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    ornstein WTF MAN!!!

    Post by stryks1 on Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:37 pm

    Okay...i've tried SEVEN times, all with other phantoms, to beat this guy after killing fatty...it's IMPOSSIBLE at lvl 41...

    Any tips? No matter what he always seems to get me (out of humanity now so if ne1 is new the anol bone...plz rate need humanity lol)
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    Re: ornstein WTF MAN!!!

    Post by Yarxov on Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:43 pm

    Dang, just leveled up my lower char to 61, If you could level up to 51 I can help. (PSN Jdyer97)


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    Re: ornstein WTF MAN!!!

    Post by Whknight on Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:44 pm

    First off, are you trying to kill him last just for the soul or do you just want to win?

    If soul I'm not to sure how exactly to go about it at 41, I guess Furysword and Eagles with medium/light armor?

    If win, kill him first, Super Smough is easier.


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    Re: ornstein WTF MAN!!!

    Post by stryks1 on Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:46 pm

    I want the soul, going spear-faith build
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    Re: ornstein WTF MAN!!!

    Post by Liff Daddy on Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:48 pm

    You on xbox or PSN?


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    Re: ornstein WTF MAN!!!

    Post by Yarxov on Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:49 pm

    Right, strategy.

    Well, If you have about 75 stability on a shield and ~20 end, you can block Smough's attacks. Ornstein is very easy to block. But, Be as mobile as possible. they can't kill you if they can't hit you. Smough can be dodged to the right, his left is where he rests his Hammer which acts like a shield. Ornstein you have to just Kite behind him. For Super Ornstein, rolling sideways dodges most of his attacks, and avoid his Lightning Rod at all costs. Don't block, just 2H and rely on mobility.
    (Get some healing iracles to use on the way there so you have max Estus.)


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    Re: ornstein WTF MAN!!!

    Post by Carphil on Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:50 pm

    Well, basic strategies: light armor so you can roll, don't care about armor, he hits pretty hard. Don't let him hit you, use the broken pillars to block some of his attacks, and this is also perfect if you have some ranged way to damage him. He is somewhat weak to fire. The crystal halberd you get from a mimic when you arrive in Anor Londo seems do to an OK damage at him, and don't need too much stamina to swing. When he tries to lunge, the best to do is roll between his legs. Phantoms can really help just don't waste too much estus in the first part of the battle, and don't level up too much otherwise you won't be able to summon anyone.

    Well, this is it, good luck buddy.


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    Re: ornstein WTF MAN!!!

    Post by Yarxov on Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:51 pm

    You can get summons all the way up to 55 iirc. 60+ and you start pushing it.


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    Re: ornstein WTF MAN!!!

    Post by BLA1NE on Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:45 am

    He's definitely not impossible at that level!

    Can you still summon SL30? I could help.

    In the mean time, if you try again: just stand between his feet and slash at his calves. He's only got a few attacks that can potentially hit you down there, but just learn when to roll, then get right back between his feet, and you'll never get hit.


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    Re: ornstein WTF MAN!!!

    Post by Alistairetheblu on Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:30 am

    I always found fireballs to be the best against him...
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    Re: ornstein WTF MAN!!!

    Post by Serious_Much on Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:24 am

    Lots of fire against ornstein, even if you have fire resin put some on.

    And well his attacks are really easy to dodge.. you can also by attacking him very up close dodging out attacking close.. etc you can bait the butt slam which is easy to dodge and counter attack off.


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    Re: ornstein WTF MAN!!!

    Post by Danthuyer on Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:09 pm

    from my experience in this fight doing fatty first you NEED a good ranged attack (magic) for him.

    I struggled trying to melee him with 2 co-op buddies until I found a competent caster to come and join me. however for yourself mobility is the key, make sure you have enough endurance regen to be able to roll away quickly and avoid his attacks whilst your buddy is using ranged attacks. hopefully #3 buddy is also up and taking shots at him from behind whilst you are rolling around like a mad tank !!

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    Re: ornstein WTF MAN!!!

