I need help with some stats....

So I'm SL 109 going up to 120.



Vit 30

Att 16

End 20

Str 16

Dex 40

Int 50

faith base

Res base



Lifehunt Scythe, Priscillas Dagger, Maiden robes and moonlight waistcloth, could be a Dragon too. I'm using FAP ring. Recommendations for spending those 11 points.

I'm pro Attunement, I love having a lot of spell slots, so I'd bump it to 23 and put the rest into Vit.

Don't listen to me though, there are probably way better suggestions then mine.

Cause you're probably just using CMM right?

It's ok with 4 slots imo. I even use Hidden Body, so I could substitute it with another spell. I'm not using CMW, Priscilla's weapons aren't buffable.

WyrmHero wrote:It's ok with 4 slots imo. I even use Hidden Body, so I could substitute it with another spell. I'm not using CMW, Priscilla's weapons aren't buffable.

/palm

I should pay attention sometimes.

It's ok, I was thinking Vitality too, as I don't want to depend on the Fap ring....

Vitality and/or endurance is what I was thinking.

WyrmHero wrote:So I'm SL 109 going up to 120.



Vit 30

Att 16

End 20

Str 16

Dex 40

Int 50

faith base

Res base



Lifehunt Scythe, Priscillas Dagger, Maiden robes and moonlight waistcloth, could be a Dragon too. I'm using FAP ring. Recommendations for spending those 11 points.

Oh boy! Theory crafting builds! This is literally my favorite part of any game and this one is no exception.

A few things are really important here. Are you going to keep the FaP ring for sure? Are you weapons and armor locked in?

Well it looks like right now with the FaP ring and the two pieces of armor you listed you have 7.2lbs of weight to toy with before hitting medium roll. This is great because you could wear a light head piece (Crown maybe?) and gloves. Also, you didn't list a shield. Grass crest is always awesome in my book, especially if you are going to two hand that scythe.

I'm just going to assume that you don't want a shield, headpiece, and gloves for RP purposes or something. If you are going to eat grass before every big fight then you don't need more endurance. If you aren't then I have to recommend you at least get a few more points. As squishy as your armor is you are going to need some more health I think. If you spend 10 points in vita you will gain 270 more max health. (that FaP ring gives you ridiculous returns with pre 40 vita)

However, giving the nature of this build (super squishy caster) I'm not sure how important all 10 into vita is going to be. I think you will be better putting 5 more points into dex. It will give each of your weapons 3 more damage, not impressive but it will make your cast times as fast as possible. With 50 int you are going to do some serious damage and I think we should do everything we can to make that happen. 5 points into dex and 6 points into vita. Best cast times and 166 more health.

If you commit to dragon form or you plan on using a shield/headpiece/gloves some of my advice might drastically change. If you have any questions I'm ready to defend it. Hope this helps you some.

EDIT: I forgot, bloodbite ring is likely going to be a strong choice since you don't need flip cause you are so light. It will pretty much ensure that you do not have to worry about bleeding yourself.

Wow those are pretty nice tips. I took off the FAP ring, I don't want to depend on it. I substituted by the Ring of Fog (Priscilla's turns invisible). Is the casting time of 40 / 45 dex a huge difference???



Edit: Also I think I'll transform into a Dragon, so armor is not my concern right now.



Second Edit: I will also eat the Green Blossoms, so I think 20 End is enough...

WyrmHero wrote:Wow those are pretty nice tips. I took off the FAP ring, I don't want to depend on it. I substituted by the Ring of Fog (Priscilla's turns invisible). Is the casting time of 40 / 45 dex a huge difference???



Edit: Also I think I'll transform into a Dragon, so armor is not my concern right now.

You just made my whole day. 1: Not relying on fap ring. 2: dragon form.

Oh baby. Prepare for knowledge to be dropped. To answer your question, no. The difference between 40 dex and 45 is minimal. But a difference is there. And in pvp, milliseconds can be miles of difference. Since you are likely going to commit to dragon form and you mention fog ring you have some real decisions to make.

Just today I was using fog ring dragon form to try to have fun as a "predator." Get invaded then prowl them while they do their best to find me. Then pounce. It was fun and I learned quite a bit about a new style of play.

Fog ring is a BEAST when they don't know exactly where you are. But to get the most out of it you can't have active buffs. Stam regen grass will make you stick out like a sore thumb. Not having armor means you have less min/max to worry about and you can focus on your strengths.

Your new lifeline is dragon body stone. The active pretty much auto staggers people. Then can roll through it just like WoG but you don't need a talisman out so it's much harder to anticipate. It also deflects ranged spells such as soul arrow. It is supposed to work on arrows, bolts, thrown projectiles too but I haven't tested it on any of those yet. Not to mention it gives a nice attack buff.

The downside? The active uses CRAZY amounts of stamina. With 20 endurance you are looking at just about your whole bar. While stamina regen (grass crest shield, green grass, and cloranthy) indirectly nerfs your fog ring it makes the dragon torso stone much stronger. Also so does base stamina. Since you aren't going to be wearing armor I don't see many options besides 11 points of endurance. You could sneak in some health but you have to look at your bleed resist without armor now. It's at 73. 11 points of endurance later it's 101. Since your scythe causes you bleed I don't see any way around getting all the points of endurance you can. Unless your going to blood bite ring. Then you technically have more options but you want to be able to do stuff after that torso stone use, such as roll or maybe torso stone again to deflect another CHSM.

