Dark Lord = Demon's Souls Dark One?

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    Dark Lord = Demon's Souls Dark One?

    Post by dardenfall on Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:44 pm

    I forget where I read this (it's not my original idea), but if DS was really supposed to be a prequel to DmS, does it make sense that the Dark Lord is the Dark One in Demon Souls?

    Sorry if this thread has been done a million times - I searched the forum and didn't find any..
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    Re: Dark Lord = Demon's Souls Dark One?

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:04 pm

    It's not supposedly a prequel to DeS. Where did you read that?


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    Re: Dark Lord = Demon's Souls Dark One?

    Post by dardenfall on Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:40 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:It's not supposedly a prequel to DeS. Where did you read that?

    I think it was just someone's theory. It's not a bad one, considering FROM couldn't use anything from EnD for legal reasons. And what's patches doing in Lordran?? It's not a stretch saying they're related more than 'spiritually successive
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    Re: Dark Lord = Demon's Souls Dark One?

    Post by TehInfamousAmos on Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:48 pm

    ... Patches is a spiritual successor of DeS, he was the most memorable character out of DeS that could easily enough be carried over.


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    Re: Dark Lord = Demon's Souls Dark One?

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:51 pm

    Even though both have obvious similar characters and similarities, I don't think the story of DkS is a prequel of DeS, nor a sequel. The land of giants broken archstone could be related to Lordran, as Lordran is clearly the land of giants and gods. The old monk from DeS manipulated dark souls through his golden garb, but other than that I can't find any more connections on the story.


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    Re: Dark Lord = Demon's Souls Dark One?

    Post by dardenfall on Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:17 pm

    Either way it's hardly definitive. Talking crows that trade things with you anyone? happy


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    Re: Dark Lord = Demon's Souls Dark One?

    Post by DoughGuy on Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:21 pm

    The games were made by the same company. Of course they would reuse popular things between the 2. Look at the FF series. Every game has the same items yet they are all different worlds.


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    Re: Dark Lord = Demon's Souls Dark One?

    Post by Reaperfan on Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:30 pm

    Dark Souls was originally planned as a Demon's Souls 2, but due to copyright issues coming up with Sony owning the Demon's Souls IP, FROM couldn't legally use any direct connections. So alot of things were designed as direct connections but due to those legal issues they had to be cut, changed, or simply made incredibly cryptic.

    As it was said earlier, the Tomb of the Giants is one such connection. In Dark Souls we know that a war between Lordran and the Chaos Demons ravaged the land, and the Giants were wiped out creating the Tomb of the Giants. In Demon's Souls we know that the land of the Giants was wiped out by demons. Coincidence? Another one I really like is King Jeremiah. In Dark Souls we know he is known as the "The Legendary Exile," is fond of invading, and is clad in yards and yards of sinister golden robes. In Demon's Souls we know that the Elder of Latria was banished from the land long ago, only to return wearing demonic golden robes and an extensive knowledge of black phantoms. More coincidence?

    Just because they technically aren't part of the same universe, doesn't mean they weren't intended to be winking


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    Re: Dark Lord = Demon's Souls Dark One?

    Post by DoughGuy on Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:32 pm

    Reaperfan wrote:Dark Souls was originally planned as a Demon's Souls 2, but due to copyright issues coming up with Sony owning the Demon's Souls IP, FROM couldn't legally use any direct connections. So alot of things were designed as direct connections but due to those legal issues they had to be cut, changed, or simply made incredibly cryptic.

    As it was said earlier, the Tomb of the Giants is one such connection. In Dark Souls we know that a war between Lordran and the Chaos Demons ravaged the land, and the Giants were wiped out creating the Tomb of the Giants. In Demon's Souls we know that the land of the Giants was wiped out by demons. Coincidence? Another one I really like is King Jeremiah. In Dark Souls we know he is known as the "The Legendary Exile," is fond of invading, and is clad in yards and yards of sinister golden robes. In Demon's Souls we know that the Elder of Latria was banished from the land long ago, only to return wearing demonic golden robes and an extensive knowledge of black phantoms. More coincidence?

    Just because they technically aren't part of the same universe, doesn't mean they weren't intended to be winking
    Stop it Reaper! Everything is so much nicer without that connection.


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    Re: Dark Lord = Demon's Souls Dark One?

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:23 am

    Patches appears in a few fromsoft games, hes in Armored Core:for answer too.
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    Re: Dark Lord = Demon's Souls Dark One?

    Post by Yarxov on Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:25 am

    ^Whaat?


    @Dough No its not! Lordran being the Broken Archstone would be most pleasant! This has more history to it, with the Age of Fire and such, it starting here would make it just like the Archstone that was broken to protect the rest of the world from the Demons.


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    Re: Dark Lord = Demon's Souls Dark One?

    Post by Baldor Ostarv on Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:17 am

    dardenfall wrote:I forget where I read this (it's not my original idea), but if DS was really supposed to be a prequel to DmS, does it make sense that the Dark Lord is the Dark One in Demon Souls?

    Sorry if this thread has been done a million times - I searched the forum and didn't find any..

    Baldor Ostarv wrote:The First Soul.

    Possibly (theoritical) the soul of the Old One merged with the Hero of the Nexus should he choose that particular ending. The world ended and was then reconstructed into the old crags where the dragons rose to power. The Lords found the First Soul and split it amongst themselves to then begin the War of Exterminitation against the Dragons.

    Or it's the Soul of the Dovahkiin.


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    Re: Dark Lord = Demon's Souls Dark One?

    Post by JoeBroski09 on Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:20 am

    I like how people reference things from Skyrim as if it came first lol! Dark Souls was released way before Skyrim hahaha!


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    Re: Dark Lord = Demon's Souls Dark One?

    Post by Baldor Ostarv on Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:26 am

    Oh, dear.

    Can't delete it now.


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