I need help with some stats....

    Share
    avatar
    WyrmHero
    Lordvessel
    Lordvessel

    Posts : 8742
    Reputation : 221
    Join date : 2012-02-16
    Age : 29
    Location : The Painted World

    I need help with some stats....

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:37 am

    So I'm SL 109 going up to 120.



    Vit 30

    Att 16

    End 20

    Str 16

    Dex 40

    Int 50

    faith base

    Res base



    Lifehunt Scythe, Priscillas Dagger, Maiden robes and moonlight waistcloth, could be a Dragon too. I'm using FAP ring. Recommendations for spending those 11 points.


    _________________
    PSN: WyrmHero1945

    Dedicated Blade of the Darkmoon.
    Chaos Legion Str weapons covenant
    avatar
    Railage
    Obsessed
    Obsessed

    Posts : 341
    Reputation : 6
    Join date : 2012-03-14
    Age : 25
    Location : Durant

    Re: I need help with some stats....

    Post by Railage on Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:40 am

    I'm pro Attunement, I love having a lot of spell slots, so I'd bump it to 23 and put the rest into Vit.

    Don't listen to me though, there are probably way better suggestions then mine.

    Cause you're probably just using CMM right?


    _________________
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0D_q5VEaJQ    Chevelle - Sleepwalking Elite
    avatar
    WyrmHero
    Lordvessel
    Lordvessel

    Posts : 8742
    Reputation : 221
    Join date : 2012-02-16
    Age : 29
    Location : The Painted World

    Re: I need help with some stats....

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:45 am

    It's ok with 4 slots imo. I even use Hidden Body, so I could substitute it with another spell. I'm not using CMW, Priscilla's weapons aren't buffable. sad


    _________________
    PSN: WyrmHero1945

    Dedicated Blade of the Darkmoon.
    Chaos Legion Str weapons covenant
    avatar
    Railage
    Obsessed
    Obsessed

    Posts : 341
    Reputation : 6
    Join date : 2012-03-14
    Age : 25
    Location : Durant

    Re: I need help with some stats....

    Post by Railage on Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:58 am

    WyrmHero wrote:It's ok with 4 slots imo. I even use Hidden Body, so I could substitute it with another spell. I'm not using CMW, Priscilla's weapons aren't buffable. sad

    /palm

    I should pay attention sometimes.


    _________________
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0D_q5VEaJQ    Chevelle - Sleepwalking Elite
    avatar
    WyrmHero
    Lordvessel
    Lordvessel

    Posts : 8742
    Reputation : 221
    Join date : 2012-02-16
    Age : 29
    Location : The Painted World

    Re: I need help with some stats....

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:03 am

    It's ok, I was thinking Vitality too, as I don't want to depend on the Fap ring....


    _________________
    PSN: WyrmHero1945

    Dedicated Blade of the Darkmoon.
    Chaos Legion Str weapons covenant
    avatar
    Whknight
    Upgrade Master
    Upgrade Master

    Posts : 1722
    Reputation : 52
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Location : IL

    Re: I need help with some stats....

    Post by Whknight on Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:09 am

    Vitality and/or endurance is what I was thinking.


    _________________



    I don't always bask in the sun, but when I do I am grossly incandescent!

    XBL(Silver) - Whknight009

    Swift and True! Become a member of the Helpers Brigade!

    avatar
    Glueguy
    Casual
    Casual

    Posts : 73
    Reputation : 3
    Join date : 2012-03-14

    Re: I need help with some stats....

    Post by Glueguy on Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:25 am

    WyrmHero wrote:So I'm SL 109 going up to 120.



    Vit 30

    Att 16

    End 20

    Str 16

    Dex 40

    Int 50

    faith base

    Res base



    Lifehunt Scythe, Priscillas Dagger, Maiden robes and moonlight waistcloth, could be a Dragon too. I'm using FAP ring. Recommendations for spending those 11 points.

    Oh boy! Theory crafting builds! This is literally my favorite part of any game and this one is no exception.

    A few things are really important here. Are you going to keep the FaP ring for sure? Are you weapons and armor locked in?

    Well it looks like right now with the FaP ring and the two pieces of armor you listed you have 7.2lbs of weight to toy with before hitting medium roll. This is great because you could wear a light head piece (Crown maybe?) and gloves. Also, you didn't list a shield. Grass crest is always awesome in my book, especially if you are going to two hand that scythe.

