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    Hidden/scrapped miracle?

    Post by Wade_Wilson on Thu May 17, 2012 8:00 pm




    Why FROM, why...?
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    Re: Hidden/scrapped miracle?

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Thu May 17, 2012 8:01 pm

    Where did you find this?

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    Re: Hidden/scrapped miracle?

    Post by Wade_Wilson on Thu May 17, 2012 8:03 pm

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:Where did you find this?

    Dark Souls General over at /vg/ on 4chan.
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    Re: Hidden/scrapped miracle?

    Post by Serious_Much on Thu May 17, 2012 8:06 pm

    It may be a miracle available through modding, like the elite cleric set is.


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    Re: Hidden/scrapped miracle?

    Post by Maneater_Mildred on Thu May 17, 2012 8:19 pm

    As it says in the lore of the miracle... It was lost, which is why FROM left it out.


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    Re: Hidden/scrapped miracle?

    Post by Serious_Much on Thu May 17, 2012 8:36 pm

    Maneater_Mildred wrote:As it says in the lore of the miracle... It was lost, which is why FROM left it out.

    lol, good point silly


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    Re: Hidden/scrapped miracle?

    Post by DoughGuy on Thu May 17, 2012 8:38 pm

    Does that mean FROM are the WoW? And that to rank up you have to work for them?


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    Re: Hidden/scrapped miracle?

    Post by ublug on Thu May 17, 2012 8:43 pm

    This has been known since the textdumps surfaced. There are other removed items as well, with descriptions more or less intact, the Affidavit and Lift Chamber Key also have icons. We also learned from interviews and concept art that a whole world was dropped because it didn't work out as planned 😢

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    Ring of Blind Ghosts:
    This ring belonged to the seal guardian of New Londo. It prevents its wearer's discovery by cursed ghosts. There were once three guardians of the seal, but two of them tired of their eternal task, and left New Londo long ago.

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    Re: Hidden/scrapped miracle?

    Post by Azran on Thu May 17, 2012 9:04 pm

    "Ring of Blind Ghosts:
    This ring belonged to the seal guardian of New Londo. It prevents its wearer's discovery by cursed ghosts. There were once three guardians of the seal, but two of them tired of their eternal task, and left New Londo long ago."

    That explains a lot about why Ingward isn't attacked by Ghosts.


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    Re: Hidden/scrapped miracle?

    Post by PlasticandRage on Thu May 17, 2012 9:09 pm

    It seems like a lot of those is in some way related to New Londo. I wonder if there was originally going to be another area for us to access down there? It's a shame too, atmosphere wise New Londo is probably my favorite area in the game. Definitely sounds like we missed out on a Velka related covenant too.
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    Re: Hidden/scrapped miracle?

    Post by Chaos Spectre on Thu May 17, 2012 10:32 pm

    They would take out the lift chamber key. Definitely a troll move. For those who have seen the "Dark Souls General" video, you all know what I mean.


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    Re: Hidden/scrapped miracle?

    Post by Yarxov on Thu May 17, 2012 11:18 pm

    ^I always noticed how there was an unlocked door when there very well shouldnt be, most gates need to be opened manually, locked or not.


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    Re: Hidden/scrapped miracle?

    Post by User on Thu May 17, 2012 11:21 pm

    Ring of Condemnation interests me the most. They deliberately removed part of the description...
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    Re: Hidden/scrapped miracle?

    Post by DoughGuy on Thu May 17, 2012 11:32 pm

    Probably because without her covenant in game its story aspect was no longer relevant/removed with the covenant.


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    Re: Hidden/scrapped miracle?

    Post by RANT on Fri May 18, 2012 11:37 am

    escape death would always be attuned if it ended up in the final game, specially with crappy cmaera angles which is what kills me most of the time.


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    Re: Hidden/scrapped miracle?

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Fri May 18, 2012 12:07 pm

    wow seriously if this was in the game it would be YET ANOTHER super powerful miracle. im sorry but was from even thinking about balance when they created darkmoon blade cove and miracles. Not only does DMB covenant have access to the most powerful spells in the game they can invade lower lvls......i think they did this to make some savvy point of how the "good guys" can become evil themselves. its lame lol.
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    Re: Hidden/scrapped miracle?

