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    Idea Concerning Potential Secrets And/Or Artoris

    Post by PastaOfDoom on Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:05 pm

    So this is my first post ever on this forum, and I had an idea. Would it be possible to kill Sif and then the Four Kings before anything else except the Asylum Demon? I'm pretty sure I have to kill the Taurus Demon, though. It was just a thought I had. I'll be going into NG+++ after I kill Nito and Gwyn, so probably some time today, and I was planning to try that out. BTW, I have the Master Key, if anyone knows how that could help me get to Sif before Taurus Demon.
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    Re: Idea Concerning Potential Secrets And/Or Artoris

    Post by Artorias on Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:10 pm

    Maybe but would'nt you get stuck in the abyss if rest at the bonfire there. You can go through valley of drakes to darkroot basin. And since bosses scale with your level it shouldnt be hard if its a first playthrough but if its NG++ the maybe, but you will be equipped with ggood gear so you should be ok
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    Re: Idea Concerning Potential Secrets And/Or Artoris

    Post by Carphil on Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:25 pm

    Master Artorias? Is that you??


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    Re: Idea Concerning Potential Secrets And/Or Artoris

    Post by Griever on Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:55 pm

    Can't you open the door before the Taurus Demon and go down to where Havel is in Darkroot Basin?
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    Re: Idea Concerning Potential Secrets And/Or Artoris

    Post by Artorias on Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:03 pm

    Possibly i dont know if the master key can be used for that door. And for Carphil i am your master now bow before me.lol


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    Re: Idea Concerning Potential Secrets And/Or Artoris

    Post by PastaOfDoom on Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:12 pm

    Oh yeah, I totally forgot about the lack of warp ability. Darn...is there anything preventing you from entering the boss fight? I don't remember there ever being a yellow fog there...

    *Edit* Wow, I should've made a weapon slightly easier to use than a Zweihander my divine, the normal skeletons are taking forever to die. This battle is difficult, for some reason. Am I doing it wrong? I'm in NG+++ btw, and soul level 117.
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    Re: Idea Concerning Potential Secrets And/Or Artoris

    Post by Artorias on Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:25 pm

    What do you mean by difficult, if your zwei takes too long to swning, try reposting them, i normally just run past all off them and use the shortcut to pinwheel. If you dont like running past them upgrade a claymore or bastard sword to divine or use true GOA


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    Re: Idea Concerning Potential Secrets And/Or Artoris

    Post by PastaOfDoom on Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:30 pm

    No, I mean the skeletons in the Nito boss fight area. I just can't kill them all before Nito gets here, and then he makes himself explode repeatedly. I dunno, I'm going to backstab/riposte them, if I can ever stop sucking at riposting, that is. So anyone know what happens if you try to go into the abyss before you can warp?
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    Post by Artorias on Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:43 pm

    as soon as you jump down dont move wait for nito to come to you, because there are giant skeletons at the back also nito is weak against fire so using pyros will help. And as for the abyss im pretty sure no bonfire will spawn if you go there before obtaining the lorvessel. i know this because i did the bb glitch (please dont hate me, it speeds up making builds) and had the orange charred ring so there was no need beat ceaseless discharge, so i approached the area with the huge worm thing near the demonfire sage and there was no bonfire there.


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    Re: Idea Concerning Potential Secrets And/Or Artoris

    Post by Rynn on Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:44 pm

    If you reach the Abyss before you have the lordvessle, the Abyss bonfire will pretend you have it anyway.
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    Re: Idea Concerning Potential Secrets And/Or Artoris

    Post by PastaOfDoom on Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:46 pm

    I just beat Nito, I was being stupid and forgot to kindle the bonfire, lol. Also I never fight the giant skeletons in the back. w/e, I killed him. I honestly just couldn't win due to bad luck and me rushing/being stupid. So, on to...murdering everyone, gwyn, and then my NG+++ experiment.
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    Post by PastaOfDoom on Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:46 pm

    Oh, ok, thanks. That helps. brohoof?
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    Post by Artorias on Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:48 pm

    Kujii even if people rest there how will they leave the abyss


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    Re: Idea Concerning Potential Secrets And/Or Artoris

    Post by Kyubi-Nick on Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:48 pm

    For the record, you can just go through Valley of the Drakes via master key instead to avoid the Taurus Demon.


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    Post by Rynn on Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:49 pm

    PastaOfDoom wrote:Oh, ok, thanks. That helps. brohoof?
    Can I stab you in the back during the middle of the hoofing of bro's? = D
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    Post by Artorias on Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:51 pm

    Kyubi-Nick wrote:For the record, you can just go through Valley of the Drakes via master key instead to avoid the Taurus Demon.
    That was already mentioned at the top
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    Re: Idea Concerning Potential Secrets And/Or Artoris

    Post by Kyubi-Nick on Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:07 pm

    Artorias wrote:
    Kyubi-Nick wrote:For the record, you can just go through Valley of the Drakes via master key instead to avoid the Taurus Demon.
    That was already mentioned at the top

    Bah, missed that. Hadn't seen anyone else mention it, seemed strange.


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    Re: Idea Concerning Potential Secrets And/Or Artoris

    Post by PastaOfDoom on Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:28 pm

    Ok, so: I can get to sif before anything else...I can get out of the abyss...and maybe something might happen if I do this. I don't know. Does anyone know if this has been done before?

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    Maybe I should kill the four kings and sif while using artorias' sword and shield, i have the souls.

    *edit* nvm, i just murdered the giant blacksmith, i forgot. whoops.
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    Re: Idea Concerning Potential Secrets And/Or Artoris

    Post by JohnnyHarpoon on Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:29 pm

    Somebody on the old Forums tried this and nothing special happened. But yes, you can go Burg --> Basin with the Master Key and easily fight Sif first.

    You could also go New Londo --> Valley of Drakes --> Basin as well.


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    Re: Idea Concerning Potential Secrets And/Or Artoris

    Post by PastaOfDoom on Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:33 pm

    Well that sucks. I'm going to do it any way. It was just a thought I had, I didn't really expect anything to come of it.

    *Edit* I just beat Gwyn, and 1-hit the asylum demon with the drop attack for teh lolz. On to Sif!


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    Re: Idea Concerning Potential Secrets And/Or Artoris

    Post by PastaOfDoom on Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:34 pm

    Has anyone tried killing Sif with the Greatsword of Artorias and the Four Kings with the cursed greatsword?

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