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    Post by TeeHayne Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:19 pm

    I heard that DkS2 will not take place in a Limbo like world this time, but a location when the player is still actually human. Is this true? Or will there still be the Hallowed/Human transition?
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    Post by DE5PA1R Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:23 pm

    Not sure what you mean by Limbo-like world.

    The player-character is clearly Undead. Says so right in the trailer.


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    Post by ChizFreak Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:08 pm

    Yeah, I think you got it wrong when it comes or Dark Souls.
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    Post by TeeHayne Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:07 pm

    Like I said, someone told me about it. I just wanted it clarified. I know quite a lot on Dark Souls..
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    Post by Gawain Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:10 am

    I got my money on Astora..
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    Post by dragonbeast6 Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:55 am

    Gawain wrote:I got my money on Astora..

    Im gonna add to that pool
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    Post by al0cer Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:24 am

    My money is on Carim.
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    Post by DE5PA1R Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:37 pm

    dragonbeast6 wrote:
    Gawain wrote:I got my money on Astora..

    Im gonna add to that pool

    Astora all the way.
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    Post by Serious_Much Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:48 pm

    My money is on an as of unnamed land, just to *** all you voting guys over.

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    Post by DE5PA1R Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:20 pm

    In the Edge interview, Shibuya implied that revealing the name of the area would give away important details, so we can probably assume it's been mentioned before.
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    Post by Serious_Much Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:26 pm

    DE5PA1R wrote:In the Edge interview, Shibuya implied that revealing the name of the area would give away important details, so we can probably assume it's been mentioned before.

    What if it's calld something like dragonville...

    I mean, the last one was called 'LORDran', pretty safe to assume that it could just mean their inventive name team have come up with another cracker like that?
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    Post by Buggy Virus Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:35 pm

    What? I don't understand where this rumor is from or where you could have possibly heard it from?
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    Post by Oh_the_Humanity Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:12 pm

    I was thinking Vienhelm (not sure if spelled correct)
    but its just a hunch, I have nothing to back that up.
    Anyone have a reason why it couldnt be or a reason it wouldnt make sense for DkS2 to be there?
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    Post by Gawain Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:11 am

    Im going to have to go with Astora.. It has to be one of these areas related to the Dks world...Where humans live & before becoming undead. Lordran is the land of the lords not normal humans for those that didn't already know.
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    Post by Slarg232 Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:26 am

    I thought Astora was destroyed by the Evil Eye.
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    Post by ChizFreak Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:54 am

    Slarg232 wrote:I thought Astora was destroyed by the Evil Eye.

    The Ring says the beast "assaulted" Astora, doesn't mean it destroyed it.
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    Post by DE5PA1R Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:50 pm

    Astora seems like a logical assumption if the hero from the trailer is traveling to Lordran. ENB pointed out that the concept art of Lordran in the distance is almost copy-paste what we see in the opening scene of the trailer. There are echoes of Oscar's story - a Knight of Astora, after becoming Undead, makes pilgrimage to the land of the Ancient Lords. It's been pointed out that the fur around the hero's shoulders resembles the armor of Solaire of Astora. Finally, we know from the placement of Astora's Straight Sword and Dragon Crest Shield that a high-ranking Astoran knight (maybe even 2-3) had beef with a dragon in the Valley of Drakes. So we know that Astoran knights make it a priority to travel to Lordran when they're Undead, and we also know that Astoran knights aren't overly fond of dragons.

    I really doubt that slaying dragons would be a viable goal in Vinheim. They revere Seath, grandfather of sorcery, and create items with images of dragons on them.

    Carim is viable, and the falcata (swords) seen in the trailer lends some credence to this idea.

    Catarina is somewhat viable as well, though the armor is a very different style compared to what we've seen.

    One thing we don't know is if/how these lands are physically connected to one another. Is Ash Lake a sort of universal warp point? Is Lordran at the center of everything? How did the NPCs from other lands travel to Lordran?
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    Post by Oh_the_Humanity Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:31 pm

    I can say for 100% certainty that based on my knowledge of Dks, what we see in the distance of the DkS2 trailer is not Lordran.
    I dont see how people think that. I doesnt even come close to looking like lordran. Unless its a view if Anor Londo from behind so all we can see is back of Anor Londo.
    Ive heard people say that the spiral building on the bottom left like the one in the new DLC and in PWof Arimas and that Send Fortress is right next to it on the right.
    All you have to do is picture Lordran in your mind. If that is Lordran in the trailer then where is the wall separating Anor Londo from the rest of Lordran? That wall is massive and circles around for a great distance.
    Sens Fortress is almost tucked away in the trees by the wall to Anor Londo and Dukes Archives looks nothing like that spiral building from the trailer. The only way that that city we see in the trailer is Lordran is if its either 1. like I said before just a back side view that we've never seen of Anor Londo or its some condensed version of Lordran that From put together by squishing all the buildings of Lordran into one cluster, which is not likely in my opinion.

