What would 'seal the deal' for you for Dark souls II?

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    Re: What would 'seal the deal' for you for Dark souls II?

    Post by Wolfsbane on Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:35 pm

    I'm already liking those cyclopian "ninja turtles" lol no backstabbing them that's fo sho.
    Can't wait to see what else changes the way we like to play happy
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    Re: What would 'seal the deal' for you for Dark souls II?

    Post by Cartod on Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:06 pm

    A phantom NPC invader named "Chaoshander Giantdad" that does the "Well what is it?" emote if he kills you.

    I'd buy it twice.
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    Re: What would 'seal the deal' for you for Dark souls II?

    Post by Dibsville on Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:37 pm

    I have said this many times before, and I will never change my mind.
    I WANT backstabs in game, but I want them to be like they were in Demon's Souls.
    For people who don't know: Getting a backstab in Demon's Souls was well earned, as it would only do damage if the person DID NOT roll away before the animation started, this meant that lagstabs weren't really a problem.
    If this gets implemented, I'm getting it for sure. Not that I don't want to get it right away, but...


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    Re: What would 'seal the deal' for you for Dark souls II?

    Post by Forum Pirate on Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:40 pm

    The DES greataxe making a triumphant return. I'd play the game just to pound new thing to paste with it.


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    Re: What would 'seal the deal' for you for Dark souls II?

    Post by Dibsville on Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:41 pm

    Cartod wrote:A phantom NPC invader named "Chaoshander Giantdad" that does the "Well what is it?" emote if he kills you.

    I'd buy it twice.
    +1 to you, sir.


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    Re: What would 'seal the deal' for you for Dark souls II?

    Post by Dibsville on Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:42 pm

    AnCapaillMor wrote:
    Odinbear wrote:Don't think backstabs are going anywhere. Those who complain and want them gone, may want to buy another game. Lol. Learn to counter. Learn to stay at a distance. Learn patience. Grasshopper.

    Agree on keeping BSing, with no bs's you'll have everyone 2 handing a zwei and swinging like mad or spamming R2 on every heavy weapon.
    How to stop a backstab: Kick.
    Even if you have Curved Sword/Rapier, it will hit them right before the backstab, causing the glitch where you don't take damage.


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    Re: What would 'seal the deal' for you for Dark souls II?

    Post by EeAyEss on Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:44 pm

    Forum Pirate wrote:The DES greataxe making a triumphant return. I'd play the game just to pound new thing to paste with it.

    AMEN!


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    Re: What would 'seal the deal' for you for Dark souls II?

    Post by Djem on Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:25 pm

    Dibsville wrote:
    AnCapaillMor wrote:
    Odinbear wrote:Don't think backstabs are going anywhere. Those who complain and want them gone, may want to buy another game. Lol. Learn to counter. Learn to stay at a distance. Learn patience. Grasshopper.

    Agree on keeping BSing, with no bs's you'll have everyone 2 handing a zwei and swinging like mad or spamming R2 on every heavy weapon.
    How to stop a backstab: Kick.
    Even if you have Curved Sword/Rapier, it will hit them right before the backstab, causing the glitch where you don't take damage.

    That ain't no glitch. It's there to make lagstabs less of a problem.

    Also even though rolling out of a backstab was easier in DeS, starting a backstab animation by attacking someone's shoulder was also easier.
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    Re: What would 'seal the deal' for you for Dark souls II?

    Post by Jester's Tears on Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:38 pm

    Brutal Parries.
    And ''Finsih Him'' type of Parries where you get a special Animation that will land the Killing Blow.
    Example:
    -Normal Parry is the classic one (Sword to the gut)
    -FH Parry = Cut his throat and when he goes down on his knees, Go behind him and do the good'ol Slice!


    It would probably never happend But hey!

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    Re: What would 'seal the deal' for you for Dark souls II?

    Post by Dustsgr on Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:54 pm

    nothing man i bet my Balls Dark Souls 2 will rock our heads out.

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    Re: What would 'seal the deal' for you for Dark souls II?

    Post by Myztyrio on Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:55 pm

    Shindori wrote:
    Myztyrio wrote:Keeping the nature of Dark Souls.
    But with the atmosphere and feel of Demon's souls. which is exactly what it looks like to me.



    Seems so to me too. I prefer Dark Souls a bit.


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    Re: What would 'seal the deal' for you for Dark souls II?

    Post by twilightwarwolf on Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:54 pm

    id like to have no crit bonus on weps (as if they'd EVER do that)and have a crit weapon path to get one but since that isnt going to happen how about the crit bonus path? id also like the poison path back and plauge they should have that it would be great to poison toxic and plauge someone but the real thing to get me is between WAY more in game covs which give alternate endings when you beat it ( not gonna happen im sure but ill keep my hopes up if only to get them crushed later ) and if you could customize char, armor, and weapons more. i mean like changes the colors and some different types of the same armor as you upgrade it such and if your in a co you get a special one for as long as your in it. thats all just me though.


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    Re: What would 'seal the deal' for you for Dark souls II?

    Post by Odinbear on Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:38 am

    Better PVP shields. I had hella fun with the one in DS. Old monk fight, roll, shield bash, rinse, repeat. Seems none of the current shields in DkS. Bash as fast nor have any real use.