    I'm just going to assume that you don't want a shield, headpiece, and gloves for RP purposes or something. If you are going to eat grass before every big fight then you don't need more endurance. If you aren't then I have to recommend you at least get a few more points. As squishy as your armor is you are going to need some more health I think. If you spend 10 points in vita you will gain 270 more max health. (that FaP ring gives you ridiculous returns with pre 40 vita)

    However, giving the nature of this build (super squishy caster) I'm not sure how important all 10 into vita is going to be. I think you will be better putting 5 more points into dex. It will give each of your weapons 3 more damage, not impressive but it will make your cast times as fast as possible. With 50 int you are going to do some serious damage and I think we should do everything we can to make that happen. 5 points into dex and 6 points into vita. Best cast times and 166 more health.

    If you commit to dragon form or you plan on using a shield/headpiece/gloves some of my advice might drastically change. If you have any questions I'm ready to defend it. Hope this helps you some.

    EDIT: I forgot, bloodbite ring is likely going to be a strong choice since you don't need flip cause you are so light. It will pretty much ensure that you do not have to worry about bleeding yourself.


    _________________
    PSN: DoubleDuskDOTcom (Primary account)
    theglueguy (ran out of charater slots account)
    avatar
    WyrmHero
    Lordvessel
    Lordvessel

    Posts : 8742
    Reputation : 221
    Join date : 2012-02-16
    Age : 29
    Location : The Painted World

    Re: I need help with some stats....

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:31 am

    Wow those are pretty nice tips. I took off the FAP ring, I don't want to depend on it. I substituted by the Ring of Fog (Priscilla's turns invisible). Is the casting time of 40 / 45 dex a huge difference???



    Edit: Also I think I'll transform into a Dragon, so armor is not my concern right now.



    Second Edit: I will also eat the Green Blossoms, so I think 20 End is enough...


    _________________
    PSN: WyrmHero1945

    Dedicated Blade of the Darkmoon.
    Chaos Legion Str weapons covenant
    avatar
    Glueguy
    Casual
    Casual

    Posts : 73
    Reputation : 3
    Join date : 2012-03-14

    Re: I need help with some stats....

    Post by Glueguy on Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:01 am

    WyrmHero wrote:Wow those are pretty nice tips. I took off the FAP ring, I don't want to depend on it. I substituted by the Ring of Fog (Priscilla's turns invisible). Is the casting time of 40 / 45 dex a huge difference???



    Edit: Also I think I'll transform into a Dragon, so armor is not my concern right now.

    You just made my whole day. 1: Not relying on fap ring. 2: dragon form.

    Oh baby. Prepare for knowledge to be dropped. To answer your question, no. The difference between 40 dex and 45 is minimal. But a difference is there. And in pvp, milliseconds can be miles of difference. Since you are likely going to commit to dragon form and you mention fog ring you have some real decisions to make.

    Just today I was using fog ring dragon form to try to have fun as a "predator." Get invaded then prowl them while they do their best to find me. Then pounce. It was fun and I learned quite a bit about a new style of play.

    Fog ring is a BEAST when they don't know exactly where you are. But to get the most out of it you can't have active buffs. Stam regen grass will make you stick out like a sore thumb. Not having armor means you have less min/max to worry about and you can focus on your strengths.

    Your new lifeline is dragon body stone. The active pretty much auto staggers people. Then can roll through it just like WoG but you don't need a talisman out so it's much harder to anticipate. It also deflects ranged spells such as soul arrow. It is supposed to work on arrows, bolts, thrown projectiles too but I haven't tested it on any of those yet. Not to mention it gives a nice attack buff.

    The downside? The active uses CRAZY amounts of stamina. With 20 endurance you are looking at just about your whole bar. While stamina regen (grass crest shield, green grass, and cloranthy) indirectly nerfs your fog ring it makes the dragon torso stone much stronger. Also so does base stamina. Since you aren't going to be wearing armor I don't see many options besides 11 points of endurance. You could sneak in some health but you have to look at your bleed resist without armor now. It's at 73. 11 points of endurance later it's 101. Since your scythe causes you bleed I don't see any way around getting all the points of endurance you can. Unless your going to blood bite ring. Then you technically have more options but you want to be able to do stuff after that torso stone use, such as roll or maybe torso stone again to deflect another CHSM.

    Dragon form is versatile and tons of fun. But with where your stats are at this point I really can't recommend anything but more endurance. Bleed resist plus the ability to use your stone better or chain attack longer so you can make them bleed seems to be the best course of action.

    EDIT: I got called away from my pc at work and I hit post without making sure the post was complete. Thought I should add that if you are dead set against getting all endurance i'm sure we can work something out. It just seems pretty strong considering your other ring slot is likely going to be given to a dragoncrest ring. (don't discount slumbering dc ring with ring of fog silly)


    _________________
    PSN: DoubleDuskDOTcom (Primary account)
    theglueguy (ran out of charater slots account)
    avatar
    aceluby
    Insomniac
    Insomniac

    Posts : 1208
    Reputation : 46
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Age : 34
    Location : Minneapolis, MN

    Re: I need help with some stats....

