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    magic barrier = lost the battle

    Post by cloudstrife070 on Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:25 pm

    as a mage character i cant do nothing to them , i think these spells shouls never be in the game, 90 % magic redution ? realy lame

    what do youy guys think , is there a way to counter them ?


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    Re: magic barrier = lost the battle

    Post by Rudmed on Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:27 pm

    Do you have anything that doesn't deal magic damage?

    If not all I can tell you to do is run....run as fast as you can, and wait for it to fade. By the way is it really OP if its meant to counter Dark Magic with bellowing, dusk, and some super strong catalyst? Or perhaps, crown, ring of first, and WOG?


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    Re: magic barrier = lost the battle

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:30 pm

    its the one solid counter to the spell spammers, besides it only last for a minute, dodge for abit or keep a lightning rapier as back up or something.


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    Re: magic barrier = lost the battle

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:39 pm

    Just wait.

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    Re: magic barrier = lost the battle

    Post by cloudstrife070 on Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:42 pm

    my built is based on the moonlight greatsword and this is impossoble to me to hit hem lol

    1 minute seems an eternity in the arena


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    Re: magic barrier = lost the battle

    Post by RANT on Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:45 pm

    always keep an elemental backup, crappy damage is better than no damage at all.


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    Re: magic barrier = lost the battle

    Post by cloudstrife070 on Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:08 am

    ok thanks for the advice gguys happy


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    Re: magic barrier = lost the battle

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:08 am

    Like they said, have some sort of melee backup weapon. Even though i don't play faith, GMB is one of the best ways to defend against the dark magic. Even with GMB a hard hitting mage can take 3/4 your health with just one direct hit from dark bead. If anything should not be in the game it is magic spells that can 1shot players with 1800vit.
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    Re: magic barrier = lost the battle

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:52 am

    it weird... i've been hit by darkbead and a css and only lost 1/3 of my 1200 hp with gmb on, why does it seem so effective on mine when it barely seems to do anythin when others describe thier experiences with gmb? (i don't wear any spell boosters...)


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    Re: magic barrier = lost the battle

    Post by Montante on Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:40 am

    I usually play a mage character and I've run into GMB a few times, especially when I end up fighting the same people more than a few times. What I've done to counter is to use Strong Magic Shield with the lingering dragon ring equipped. If you're quick on your feet to avoid dead angle hits and other stuff you'll both be immune to damage from each other. After a little while, both of your spells will fizzle out and the battle will be back to normal.

    Edit: If they seem to drop their guard entirely while you're doing nothing but blocking with your SMS, see if you can give them a poke or two with the TCC for some decent physical damage. That'll annoy them greatly. happy
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    Re: magic barrier = lost the battle

    Post by AzureCrow on Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:25 am

    For buffing mages persistance nullifies even GMB, my CMW murikumo doesn't seem to notice GMB at all lol
    Perhaps pure casters could carry a pyro glove and attune Great combustion to keep up damage or black flame to outlast it.
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    Re: magic barrier = lost the battle

    Post by OrnsteinBro on Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:22 am

    Stall them out until their 60 seconds is up and then backstab them when they attempt re-casting it.

    Or just get a chaos weapon, lol.


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    Re: magic barrier = lost the battle

    Post by Knight Alundil on Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:05 am

    cloudstrife070 wrote:i think these spells shouls never be in the game, 90 % magic redution ? realy lame

    This game is like rock paper scissors man. I'm sure alot of people feel that way about the new dark magic winking

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    Re: magic barrier = lost the battle

    Post by robsthedon on Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:18 pm

    Knight Alundil wrote:
    cloudstrife070 wrote:i think these spells shouls never be in the game, 90 % magic redution ? realy lame

    This game is like rock paper scissors man. I'm sure alot of people feel that way about the new dark magic winking

    That dark bead is a bit op, I was vaded at the burg today by a darkmoon wearing crown of dusk, with my sl60 dex. I I I waited a good 5min for him to show, i was on the brigde he was coming from tarus side, hcsm dodged, x2 CSS dodged 1320HP intact, dark bead cast,I rolled, dead. sad

    So if you ask me GMB if totally fair, infact I would follow it up with TWOP happy


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    Re: magic barrier = lost the battle

    Post by Knight Alundil on Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:43 pm

    robsthedon wrote:
    Knight Alundil wrote:
    cloudstrife070 wrote:i think these spells shouls never be in the game, 90 % magic redution ? realy lame