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    Re: What would 'seal the deal' for you for Dark souls II?

    Post by WandererReece on Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:37 am

    Odinbear wrote:Don't think backstabs are going anywhere. Those who complain and want them gone, may want to buy another game. Lol. Learn to counter. Learn to stay at a distance. Learn patience. Grasshopper.

    Nerfing everything you can't beat or master is not a viable solution, for me , at least.

    If they nerfed everything that players told them to nerf, then we would have almost nothing in this game. There would be no criticals, no magic, no powerful strength weapons, no fast dexterity weapons, no useful rings, no good armor, no hard enemies or bosses, and red phantoms would get 50% less defense and attack so they don't stand a chance in a 1v1 against the host.

    Basicly, the final product would be a dumbed down game that everyone would hate.

    Cartod wrote:A phantom NPC invader named "Chaoshander Giantdad" that does the "Well what is it?" emote if he kills you.
    I'm not sure if you're joking or serious, but I love that idea. I seriously think that should be in the game.


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    Re: What would 'seal the deal' for you for Dark souls II?

    Post by morte on Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:24 pm

    WandererReece wrote:
    Odinbear wrote:Don't think backstabs are going anywhere. Those who complain and want them gone, may want to buy another game. Lol. Learn to counter. Learn to stay at a distance. Learn patience. Grasshopper.

    Nerfing everything you can't beat or master is not a viable solution, for me , at least.

    If they nerfed everything that players told them to nerf, then we would have almost nothing in this game. There would be no criticals, no magic, no powerful strength weapons, no fast dexterity weapons, no useful rings, no good armor, no hard enemies or bosses, and red phantoms would get 50% less defense and attack so they don't stand a chance in a 1v1 against the host.

    Basicly, the final product would be a dumbed down game that everyone would hate.

    Cartod wrote:A phantom NPC invader named "Chaoshander Giantdad" that does the "Well what is it?" emote if he kills you.
    I'm not sure if you're joking or serious, but I love that idea. I seriously think that should be in the game.

    It would need to be a ninja-flipping, full havels/giants lightning zwiel dual wielding phantom with the mask of the father.


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    Re: What would 'seal the deal' for you for Dark souls II?

    Post by Muker on Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:56 pm

    concerning backstabs

    when you watch
    http://uk.ign.com/videos/2013/04/10/dark-souls-2-gameplay-reveal-12-minute-demo
    at 3:38 it should be a backstab right, if they were in? just saying....
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    Re: What would 'seal the deal' for you for Dark souls II?

    Post by Forum Pirate on Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:34 pm

    Lol. Not at all. That enemy is not human, or even really humanoid. You can't bs the cappa demons or the taurus demons. You cant bs snorlax and pikachu. you can't bs the berntike knights.


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    Re: What would 'seal the deal' for you for Dark souls II?

    Post by Muker on Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:12 pm

    Movesets looks like Large Club vielding ogre from B-Town. And you can backstab them.
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    Re: What would 'seal the deal' for you for Dark souls II?

    Post by morte on Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:17 pm

    Muker wrote:concerning backstabs

    when you watch
    http://uk.ign.com/videos/2013/04/10/dark-souls-2-gameplay-reveal-12-minute-demo
    at 3:38 it should be a backstab right, if they were in? just saying....

    Well, if you look at that armor, it is probably a realism mechanic, where you have so much armor that you can't get backstabbed and pierce damage in particular is reduced. It makes sense, in my mind.


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    Re: What would 'seal the deal' for you for Dark souls II?

    Post by ublug on Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:28 pm

    I just had an idea about backstabs (and ripostes). What if backstabs did % of HP damage, based on the crit stat of each weapon and max hp, kind of like bleed or fall damage? They would still scale with stats, so when you for example max out a rapier with 40 crit, it would do 40% damage to HP regardless of level, armor, etc. This way you will never be one-shot by a critical attack if you have full HP, regardless of max HP.

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    Re: What would 'seal the deal' for you for Dark souls II?

    Post by User1 on Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:36 pm

    It seems like a good idea to me, but if every attack worked in such a way, the Hornet Ring would have limited use. Fishers everywhere would revolt. silly
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    Re: What would 'seal the deal' for you for Dark souls II?

    Post by MistahrFox on Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:55 pm

    A lot of people seem to want BS's to be gone but at the 12 mins gameplay video, at the time where the PC gets killed by the turtleback guys, it looks and sounds like he died from a backstab, from those guys. Probably just my imagination but yeah.


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    Re: What would 'seal the deal' for you for Dark souls II?

    Post by Mr. Tart on Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:58 pm

    I actually don't want backstabs gone. I just want the backstab window to be smaller, and do less damage, as well as there being some kind of resistance to it.


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    Re: What would 'seal the deal' for you for Dark souls II?

    Post by User1 on Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:00 pm

    I would rather backstabs stay. They are useful on anyone who you can get behind who is either more powerful than you, or much higher hp. For those that actually need the advantage, it's an addition that should stay.
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    Post by The Letter X on Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:45 pm

    I don't wish for backstabs to stay, but if they do then oh well. I'm only hoping for bs fishers to go away since they're boring to fight against.


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