    Post by aceluby on Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:34 am

    I think where you put those 11 points is going to highly depend on how you are going to use the character. Is it going to be mainly melee w/ some magic or mainly magic w/ some melee. Also, what spells are you using and what is your other ring?


    _________________
    Aceluby on PSN, add me!

    SL41 Pyro/Dex Sephiroth cosplay
    SL120 Fth/Int Pure Caster
    SL120 Fth DW
    SL120 Int DW
    avatar
    WyrmHero
    Lordvessel
    Lordvessel

    Posts : 8742
    Reputation : 221
    Join date : 2012-02-16
    Age : 29
    Location : The Painted World

    Re: I need help with some stats....

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:22 pm

    I will be using White Dragon Breath, CSS, CHSM and Gravelord Greatsword Dance. My other ring can be DWGR or Wolf Ring, and she's fighting more melee than magic.


    _________________
    PSN: WyrmHero1945

    Dedicated Blade of the Darkmoon.
    Chaos Legion Str weapons covenant
    avatar
    aceluby
    Insomniac
    Insomniac

    Posts : 1208
    Reputation : 46
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Age : 34
    Location : Minneapolis, MN

    Re: I need help with some stats....

    Post by aceluby on Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:05 pm

    In that case I'd definitely pump those stats into End.


    _________________
    Aceluby on PSN, add me!

    SL41 Pyro/Dex Sephiroth cosplay
    SL120 Fth/Int Pure Caster
    SL120 Fth DW
    SL120 Int DW
    avatar
    WyrmHero
    Lordvessel
    Lordvessel

    Posts : 8742
    Reputation : 221
    Join date : 2012-02-16
    Age : 29
    Location : The Painted World

    Re: I need help with some stats....

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:31 pm

    Damn it decisions, decisions... Is 1100 HP without armor/light armor enough??


    _________________
    PSN: WyrmHero1945

    Dedicated Blade of the Darkmoon.
    Chaos Legion Str weapons covenant
    avatar
    WyrmHero
    Lordvessel
    Lordvessel

    Posts : 8742
    Reputation : 221
    Join date : 2012-02-16
    Age : 29
    Location : The Painted World

    Re: I need help with some stats....

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:50 pm

    Ok Naked Priscilla with 30 endurance gets 100 bleed resistance, while with 20 she gets 73. With the Bloodbite Ring I get 292 bleed resistance, more than enough to bleed the hell out of my opponents. So 27 points of bleed resistance = 10 points of endurance....I think they are not worth it, considering I may switch RoF with DWGR and use the Green Blossoms. Hum....


    _________________
    PSN: WyrmHero1945

    Dedicated Blade of the Darkmoon.
    Chaos Legion Str weapons covenant
    avatar
    Glueguy
    Casual
    Casual

    Posts : 73
    Reputation : 3
    Join date : 2012-03-14

    Re: I need help with some stats....

    Post by Glueguy on Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:13 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:Ok Naked Priscilla with 30 endurance gets 100 bleed resistance, while with 20 she gets 73. With the Bloodbite Ring I get 292 bleed resistance, more than enough to bleed the hell out of my opponents. So 27 points of bleed resistance = 10 points of endurance....I think they are not worth it, considering I may switch RoF with DWGR and use the Green Blossoms. Hum....

    At 20 end does your torso stone allow you to do anything after you use it?


    _________________
    PSN: DoubleDuskDOTcom (Primary account)
    theglueguy (ran out of charater slots account)
    avatar
    Tolvo
    Town Crier
    Town Crier

    Posts : 13287
    Reputation : 542
    Join date : 2012-02-01
    Age : 25
    Location : The Forest, Illinois

    Re: I need help with some stats....

    Post by Tolvo on Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:16 pm

    By the way just a heads up Wyrm, I wouldn't rely too much on bleeding out people in the eastern set. That armor actually gives a decent bleed resistance, Tolvo out.

    callipygias
    Hollowed
    Hollowed

    Posts : 1776
    Reputation : 93
    Join date : 2012-02-18
    Age : 48
    Location : Oregon, US

    Re: I need help with some stats....

    Post by callipygias on Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:19 pm

    Glueguy wrote:Oh boy! Theory crafting builds! This is literally my favorite part of any game and this one is no exception.

    A few things are really important here. Are you going to keep the FaP ring for sure? Are you weapons and armor locked in?

    Well it looks like right now with the FaP ring and the two pieces of armor you listed you have 7.2lbs of weight to toy with before hitting medium roll. This is great because you could wear a light head piece (Crown maybe?) and gloves. Also, you didn't list a shield. Grass crest is always awesome in my book, especially if you are going to two hand that scythe.