    This game is like rock paper scissors man. I'm sure alot of people feel that way about the new dark magic winking

    That dark bead is a bit op, I was vaded at the burg today by a darkmoon wearing crown of dusk, with my sl60 dex. I I I waited a good 5min for him to show, i was on the brigde he was coming from tarus side, hcsm dodged, x2 CSS dodged 1320HP intact, dark bead cast,I rolled, dead. sad

    So if you ask me GMB if totally fair, infact I would follow it up with TWOP happy

    Can't do TWoP and GMB at same time, sadly. Though if they're cool with killing you with spells I'm sure they won't mind a wog spam or ten big grin

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    Re: magic barrier = lost the battle

    Post by Glutebrah on Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:56 pm

    GMB is the only hard counter to Mages, and requires a big faith investment, it isn't like it only requires 12 faith like heal does. so not everyone can run around with it.

    perfectly fine.


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    Re: magic barrier = lost the battle

    Post by Carphil on Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:23 pm

    do people really hate GMB like this? Is so dificult to use in the arena and general duels

    GMB is OP, but dusk crown + bellowing ring + crystal catalyst + dark bead is not, haha

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    Re: magic barrier = lost the battle

    Post by Knight Alundil on Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:26 pm

    Every spell in this game is balanced. Honestly nothing is OP if you know how to use everything. It's just when people get their *** handed to them they ***** and whine.

    Just like I did when the new dark magic came out. I was like "AWWWW NO WAY OP BULL ****!" but i've learned since then. big grin

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    Re: magic barrier = lost the battle

    Post by cloudyeki on Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:11 pm

    I'm awash with non-shock that someone who using a moonlight focused build would have trouble with GMB. At least it wasn't VoS.

    Keep something like great combustion or great fireball on you, they deal fire damage which means GMB won't do crap for it, and play a more defensive game til their GMB times out.


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    Re: magic barrier = lost the battle

    Post by Glutebrah on Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:19 pm

    Knight Alundil wrote:Every spell in this game is balanced. Honestly nothing is OP if you know how to use everything. It's just when people get their *** handed to them they ***** and whine.

    Just like I did when the new dark magic came out. I was like "AWWWW NO WAY OP BULL ****!" but i've learned since then. big grin

    spells by them self are balanced, but some are very OP when combined together. like TWOP + any sorc spells. but it is easy to avoid TWOP, unless you spawn into it when you invade


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    Re: magic barrier = lost the battle

    Post by johnnyjwa on Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:24 pm

    My advice is to practice with melee. Don't rely so heavily on magic. Have magic as a secondary bonus.

    Or you can just run away into the mobs all over the map like a lot the mages seem to do on my faith build. And don't forget to taunt if you manage to kill the host after you run away...


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    Re: magic barrier = lost the battle

    Post by robsthedon on Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:02 pm

    johnnyjwa wrote: And don't forget to taunt if you manage to kill the host after you run away...

    Lol


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    Re: magic barrier = lost the battle

    Post by Knight Alundil on Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:38 pm

    Glutebrah wrote:
    Knight Alundil wrote:Every spell in this game is balanced. Honestly nothing is OP if you know how to use everything. It's just when people get their *** handed to them they ***** and whine.

    Just like I did when the new dark magic came out. I was like "AWWWW NO WAY OP BULL ****!" but i've learned since then. big grin

    spells by them self are balanced, but some are very OP when combined together. like TWOP + any sorc spells. but it is easy to avoid TWOP, unless you spawn into it when you invade

    Like you said they're easy to avoid. Also, many other combination of items in the game that aren't spells can become what you're calling "OP" now so doesn't that mean it's not OP and just P? big grin
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    Re: magic barrier = lost the battle

    Post by lextune on Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:01 pm

    FruitPunchNinja wrote: If anything should not be in the game it is magic spells that can 1shot players with 1800vit.

    ^This, X1000.


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    Re: magic barrier = lost the battle

    Post by AzureCrow on Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:58 pm

    There really should be some sort of ring or spell to prevent taking more than 2/3 your health in 1 hit. If an attack can take half my heath I should have dodged but 1HKO's just suck the fun out of pvp.

    The only reason GMB has become so common as of late is because the Oolacile sorcery suffers from almost as much lag as bs's. Without the latency issues even pursuers is just an above average spell.

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