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    chaos or lightning

    Post by raecor14 on Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:30 am

    so i am making a new toon (bet you never saw that coming) and i want it to use a flachion and i have read the arguments with chaos and lightning and i am really confused any help would be great thanks big grin


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    Re: chaos or lightning

    Post by WyrmHero on Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:35 am

    The one you like the most. Chaos is stronger than lightning (not by much) but most armors have high fire resistance and low lightning resistance. I usually choose either depending on the theme of my build.


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    Re: chaos or lightning

    Post by raecor14 on Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:36 am

    i heard that lightning helps with stun-lock and thats why im asking


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    Re: chaos or lightning

    Post by bloodpixel on Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:40 am

    Chaos. The fire effect is simply much cooler.


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    Re: chaos or lightning

    Post by WyrmHero on Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:40 am

    Stunlock doesn't depend on the upgrade of the weapon.


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    Re: chaos or lightning

    Post by ICEFANG on Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:46 am

    I personally prefer Chaos, since I don't make PvP or PvE characters but both (always both, why stop at one?). Since I prefer to play dragon, I also prefer the flavor of using a Chaos weapon (fire with dragons) and I prefer the complexity of Chaos (the small amount it has). A Chaos weapon does do more damage than all Lightning and Fire weapons I know, but only at 8 or 9 (and 10) humanity. I prefer there to be a little to my weapon instead of boring straightforward. It also makes getting your bloodstain harder and more fun.

    In terms of efficiency, there is a reason many more players choice Lightning upgrades. Most shields do protect and most armors do protect better Fire/Chaos than against Lightning, but since I have the most trouble beating greatshield users, and the most common one is the Eagle Shield, I am pleased with that choice. Chaos weapons are also usually easier to upgrade (since you probably need more slabs for your armor). Really there isn't too much to worry about there, choose what you want to use.


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    Re: chaos or lightning

    Post by mugenis4real on Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:49 am

    Chaos is a good choice only if you plan on keeping your humanity in good shape, otherwise do lightning. Really up to preference though, neither is really better than the other in my opinion :roll:
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    Re: chaos or lightning

    Post by raecor14 on Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:09 am

    thanks for the feedback ill try out both i guess XD


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    Re: chaos or lightning

    Post by Forum Pirate on Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:22 am

    Lightning. Because flash sweat is real.


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    Re: chaos or lightning

    Post by ROOSTER330 on Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:38 am

    Forum Pirate wrote:Lightning. Because flash sweat is real.

    Agree, theres alot more defense against fire damage, both in armor and with flash sweat. If your going for which will do more damage, especially pvp, your best bet is probably Lightning.


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    Re: chaos or lightning

    Post by mugenis4real on Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:53 am

    LMAO lol people actually use Flash Sweat?
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    Re: chaos or lightning

    Post by Forum Pirate on Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:57 am

    Yeah, instant shutdown against pyro builds, especially if you have 2 or 3 stacked.


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    Re: chaos or lightning

    Post by mugenis4real on Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:01 am

    You can stack Flash Sweat? :o
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    Re: chaos or lightning

    Post by Forum Pirate on Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:09 am

    multiple playthroughs. A pyro/faith build with gmb, flash sweat, iron skin, and twop ate me a while back because he had 2 of the first 2, 1 iron flesh, 1 twop, 1 gc, 1 wog, a silver knights shield and a demons spear. He was completely impervious to everything I tried, I didn't have slb.


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    Re: chaos or lightning

    Post by bloodpixel on Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:58 am

    mugenis4real wrote:You can stack Flash Sweat? :o
    I pretty sure the only thing you can't stack are covenent spells.


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    Re: chaos or lightning

    Post by ICEFANG on Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:57 am

    You can't stack any spells except for Cast Light and that just resets the timer for it.

    As far as I know, every spell that you cast on yourself (self buff) and every spell you cast on your weapon can happen at once, but you can't override them with another spell unless that spell is Cast Light.

    I'm surprised that more people don't use it, I've never seen anyone using it to be honest (except when I tried it against pyro's), I could see why that would be a problem though.


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    Re: chaos or lightning

    Post by Forum Pirate on Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:04 am

    Not stack as in layer effects, stack as in have multiple attunement slots filled by.


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    Re: chaos or lightning

    Post by sean1230 on Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:32 am

    Chaos is better early on and elemental and buffed weapons. Have higher ar


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    Re: chaos or lightning

    Post by mugenis4real on Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:22 pm

    Forum Pirate wrote:Not stack as in layer effects, stack as in have multiple attunement slots filled by.

    But then your not really stacking spells at all...
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    Re: chaos or lightning

    Post by Ghadis_God on Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:01 pm

    Chaos has better damage at 10 humanity but most armor has lower lightning resist. Fire is, in fact, the general highest of elemental resists so in terms of PvP effectiveness? I haven't really tested if the lower light resist gives a damage advantage.


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    Re: chaos or lightning

    Post by Forum Pirate on Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:40 pm

    You know what I ment, I explained it. The terms stacking spells and stacking casts mean the same thing in this context.

    My original point stands, flash sweat is an excellent spell that ruins any attempt to deal fire damage for the duration. It might not be common, but it should be accounted for so I must recommend lightning


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