    I'm just going to assume that you don't want a shield, headpiece, and gloves for RP purposes or something. If you are going to eat grass before every big fight then you don't need more endurance. If you aren't then I have to recommend you at least get a few more points. As squishy as your armor is you are going to need some more health I think. If you spend 10 points in vita you will gain 270 more max health. (that FaP ring gives you ridiculous returns with pre 40 vita)

    However, giving the nature of this build (super squishy caster) I'm not sure how important all 10 into vita is going to be. I think you will be better putting 5 more points into dex. It will give each of your weapons 3 more damage, not impressive but it will make your cast times as fast as possible. With 50 int you are going to do some serious damage and I think we should do everything we can to make that happen. 5 points into dex and 6 points into vita. Best cast times and 166 more health.

    If you commit to dragon form or you plan on using a shield/headpiece/gloves some of my advice might drastically change. If you have any questions I'm ready to defend it. Hope this helps you some.

    EDIT: I forgot, bloodbite ring is likely going to be a strong choice since you don't need flip cause you are so light. It will pretty much ensure that you do not have to worry about bleeding yourself.

    Wow. You should change your name to The Build Doctor.
    avatar
    WyrmHero
    Lordvessel
    Lordvessel

    Posts : 8742
    Reputation : 221
    Join date : 2012-02-16
    Age : 29
    Location : The Painted World

    Re: I need help with some stats....

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:25 pm

    Glueguy wrote:
    WyrmHero wrote:Ok Naked Priscilla with 30 endurance gets 100 bleed resistance, while with 20 she gets 73. With the Bloodbite Ring I get 292 bleed resistance, more than enough to bleed the hell out of my opponents. So 27 points of bleed resistance = 10 points of endurance....I think they are not worth it, considering I may switch RoF with DWGR and use the Green Blossoms. Hum....

    At 20 end does your torso stone allow you to do anything after you use it?



    I haven't test it, but I think not. I dont have stone btw, it's in progress.


    _________________
    PSN: WyrmHero1945

    Dedicated Blade of the Darkmoon.
    Chaos Legion Str weapons covenant
    avatar
    WyrmHero
    Lordvessel
    Lordvessel

    Posts : 8742
    Reputation : 221
    Join date : 2012-02-16
    Age : 29
    Location : The Painted World

    Re: I need help with some stats....

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:00 pm

    Ok after transforming Priscy into a Dragon I did the dragon torso attack and it drained almost all my stamina. I'm left with a tiny bit of stamina for one R1/R2 attack or dodge.


    _________________
    PSN: WyrmHero1945

    Dedicated Blade of the Darkmoon.
    Chaos Legion Str weapons covenant
    avatar
    Glueguy
    Casual
    Casual

    Posts : 73
    Reputation : 3
    Join date : 2012-03-14

    Re: I need help with some stats....

    Post by Glueguy on Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:06 pm

    well you have enough to do one thing afterwards then. Are you comfortable with that? If you are, then get more health or faster cast times. If you want to be able to roll twice or attack twice then get the end.


    _________________
    PSN: DoubleDuskDOTcom (Primary account)
    theglueguy (ran out of charater slots account)
    avatar
    WyrmHero
    Lordvessel
    Lordvessel

    Posts : 8742
    Reputation : 221
    Join date : 2012-02-16
    Age : 29
    Location : The Painted World

    Re: I need help with some stats....

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:36 am

    After testing her on FC I think I'm going for Vit, since she is able to cast spells too. I was occasionally having problems with low stamina but the fast regeneration helps a lot. Thanks guys.


    _________________
    PSN: WyrmHero1945

    Dedicated Blade of the Darkmoon.
    Chaos Legion Str weapons covenant
    avatar
    Glueguy
    Casual
    Casual

    Posts : 73
    Reputation : 3
    Join date : 2012-03-14

    Re: I need help with some stats....

    Post by Glueguy on Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:18 am

    WyrmHero wrote:After testing her on FC I think I'm going for Vit, since she is able to cast spells too. I was occasionally having problems with low stamina but the fast regeneration helps a lot. Thanks guys.

    Did you go cloranthy ring?


    _________________
    PSN: DoubleDuskDOTcom (Primary account)
    theglueguy (ran out of charater slots account)
    avatar
    WyrmHero
    Lordvessel
    Lordvessel

    Posts : 8742
    Reputation : 221
    Join date : 2012-02-16
    Age : 29
    Location : The Painted World

    Re: I need help with some stats....

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:39 am

    Green Blossoms


    _________________
    PSN: WyrmHero1945

    Dedicated Blade of the Darkmoon.
    Chaos Legion Str weapons covenant

    Sponsored content

    Re: I need help with some stats....

    Post by Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:53 pm