Halberds: Best PvE weapons?

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    Halberds: Best PvE weapons?

    Post by Seignar on Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:35 pm

    While many will debate over what is the best PVP weapon, I think I would like to say that I think in terms of PvE that the Halberd weapons (Gargoyle's Halberd, Black Knight Halberd and Scythe) are probably one of the best PvE weapons in expert hands.

    Allow me to explain, the Halberd weapons combine the reach of spears with the power of axes or clubs. This results in a powerful mid-ranged weapon. In addition, the moveset of the 2H consists of an upward attack that lets you hit mosquitoes and ghosts that are above you and hit crystal lizards, while the strong attack is a 360 double hit move. All the while, the jumping attack combines the natural reach with a long arc sweeping attack with little recovery.

    All this creates a weapon that can deal with all sorts of situations effectively. The R1 handles any enemy regardless of height; R2, deals with being surrounded; Jump attack, for countering. Of course, the halberds suffer from stagger on miss, which is why I mark this as an expert's weapon. People familiar with enemies will most likely never miss and can use the halberd's reach to attack from a safe distance, removing the worry of a shield while increasing power.

    These weapons also have another benefit: They don't scale well. This means that their elemental upgrade paths carry much base damage, making them stronger than most other weapons in the same path. In addition, the BKH has effective physical damage with possessing the highest AR on the base requirements and is easily and quickly upgradable.

    So...hail Halberds?

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    Re: Halberds: Best PvE weapons?

    Post by reim0027 on Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:47 pm

    I loved the Gargoyle Halberd in my early PvE runs. So powerful, especially when you went elemental.


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    Re: Halberds: Best PvE weapons?

    Post by DoughGuy on Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:05 pm

    Before the patch I would say spears were just for how easy they made the game. Cant comment now because I havent seen how the large stamina drain while turtling is.


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    Re: Halberds: Best PvE weapons?

    Post by PlasticandRage on Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:22 pm

    I've been enjoying my Zwiehander in PvE for a lot of the same reasons you listed there. It's great for crowd control, especially with higher tier poise, it's 1h R2 can hit higher enemies, and also floor humanoid ones. Even some of the larger ones actually, even stuns things like the Drakes in the valley. Great for giving you a little breathing room if you're being swarmed. I do enjoy the pole arms too though. I was actually using a halberd in the early stages of this playthrough, before I got my stats up to where I could use the Zwiehander.


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    Re: Halberds: Best PvE weapons?

    Post by The Letter X on Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:42 pm

    I don't know how many people would classify the Great Scythe and Lifehunt Scythe as halberds, but using them makes any boss or enemy in the game a cake walk. I haven't used the traditional halberds in a while, but from what I remember they were pretty good too.

    My vote is a tie between spears and halberd-esque weapons.


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    Re: Halberds: Best PvE weapons?

    Post by Kuragari on Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:35 pm

    I love the halberd weapons, my knight uses the lucerne(Lightning) and halberds are indeed excellent pve weapons.

    and the spear and the halberds aren't even close, much less tied. a spear is nice yes but, you can pretty much only hit one enemy at a time. the halberd puts aoe in your hands. i have killed many players with the lucerne, and i have also fallen many times.

    halberds are great


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    EDIT: i used the black knight halberd for a long time when i first started using halberds, great damage, but once upgraded other halberds become far more useful, the black night halberd dont have a very good heavy attack, nice to look at tho
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    Post by Automancer on Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:34 pm

    My very first character wielded the Scythe with the Black Iron Set because i just love scythes but this one was more of a halberd, which made it unique. I didn't know much about upgrades or PvP but when i first saw a lightning upgrade, i knew i had to get it. That weapon alone got me through NG+23 alone. I'm not joking. I don't use it as often now but i keep Scythes in most of my toons just in case. I've played with almost all the halberds in-game and i love them all. I recently started using the regular Halberd in PvP and it's amazing!


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    Re: Halberds: Best PvE weapons?

    Post by LunarFog on Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:58 pm

    Spear+greatshield is another great PvE weapon(combo). The ability to block almost every attack in the game while keeping enough stamina to stab back at the same time. Attacking while defending? You really can't beat that.

    I won't say it's as good at killing stuff as the halberds, but it's hands-down safer to kill stuff with

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    Re: Halberds: Best PvE weapons?

    Post by Kuragari on Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:41 am

    oh and i almost forgot, i recently aquired the titdemon halberd, so far i'm loving it, the heavy attack is kool, unsafe but kool indeed
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    Re: Halberds: Best PvE weapons?

    Post by reim0027 on Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:47 am

    You mean titanite Halberd?


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    Re: Halberds: Best PvE weapons?

    Post by Kuragari on Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:50 am

    lol yeah, i wasn't sure exactly what it was called, figured everyone would know what i was talking about


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    Re: Halberds: Best PvE weapons?

    Post by reim0027 on Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:56 am

    Too bad it doesn't shoot lightning like when the titanite Demon has it.


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    Re: Halberds: Best PvE weapons?

    Post by Sloth9230 on Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:00 am

    Indeed, I never go into PVE without my trusty halberds. Lightning Gargoyle for regular enemies, lightning Great or lifehunt scythe for bosses. Balder side sword with sunlight blade as a back-up.


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    Re: Halberds: Best PvE weapons?

    Post by Ghadis_God on Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:17 am

    Who says Halberds don't scale well? They generally get as strong as Greatswords with 40/40, save the Scythe and Great scythe, which are both weighted towards dex.


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    Re: Halberds: Best PvE weapons?

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