to put Vader on again? Anyhow,this thread will be reset soon as we've reached page 70.
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    Post by skarekrow13 Sat May 18, 2013 12:52 pm

    Cakes. Always come back to cakes
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    Post by User1 Sat May 18, 2013 12:53 pm

    Chocolate cake is the best cake.
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    Post by Encore Sat May 18, 2013 1:01 pm

    Ice cream cakes, always ice cream cake.

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