Dragon form is versatile and tons of fun. But with where your stats are at this point I really can't recommend anything but more endurance. Bleed resist plus the ability to use your stone better or chain attack longer so you can make them bleed seems to be the best course of action.

EDIT: I got called away from my pc at work and I hit post without making sure the post was complete. Thought I should add that if you are dead set against getting all endurance i'm sure we can work something out. It just seems pretty strong considering your other ring slot is likely going to be given to a dragoncrest ring. (don't discount slumbering dc ring with ring of fog )

I think where you put those 11 points is going to highly depend on how you are going to use the character. Is it going to be mainly melee w/ some magic or mainly magic w/ some melee. Also, what spells are you using and what is your other ring?

I will be using White Dragon Breath, CSS, CHSM and Gravelord Greatsword Dance. My other ring can be DWGR or Wolf Ring, and she's fighting more melee than magic.

In that case I'd definitely pump those stats into End.

Damn it decisions, decisions... Is 1100 HP without armor/light armor enough??

Ok Naked Priscilla with 30 endurance gets 100 bleed resistance, while with 20 she gets 73. With the Bloodbite Ring I get 292 bleed resistance, more than enough to bleed the hell out of my opponents. So 27 points of bleed resistance = 10 points of endurance....I think they are not worth it, considering I may switch RoF with DWGR and use the Green Blossoms. Hum....

WyrmHero wrote:Ok Naked Priscilla with 30 endurance gets 100 bleed resistance, while with 20 she gets 73. With the Bloodbite Ring I get 292 bleed resistance, more than enough to bleed the hell out of my opponents. So 27 points of bleed resistance = 10 points of endurance....I think they are not worth it, considering I may switch RoF with DWGR and use the Green Blossoms. Hum....

At 20 end does your torso stone allow you to do anything after you use it?

By the way just a heads up Wyrm, I wouldn't rely too much on bleeding out people in the eastern set. That armor actually gives a decent bleed resistance, Tolvo out.

Glueguy wrote:Oh boy! Theory crafting builds! This is literally my favorite part of any game and this one is no exception.

A few things are really important here. Are you going to keep the FaP ring for sure? Are you weapons and armor locked in?

Well it looks like right now with the FaP ring and the two pieces of armor you listed you have 7.2lbs of weight to toy with before hitting medium roll. This is great because you could wear a light head piece (Crown maybe?) and gloves. Also, you didn't list a shield. Grass crest is always awesome in my book, especially if you are going to two hand that scythe.

I'm just going to assume that you don't want a shield, headpiece, and gloves for RP purposes or something. If you are going to eat grass before every big fight then you don't need more endurance. If you aren't then I have to recommend you at least get a few more points. As squishy as your armor is you are going to need some more health I think. If you spend 10 points in vita you will gain 270 more max health. (that FaP ring gives you ridiculous returns with pre 40 vita)

However, giving the nature of this build (super squishy caster) I'm not sure how important all 10 into vita is going to be. I think you will be better putting 5 more points into dex. It will give each of your weapons 3 more damage, not impressive but it will make your cast times as fast as possible. With 50 int you are going to do some serious damage and I think we should do everything we can to make that happen. 5 points into dex and 6 points into vita. Best cast times and 166 more health.

If you commit to dragon form or you plan on using a shield/headpiece/gloves some of my advice might drastically change. If you have any questions I'm ready to defend it. Hope this helps you some.

EDIT: I forgot, bloodbite ring is likely going to be a strong choice since you don't need flip cause you are so light. It will pretty much ensure that you do not have to worry about bleeding yourself.

Wow. You should change your name to The Build Doctor.

Glueguy wrote:

WyrmHero wrote:Ok Naked Priscilla with 30 endurance gets 100 bleed resistance, while with 20 she gets 73. With the Bloodbite Ring I get 292 bleed resistance, more than enough to bleed the hell out of my opponents. So 27 points of bleed resistance = 10 points of endurance....I think they are not worth it, considering I may switch RoF with DWGR and use the Green Blossoms. Hum....

At 20 end does your torso stone allow you to do anything after you use it?

I haven't test it, but I think not. I dont have stone btw, it's in progress.

Ok after transforming Priscy into a Dragon I did the dragon torso attack and it drained almost all my stamina. I'm left with a tiny bit of stamina for one R1/R2 attack or dodge.

well you have enough to do one thing afterwards then. Are you comfortable with that? If you are, then get more health or faster cast times. If you want to be able to roll twice or attack twice then get the end.

After testing her on FC I think I'm going for Vit, since she is able to cast spells too. I was occasionally having problems with low stamina but the fast regeneration helps a lot. Thanks guys.

WyrmHero wrote:After testing her on FC I think I'm going for Vit, since she is able to cast spells too. I was occasionally having problems with low stamina but the fast regeneration helps a lot. Thanks guys.

Did you go cloranthy ring?

Green Blossoms