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    PvP counters

    Post by WyrmHero on Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:11 pm

    A good counter I have found against roll BS is Fire Whip, really. Cast it when you think your opponent is going to roll BS. Lure him by casting GC first. The fire's motion seems to hit it right when the opponent land right next to you, canceling the BS. I only did it once so I'll test it a bit more. What other counters do you know????


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    Re: PvP counters

    Post by Blade of The Sun on Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:54 pm

    I don't ever want to use Pyromancy ever again, unless its Power Within or Toxic Mist. i might use tempest or chaos storm but that is a stretch. Any counters that don't involve Sorcery or pyromancy?


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    Re: PvP counters

    Post by Maneater_Mildred on Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:01 pm

    I havnt faced rolling bs much so havnt had a chance to practice. But my long spear in my left hand means i can hit them before they are in rolling bs range so maybe thats why i dont see it much and therefor it might be a good counter....


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    Re: PvP counters

    Post by WyrmHero on Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:02 pm

    Well another counter against roll BS would be dead angling I think. You would need to use a big weapon such as the Great Scythe or an ultra greatsword.


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    Re: PvP counters

    Post by Blade of The Sun on Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:05 pm

    I honestly think spears counter just about everything. I think if you get a spear a shield and GMB you pretty much are unbeatable. Assuming of course your skill levels match up and its not a vet vs a noob. This brings me to another counter question. What counters a good player with a spear?

    Dead angles if I am not mistaken are vertical attacks that are slightly more difficult to accurately respond to?

    Vertical attacks are in fact a bsers friend since when people roll its rarely ever forward first.


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    Re: PvP counters

    Post by cloudyeki on Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:10 pm

    Dead angle's are horizontal. As for spear users, I find rolling through the attack and catching them off-guard is effective. If they go for a 2nd stab you can parry-reposte. If they turtle well, cremate them.


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    Re: PvP counters

    Post by WyrmHero on Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:17 pm

    For spears users you have to be as aggressive as possible, and try to break their guard. Spears can't stunlock medium poise (53), so just take a few hits and hit them over and over again (in hopes you can break their guard, must use a large weapon of course). If not then a block parry, block the first, parry the second (in hopes they R1 spam).


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    Re: PvP counters

    Post by WyrmHero on Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:19 pm

    Also the opponent I was fighting counter my GC with a roll BS (which I survived). Roll BS is a good counter for spells.


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    Re: PvP counters

    Post by Blade of The Sun on Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:22 pm

    Ah I see. So when people talk about the G.scythe, it usually means the running attack.

    Well for spears, say you don't have poise?


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    Re: PvP counters

    Post by WyrmHero on Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:30 pm

    The R2 of the Great Scythe is very efficient for dead angling. For 0 poise use the block parry. Also there's a thread here that talks about countering spears, check it out, lots of info.


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    Re: PvP counters

    Post by DamageCK on Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:52 am

    WyrmHero wrote:Well another counter against roll BS would be dead angling I think. You would need to use a big weapon such as the Great Scythe or an ultra greatsword.

    Dead angles are good counters for pretty much any BS attempt except for rolls just because of the invincibility frames. A roll BS relies on your opponent attacking during your roll, allowing you to unlock and pivot for the BS during their recovery. A good counter for roll BSers is to forward roll directly into them as soon as you see they're behind you. It works the same way that it would when someone's trying to chain BS during your wake up.


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    Re: PvP counters

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:07 pm

    Ok another counter. To counter chain BS, try facing the enemy and parry ASAP. If you connect, riposte.


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