Greatshield shield bashing Viable?

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    Greatshield shield bashing Viable?

    Post by T-King-667 on Sun Sep 30, 2012 1:53 pm

    As we all know, none of the great shields can parry so instead you shield bash with them. But is it really viable? I Read somwhere once upon a time that Shield bashes are good for hitting away an opponents shields when there turtleing (equivalent to kicking) They also cause a bit of damage aswel (although not much damage even at +15) So its primary use is to beat away a shielded opponent when kicking is just as fast. I killed a few players in pvp by throwing a suprise shield attack in the end but other than that whats the use?
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    Re: Greatshield shield bashing Viable?

    Post by Siegfried. on Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:22 pm

    You count as blocking while you make the attack, so it's a way to get a "kick" without dropping your guard.
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    Re: Greatshield shield bashing Viable?

    Post by Rynn on Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:31 pm

    In addition it takes away more stamina then a kick.
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    Re: Greatshield shield bashing Viable?

    Post by Siegfried. on Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:39 pm

    There's that, too. Greatshields have their place, but that's mostly to do with their defensive qualities.
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    Re: Greatshield shield bashing Viable?

    Post by T-King-667 on Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:28 pm

    Well i guess Since i useually use ultra great weapons with my greatshields I can bash to catch them off guard with a quicker attack than normal. But i dont think it still counts as a block.?
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    Re: Greatshield shield bashing Viable?

    Post by CaligoIllioneus on Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:35 pm

    Also shield bashes can be parried (unlike kicks), at least by the Balder Knights and NPCs. Probably by players too, and they have huge tells...
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    Re: Greatshield shield bashing Viable?

    Post by Rynn on Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:38 pm

    It's still a block. It's not reliable though, as you're only blocking during the last half of a bash.
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    Re: Greatshield shield bashing Viable?

    Post by T-King-667 on Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:45 pm

    Rynn wrote:It's still a block. It's not reliable though, as you're only blocking during the last half of a bash.
    Well better than nothing. I dident think it blocked at all. But yes a shield bash can Be parried by other players to the dude who asked ^^ Im trying to find a use to everything in this game and shield bashing is one of them.
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    Re: Greatshield shield bashing Viable?

    Post by Rynn on Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:51 pm

    Lets go over this then.

    Shield Bashing pro's
    • Higher Stamina loss for blocking opponents
    • Blocks during the animation
    • Does Damage
    • It's stun effect is longer then the kick's stun.

    Shield Bashing con's
    • Parryable
    • Longer animation then a kick, resulting in opponent recovering all the lost stamina inbetween bashes
    • Far more avoidable then a kick.
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    Re: Greatshield shield bashing Viable?

    Post by T-King-667 on Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:56 pm

    Rynn wrote:Lets go over this then.

    Shield Bashing pro's

    • Higher Stamina loss for blocking opponents
    • Blocks during the animation
    • Does Damage
    • It's stun effect is longer then the kick's stun.

    Shield Bashing con's

    • Parryable
    • Longer animation then a kick, resulting in opponent recovering all the lost stamina inbetween bashes
    • Far more avoidable then a kick.
    So a conclusion would you advise a shield bash over a kick? If you were useing a greatshield?
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    Re: Greatshield shield bashing Viable?

    Post by Siegfried. on Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:00 pm

    Why use just one? A greatshield allows you to choose the best response to a given situation. One or the other will serve you better against certain adversaries, depending on how quickly you need to intercept them.
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    Re: Greatshield shield bashing Viable?

    Post by Rynn on Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:06 pm

    I'd probably start with a shield bash then start doing kicks. Most of the cons of the bash are easily worked through if you don't just keep pressing bash.

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