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    BB Transfer Not A Glitch?

    Post by Extertionist on Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:31 pm

    It seems to me that this is more of a hidden feature from put in the game rather than an actual glitch, thoughts?


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    Re: BB Transfer Not A Glitch?

    Post by Forum Pirate on Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:38 pm

    Not a programmer, no Idea.


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    Re: BB Transfer Not A Glitch?

    Post by Isirith on Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:58 pm

    It does seem abit far-fetched for a glitch. Ain't glitches usually something that
    briefly messes up?
    Or falling through stuff or something? happy


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    Re: BB Transfer Not A Glitch?

    Post by Owl on Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:59 pm

    I might be tempted to agree with you if not for reports that it messes with items you only obtain once per character. I've personally never done any of the glitches talked about here.


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    Re: BB Transfer Not A Glitch?

    Post by xtal84 on Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:04 pm

    I might agree with that, OP, if only because some of the others glitches seem to have ... strange rules.

    For example, the item duping glitch. Apparently it will work on things like souls and humanity, but not on some consumable/usable items like throwing knives or firebombs. It seems too convenient. Then again, the BB glitch can really break the game at lower levels if you have some jerk abusing it to harass others. I don't think that's a feature you put in your game intentionally, even if it were an extreme sort of hard-to-find easter egg.
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    Re: BB Transfer Not A Glitch?

    Post by Forum Pirate on Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:11 pm

    If you've never done it OWL, you don't really have ground to stand on. Give me 10 minutes and I can "report" anything I want.

    The once a character items have been completely unaffected in my experience, it just drops the duplicate if you get a second on you, same as if you try to pick up something you have 99 of.


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    Re: BB Transfer Not A Glitch?

    Post by bloodpixel on Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:20 pm

    I feel like this has been discussed before...


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    Re: BB Transfer Not A Glitch?

    Post by Sebastrd on Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:39 pm

    Forum Pirate wrote:If you've never done it OWL, you don't really have ground to stand on. Give me 10 minutes and I can "report" anything I want.

    The once a character items have been completely unaffected in my experience, it just drops the duplicate if you get a second on you, same as if you try to pick up something you have 99 of.

    He's talking about things like covenant rewards, not binoculars.


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    Re: BB Transfer Not A Glitch?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:44 pm

    thats because it attempts to copy your covanent level etc, i bet if people left their covs before bb'ing the "i didn't get my (insert cov item here) " problem wouldn't occur.


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    Re: BB Transfer Not A Glitch?

    Post by RandelOolacile on Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:01 pm

    No, I believe it's a glitch.

    I have issues with it. For instance, if I leave the original character in an area like firelink shrine when I start the new game my character isn't able to leave the asylum. Oscar isn't there and all black knights instantly die when the game begins yielding me a couple red chunks. It acts as if I was on my second visit, but the door leading to the cliff is locked.

    I heard this also happens if the glitch is attempted while holding the lordvessel.
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    Re: BB Transfer Not A Glitch?

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:06 pm

    ^ you just have to reload your game and the estus and key will appear. I for one have to partially agree that it seems intentional on froms part, especially since their was a very similar yet very different "glitch" in demons souls. Both require you to actually attain the items/weapons first also.
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    Re: BB Transfer Not A Glitch?

    Post by RandelOolacile on Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:08 pm

    If it wasn't a glitch I would think that things out of normalcy wouldn't be required. I would assume that the game would function as it should.


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    Re: BB Transfer Not A Glitch?

    Post by Azran on Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:10 pm

    I've done a lot of BB Glitching (saves a lot of time; I don't like to grind to get my favourite weapons on each playthrough).
    I haven't encountered a single problem on my three full playthroughs using it.

    Also, I think the glitch itself lies on how the game handles the info you just "retrieved" about the save slot. I wouldn't dare to say it's unintented, though.
    Same case as with the Demon's Souls Thomas Dupe.


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    Re: BB Transfer Not A Glitch?

    Post by Yarxov on Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:22 pm

    If it was intended why not just let the BB be a universal, account based item, rather than individual.


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    Re: BB Transfer Not A Glitch?

    Post by Azran on Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:26 pm

    Welp, as Dark Souls design philosophy demonstrates; why give the player something up front? Allow them to discover it. silly

    I don't know, I wouldn't put it past those crafty From developers.


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    Re: BB Transfer Not A Glitch?

    Post by RandelOolacile on Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:23 am

    I could imagine it as an idea that may have been scrapped, but some of the coding was left. =P


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    Re: BB Transfer Not A Glitch?

    Post by Extertionist on Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:31 am

    It could be it was originally intended as an easter egg but it's quite possible it was scrapped or unfinished and affected by an actual glitch.

    Also I might add, which is unusual, the first time I did it I didn't transfer the blue eye stone over, but on that new playthrough I got the blue eye stone from the chest behind frampt in firelink.


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    Re: BB Transfer Not A Glitch?

    Post by RandelOolacile on Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:19 am

    I noticed that when I do it the chest always has alvinas ring in it. =D


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    Re: BB Transfer Not A Glitch?

    Post by Rynn on Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:07 am

    This is a bug, there isn't any possible way that it isn't.
    Your rankings in the Book of the Guilty get bugged all to hell, to such a point that any BB-char I have instead has the profile of a level 755 player with 2 sin. The BB-glitch also affects covenants if you were in them, as well as glitching other minor features throughout the game.

    It is more reasonable to claim the BB is a glitch, then that it's intentional and causes 20 other glitches.
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    Re: BB Transfer Not A Glitch?

    Post by DoughGuy on Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:09 am

    Then why hasnt it been fixed? Surely its not too hard to fix it. Insteda of patching it it has been left in place for 5 patches, and its very well known.


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    Re: BB Transfer Not A Glitch?

    Post by Rynn on Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:13 am

    DoughGuy wrote:Then why hasnt it been fixed? Surely its not too hard to fix it. Insteda of patching it it has been left in place for 5 patches, and its very well known.
    Perhaps they consider other things more important... or perhaps tons of you have declared you'll quit playing if they fix it, so they left it alone.
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    Re: BB Transfer Not A Glitch?

    Post by Bioraptor on Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:53 am

    I belive it to be a glitch.
    To some who like fair PvP it is a good glitch,faster building for different builds.
    For people who exsploit it? (Low level abusing new DkS players and players not using the BB glitch).the people on the resiving end see it as a bad glitch.

    Also I do not think you can say it will effect everyone in the same way,I belive what may or may not work for one person.Does not mean it will shadow the next person the same way.


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    Re: BB Transfer Not A Glitch?

    Post by Federally on Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:09 am

    DoughGuy wrote:Then why hasnt it been fixed? Surely its not too hard to fix it. Insteda of patching it it has been left in place for 5 patches, and its very well known.

    Maybe they can't. It's tied in to the NG+ BB transfer system, so maybe they can't fix it without tearing the whole thing apart.


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    Re: BB Transfer Not A Glitch?

    Post by DoughGuy on Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:14 am

    There would have to be a counter informing the game of which NG you are on and when to stoe your equipment. Why not just say
    "if counter == 0;
    BB = empty"


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    Re: BB Transfer Not A Glitch?

    Post by FrEyes on Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:42 am

    It seems pretty glitchy to me... For example, once I used it, Oscar didn't appear on Asylum and I could not progress the game lol.


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