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    Build idea: Trying to get the most out of my estoc

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    Post by Wisp Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:47 pm

    http://tinyurl.com/94qt9az

    Well here's it is. I've always hated that i can't kick with the estoc, but force is a good replacement for a kick. I get as much damage out of it as i'm going to at SL120. Opinions?
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    Post by Heroez Blade Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:47 pm

    Well if you want to get the most out of your estoc than you should raise your faith so you can use sunlight blade. Or try putting different elemental upgrades on it until you find one that works for you.

    I also think your strength and dex is a little high if you are only using the estoc and a bow. Other than that it looks pretty good to me.
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    Post by WyrmHero Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:06 am

    Hey wisp I would lower Str to 28 because you really are getting 1 AR per Str stat so it isn't worth it. The remaining points could be used for Vit/End or a buff.
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    Post by cloudyeki Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:18 am

    Why must everyone go to buffing?

    How bout going for a lower SL build, and using the estoc in tandem with a sweeping weapon in your left hand?

    http://tinyurl.com/8dq9ghg

    120s seem to be getting out of hand, with focus having become 40/40 buffers for absurd amount of damage. That's why I'm gonna start a campaign to bring about the awesomeness of divine/occult/magic/enchanted weapons!

    Edit: For a 120 Diviner http://tinyurl.com/bos4m3d Yeah, how's that?
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    Post by Wisp Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:39 am

    Hmm maybe i should change the title getting the most out of my Estoc without buffing? silly

    Yeah I tend to try and stay away from weapon buffs in most cases, i find them no fun. I don't get any satisfaction out of beating people just because of a buff.

    @Wyrm: Good idea! I added power within for when i come across gankers http://tinyurl.com/8ku5tfu

    @Cloudyeki: I like that first build but i'd rather not lose so much HP and poise. I might try and make an SL99 one for the lifehunter's arena. A faith version seems pretty nice, but what's the damamge like on those weapons?
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    Post by Swiftie Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:51 am

    Just messed around a little. Your bow hits higher now along with your estoc, if you dont like buffing just lower faith to 28 and att. to 14. I personally find emit force pointless, but if you want to use it go ahead. Anddd, I just decided to use FaP and help you out :p

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    Post by omega Elf Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:12 pm

    Not being able to kick is what always turned me
    off rapiers. It's kind of funny, that the one weapon most commonly used for back-stabbing,
    is the weapon that probably leaves you most open to being back-stabbed yourself.
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    Post by Gaxe Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:24 pm

    I'd reccommend something around this http://tinyurl.com/9gmq7qv
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    Post by Wisp Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:51 pm

    @swiftie: Neither the estoc nor the bow would hit harder as elementals (except the estoc critical hits)

    @omega elf: I know right! Any experience with force as an anti BS device?
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    Post by omega Elf Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:50 pm

    Wisp wrote:@omega elf: I know right! Any experience with force as an anti BS device?

    I've messed around with it a little, and it can work just fine, I just
    prefer the ability to kick those fishing sons of b**ches right in the
    nuts, seeing them stagger backwards is very satisfying.
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    Post by Wisp Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:36 pm

    http://tinyurl.com/99r693a

    I think i've found the right build
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    Post by zzombieboy Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:58 pm

    You could try something like this . The Leo Ring is a great addition to Estoc Builds, and will add crazy damage when used right (attack during an attack or roll).





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