    Post by Reaperfan on Fri May 18, 2012 12:29 pm

    It was their way of trying to put a Second Chance style miracle in wasn't it? In the end I guess Second Chance can never be balanced though sad


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    Re: Hidden/scrapped miracle?

    Post by RANT on Fri May 18, 2012 1:34 pm

    FruitPunchNinja wrote:wow seriously if this was in the game it would be YET ANOTHER super powerful miracle. im sorry but was from even thinking about balance when they created darkmoon blade cove and miracles. Not only does DMB covenant have access to the most powerful spells in the game they can invade lower lvls......i think they did this to make some savvy point of how the "good guys" can become evil themselves. its lame lol.

    dude i think its just a ring of revival spell, im pretty sure you wouldve died but not lose everything when you pop up at the bonfire.


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    Re: Hidden/scrapped miracle?

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Fri May 18, 2012 1:59 pm

    yea re reading it you're right rant. it did seem very second chance ish.
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    Re: Hidden/scrapped miracle?

    Post by RANT on Fri May 18, 2012 2:17 pm

    FruitPunchNinja wrote:yea re reading it you're right rant. it did seem very second chance ish.

    dude second chance was the worse miracle in demon's i never used myself and it was so annoying to finally killing someone then have then revive, most fights in demon's came down to who had seconds chance or who timed their grassing better, really lame.


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    Re: Hidden/scrapped miracle?

    Post by Reaperfan on Fri May 18, 2012 4:14 pm

    RantFromRant wrote:dude second chance was the worse miracle in demon's i never used myself and it was so annoying to finally killing someone then have then revive, most fights in demon's came down to who had seconds chance or who timed their grassing better, really lame.

    How much Demon's Souls PvP did you do exactly? Second Chance was parallel to the DWGR in terms of the "if you're gonna PvP seriously, you need to use this" mentality, and grassing is the equivalent of using Estus. If you were in some weird PvP scene where people didn't use second chance and spammed grasses then you didn't really experience true Demon's Souls PvP. At it's prime, it was like the entire Demon's Souls community was part of Fight Club happy


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    Re: Hidden/scrapped miracle?

    Post by Yarxov on Fri May 18, 2012 4:17 pm

    Except, this isn't Demons Souls anymore. The series has taken off and now has a wider userbase and as such, more assholes. Can you imagine it being fair if you invade 3 Min/maxers and have to kill them over, and over, and over again? While you will get OHKed easily.
    I'm glad they didnt add this. (If it was restricted to PvE I would love it)


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    Re: Hidden/scrapped miracle?

    Post by RANT on Fri May 18, 2012 4:37 pm

    Reaperfan wrote:
    RantFromRant wrote:dude second chance was the worse miracle in demon's i never used myself and it was so annoying to finally killing someone then have then revive, most fights in demon's came down to who had seconds chance or who timed their grassing better, really lame.

    How much Demon's Souls PvP did you do exactly? Second Chance was parallel to the DWGR in terms of the "if you're gonna PvP seriously, you need to use this" mentality, and grassing is the equivalent of using Estus. If you were in some weird PvP scene where people didn't use second chance and spammed grasses then you didn't really experience true Demon's Souls PvP. At it's prime, it was like the entire Demon's Souls community was part of Fight Club happy

    i actually did a lot of pvp, and rarely did i see someone that didnt grass or had second chance. i personally tried not to grass unless they did, i mean it was fun bbt it gets so boring when fights last forever and like a said it really did come to who times their grassing better, just like dark souls with bs, it comes down to who can abuse the lag to bs your opponent.


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    Re: Hidden/scrapped miracle?

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    Reaperfan wrote:
    RantFromRant wrote:dude second chance was the worse miracle in demon's i never used myself and it was so annoying to finally killing someone then have then revive, most fights in demon's came down to who had seconds chance or who timed their grassing better, really lame.

    How much Demon's Souls PvP did you do exactly? Second Chance was parallel to the DWGR in terms of the "if you're gonna PvP seriously, you need to use this" mentality, and grassing is the equivalent of using Estus. If you were in some weird PvP scene where people didn't use second chance and spammed grasses then you didn't really experience true Demon's Souls PvP. At it's prime, it was like the entire Demon's Souls community was part of Fight Club happy

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    Re: Hidden/scrapped miracle?

    Post by WyrmHero on Fri May 18, 2012 5:49 pm

    Covenant of Velka!!!! Amazing.... Why did they have to scrap all that?


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