44 vs 50 int

taking mlgs, mlbh, logans cat with sorceries and spell power buffing helms into consideration, whats your opinion?

44, specially if it's Logan's.

If you want White dragon breath 50, in every other instance 44.

What if you use TCC is 44 still most beneficial?

50 int only exists for Dragon Breath, the amount of extra damage offered to mlgs or a CSS from the extra scaling is small enough that even past 50 I think Vit gives more health than the extra damage you'd gain from a single hit.

As far as PvP goes, White Dragon Breath sucks. So, 44 all the way.

45 for Logan's. You can go 50 if you're using TCC, but don't go 50 if you plan on using Logan's.

http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Magic+Adjustment

Alright, this had been annoying me for some time now, so I decided to look into it. I never trusted online calculators, always prefer numbers gathered by research, so it annoyed me that a tool we rely on so much (mugen) was still not giving the same numbers as those I have gathered. Here's what I found:

Logan's catalyst @44 Int:
Me: 230 Mag Adj
Mugen: 234 Mag Adj

Logan's @45 Int:
Me: 234 (which is why I always recommended going to 45 Int)
Mugen: 235 (the value I recommend, according to Mugen, is at 44 Int)

So, wanting to find out where the discrepancy was, I looked up values for every Int level and compared with mine. The error is on Mugen's part, and it's in the early Mag Adj values, but it threw off the rest of them.

25 Int
Me: 100
Mugen: 100

26 Int
Me: 112
Mugen: 112

27 Int
Me: 124
Mugen: 136

28 Int
Me: 136
Mugen: 148

29 Int
Me: 148
Mugen: 160

30 Int
Me: 160
Mugen: 165

And so forth...

The values are all the same, but Mugen skipped one. So if you want the optimal Mag Adj per stat points invested, go for 45 Int. If you just want the minimum required to cast the best spell, go 44.

i guess im one of the few that like WDB, its actually fun to use.

I find it's not as bad as people say (you get a lot of casts, and it can hit multiple opponents, though its spread and damage are underwhelming) but my problem with it is that I don't have fun using it! So the opposite of you, rant. It's pretty good for connecting hits in PvP, and can come in handy here and there in PvE, but it's so slow to cast and prone to behaving stupidly, that I dislike using it.

44.

yeah that thign scream bs me on pvp unless you spins around while casting which is what you should be doing. it feels so good when you connect and kill someone with it.