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    Which off-hand spear to use?

    Post by Phoenix Rising on Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:40 pm

    Playing around with the idea of replacing my bow with an off-hand spear. The demon's spear has a higher AR but its split damage. Also, I may use the leo ring and it says in the description that it only boosts PHYSICAL damage. Does this mean that the lightning damage from the demon's spear isn't counted? Opinions are appreciated...


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    Re: Which off-hand spear to use?

    Post by Rifter7 on Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:43 pm

    well whats your build.

    all im really interested in is your strength/dex.


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    Re: Which off-hand spear to use?

    Post by Spurgun on Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:43 pm

    What is your build?
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    Re: Which off-hand spear to use?

    Post by Ghadis_God on Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:44 pm

    What kind of build are you running? If it's high dex you should go with the SK spear. The winged spear hits harder, but length is the most important factor for an offhand spear, and in that case the Silver knight spear is almost unrivaled. The Demon's spear is weaker and benefits more from a 40/40 build, but it's also very long, and a lot of people see offhanding it as annoying. If you're a Str build, use an elemental pike for the range, it's the longest of the normal path spears.

    And yes, the leo ring only applies to physical damage. The lighting damage is not counted


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    Re: Which off-hand spear to use?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:44 pm

    i use the dragon slayer spear for the hell of it on my 99 end file, usually in tandem with smoughs hammer...


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    Re: Which off-hand spear to use?

    Post by Phoenix Rising on Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:45 pm

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    Re: Which off-hand spear to use?

    Post by Rifter7 on Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:46 pm

    demon's spear is c/c
    winged spear is e/b

    if you've got a lot of strength and dex then go demon's.
    if you're rocking lots of dex then go winged.

    compare the values in mugenmonkey if you can't decide.

    demon's spear has the best range of the spears but it hits like a wet sock.


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    Re: Which off-hand spear to use?

    Post by cloudyeki on Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:46 pm

    If you've the stats for the demon's spear, by all means. The purpose of offhand is to compliment the main weapon/strategy and/or surprise the target. If you can't do that with the demon's spear, go elemental partizan. Less range but quite effective at getting people to back off.

    With your stats the demon's spear is more than adequate for just pokes and distancing.


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    Re: Which off-hand spear to use?

    Post by Rifter7 on Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:47 pm

    demon's spear it is then, you've got 28 strength.

    if you 2 hand that puppy it'll put you at 40/40


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    Re: Which off-hand spear to use?

    Post by Phoenix Rising on Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:57 pm

    cloudyeki wrote:If you've the stats for the demon's spear, by all means. The purpose of offhand is to compliment the main weapon/strategy and/or surprise the target. If you can't do that with the demon's spear, go elemental partizan. Less range but quite effective at getting people to back off.

    With your stats the demon's spear is more than adequate for just pokes and distancing.

    Distancing and poking is what im going for. Strategy is to get them to roll into me and swing...baiting a parry basically...


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    Re: Which off-hand spear to use?

    Post by cloudyeki on Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:59 pm

    That my not work so well. Spears can't parry.


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    Re: Which off-hand spear to use?

    Post by Phoenix Rising on Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:01 pm

    cloudyeki wrote:That my not work so well. Spears can't parry.

    You don't think a swap-parry would work there?


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    Re: Which off-hand spear to use?

    Post by Rifter7 on Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:02 pm

    on your build your spear is in your left hand, same as your shield.

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    Re: Which off-hand spear to use?

    Post by WyrmHero on Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:03 pm

    I would use SKS in off hand. Menu swap the GC and if you are gonna use it 2 handed then upgrade it normal.


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    Re: Which off-hand spear to use?

    Post by cloudyeki on Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:04 pm

    And you can't swap during any attack animation. Meaning that if he rolls in and you try to swap, you're taking the hit.


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    Re: Which off-hand spear to use?

    Post by Phoenix Rising on Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:09 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:I would use SKS in off hand. Menu swap the GC and if you are gonna use it 2 handed then upgrade it normal.
    I use the GC for 1h riposting thats why it's lightning...does 300 more damage than the CB.


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    Re: Which off-hand spear to use?

    Post by Phoenix Rising on Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:20 pm

    Didn't consider the SKS i guess. And i know its range rivals the DS. Just have to test to see which hits harder...


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    Re: Which off-hand spear to use?

    Post by WyrmHero on Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:32 pm

    The SKS will hit harder I'm sure, it's shorter than DS though. If GC is going 1 hand then yeah it's better elemental (I think so). You can also use a mura with those stats, it's a great off hand weapon.


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    Re: Which off-hand spear to use?

    Post by Phoenix Rising on Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:39 pm

    I really like that suggesion Wyrm! May have to play around with that idea a bit.


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