    So what do you guys think?
    Is my info wrong?
    Is there something Im missing here?


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    Post by DE5PA1R Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:40 pm

    Check out the Dark Souls concept art vs what we see in the trailer. Almost exactly the same.

    https://youtu.be/JpS0HMzqnTQ?t=5m10s

    Also here:

    https://soulswiki.forumotion.com/t4931-dark-souls-design-works#86603

    And finally, note what Lordran would look like from the back. There's a noticeable absence of wall on the 'Northeast,' where there are mountains instead.

    https://i.imgur.com/U8t2d.jpg
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    Post by Frank_White Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:45 am

    TeeHayne wrote:I heard that DkS2 will not take place in a Limbo like world this time, but a location when the player is still actually human. Is this true? Or will there still be the Hallowed/Human transition?

    You confusing Dark Souls with Demons Souls, which basically is Purgatory/Limbo.
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    Post by Frank_White Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:59 am

    DaS2 does not take place in Lordran, nor does it tell about a journey to Lordran. Entirely standalone game in a different kingdom, that's it.
    The castle in the trailer looks absolutely nothing like Anor Londo (don't be ridiculous) and yeah it looks similar to the old art illustration but that was obviously just the early idea for what Anor Londo might look like, before they changed their mind.
    It's mind boggling how people come up with speculation like this AFTER FromSoft has stated the contrary.

    Carim is the most likely location btw, since no one in the trailer has a shield & they said the game has a mad scientist. Arstor of Carim is mad, cruel & uses his skill to create artifacts like Purging Stones out of humans, or magical rings through some dreadful experiments.
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    Post by Seignar Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:06 am

    Of the known lands: It must be either Astora due to its history with a creature known as the Evil Eye or Carim due to its dark nature; they might make it Thoruland in some extreme case, due to its relation with the undead next to Lordran.
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    Post by DE5PA1R Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:26 am

    Frank_White wrote:DaS2 does not take place in Lordran, nor does it tell about a journey to Lordran. Entirely standalone game in a different kingdom, that's it.

    Stop pretending you know these as facts. You don't.

    The castle in the trailer looks absolutely nothing like Anor Londo (don't be ridiculous) and yeah it looks similar to the old art illustration but that was obviously just the early idea for what Anor Londo might look like, before they changed their mind.

    It has already been pointed out that what we see could very well be Anor Londo from a certain angle. Read before posting.

    It's mind boggling how people come up with speculation like this AFTER FromSoft has stated the contrary.

    They haven't. You're imagining things.

    Carim is the most likely location btw, since no one in the trailer has a shield & they said the game has a mad scientist. Arstor of Carim is mad, cruel & uses his skill to create artifacts like Purging Stones out of humans, or magical rings through some dreadful experiments.

    No. The concept art is extremely western. Carim is the equivalent of the Middle East.
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    Post by Acarnatia Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:15 pm

    I'm not sure Carim has a direct real-world counterpat; rather, I think it's a mix of several. Based on the clothes and paleness (check the default Carim face in teh character creator as well as Oswald and Lautrec-those guys are pretty pale) of people from Carim. The Earl invented the shotel which is a weapon from northern Africa in our world, uses a lot of dual-wielding (nowhere that I know of in our world was known for that) and deals a lot with the nature of Sin and (this is just my own conclusion on where the occult items came from) possibly the occult gear and dark ember. Carim seems to be a mix of African, Mediterranean and EXTREMELY northern Europe. Somehow, I can see it placed as a very dark-themed Russia or as a pale-skinned Carthage.
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    Post by ClassicBlaze Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:27 pm

    The knight seems to come from Astora, but those masked assassins appear to be from Carim, since they are wielding what appears to be a Kukri and Carim is famous for having weird weapons (Shotel) and curious fighting styles (bad-*** dual wielding and no shield rules)

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