    Post by Herbo on Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:20 pm

    Doing Super Ornstein just requires a clear head and patience. Until Smough goes down you need to be constantly moving to keep fatty between you and Ornstein (thus using chubbykins as a body shield). Blast away with pyromancy if you can or dash in close when the chance comes to get under his sweeping attacks an cut some bacon off. ALWAYS leave yourself enough stamina for a couple of "oh s" dodge rolls. Nothing more lametacular than gushing out the stamina only to end up taking a big life ending thump.

    For jumbo Ornstein you want to keep under his taint and chop at him. His extra size makes most of his attacks hit beyond you. He will occaisionally slash at his feet and jump away. Just roll with him. And when he does his skewer stab at his feet roll behind him or to the side. For the lightning butt bomb you can usually clear it with a single backwards flip with the wood grain ring. For healing barrel roll away, keep that shield in turtle position and get behind a pillar base to flask ( you may have to hammer that Estus button though cause this fight looooves to forget player input). All of this requires stamina mangement. Roll like a spaz and you'll never have the chance to attack without being empty at kill range. Attack like a vengeful Arkham Asylum hero (mash mash toggle mash..../sigh) and you will get fisted.

    I basically just keep to medium load (under 50%), choke up on a fast fire weapon or a big effing mamma jamma weapon, whip out the Eagle Shield or upgraded Silver Knight Shield, and spend the next few minutes backing up and straffing ( not rolling) with that shield up. Then when I get a chance I hit twice and go back to evasion until the first a-hole goes down. Then rinse-repeat for the jumbo portion of the fight.

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    Re: ornstein WTF MAN!!!

    Post by Scudman_Slayer on Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:45 pm

    just...avoid his grapple and you'll be ok...most of the time

    he is like the penetrator from demon's souls he has a hell of a grapple and it hurts like hell

    Ornstein = Penetrator with lightning powers and a spear

    if you played demon souls and fought the penetrator you know you need to time your rolling right and stay between his legs


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    Re: ornstein WTF MAN!!!

    Post by Quarik on Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:49 am

    Well, I'm fresh off of fighting them solo for the first time (chose NG+, I'm really stupid), and there are a couple of things that I find really helpful. Firstly, Smough is really super weak to lightning, SLB and resin take him out quite quickly. Dodge to the right or towards him on all of his attacks except the charge, roll back for that. For Super Ornstein, DO NOT GET GREEDY. Attack when you are confident you can get a hit without taking one. Use fire if you can, anything but lightning. You can also poison and I assume toxic him, so that's something. Dodge whenever he makes a move, he does his attacks quickly, so it's much better to have wasted a bit of stamina and a chance for an attack than get hit.

    TL:DR, Lightning for smough, anything but lightning for Orn, dodge whenever you see him twitch, and don't get greedy with your attacks. Also roll like it's going out of style when super orn jumps up for the lightning butt-slam.


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    Re: ornstein WTF MAN!!!

    Post by Serious_Much on Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:25 am

    Great necrobump.

    Perfect execution, masterful.


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    Re: ornstein WTF MAN!!!

    Post by Quarik on Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:55 pm

    Oh, apparently this thread is ancient. /fail


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    Re: ornstein WTF MAN!!!

    Post by callipygias on Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:00 pm

    BLA1NE wrote:stand between his feet and slash at his calves.
    Yes, this. Once I realized this it made Super-O soooo much easier.


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    Re: ornstein WTF MAN!!!

    Post by Yarxov on Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:25 am

    ^ hehe I saw my quote in your siggy xD

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    Re: ornstein WTF MAN!!!

    Post by SlakeMoth on Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:45 pm

    Strange, but I found Ornstein easier to kill than Smough on my first playthrough. I downed him loads of times but then got 'hammered' by Smough. Did it in the end solo. On my second time through, I really needed to get Smough first because I wanted the spear, so I had to summon to do it.
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    Re: ornstein WTF MAN!!!

    Post by Quarik on Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:28 pm

    Interesting. I personally prefer downing Orn first because his attacks in super are faster than Smough's.


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    Re: ornstein WTF MAN!!!

    Post by BLA1NE on Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:41 pm

    ^Also, he's very easy to stagger in his small form. Depending on your weapon, you can stagger him every 2-3 hits (I think I was staggering him every 3rd with a Falchion--2-handed, of course). Just keep wailing on him, occasionally rolling to avoid Smough, and Ornstein'll go down in no time.


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