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    Max Soul Level

    Post by dalsio on Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:04 pm

    Has anyone hit maximum soul level? Most people seem to reach a certain point and then either stop to PvP or roll another character.

    I myself haven't ever done it, but I've been thinking of going for it lately and I'm confident it would take a lot of time.


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    Re: Max Soul Level

    Post by reim0027 on Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:06 pm

    I'm sure there are many people who have done it legit. Huge time commitment though.


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    Re: Max Soul Level

    Post by dalsio on Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:35 pm

    It's not too bad, just pop in for a bit every day and grab a boss or two, and then be on your way. My only concern is whether or not I'll be able to do it by the time DS2 comes out.

    If anyone has any tips, they'd be much appreciated. 

    For instance, which way would be faster: Farming souls in some of the common areas, or
    doing some sort of boss-rush?


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    Re: Max Soul Level

    Post by Reaperfan on Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:54 pm

    dalsio wrote:It's not too bad, just pop in for a bit every day and grab a boss or two, and then be on your way. My only concern is whether or not I'll be able to do it by the time DS2 comes out.

    If anyone has any tips, they'd be much appreciated. 

    For instance, which way would be faster: Farming souls in some of the common areas, or
    doing some sort of boss-rush?
    Farming souls will generally be faster than boss rushing multiple playthroughs, though it would still be best to get to NG+7 beforehand for the most souls gained when farming.

    Most people I've heard of that go for max level get their souls through PvP though.


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    Re: Max Soul Level

    Post by dalsio on Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:15 am

    I suppose that makes sense. Enemies don't scale at higher soul levels, but other players do. I don't really tend to PvP much, but I may have to if I wanna make it to the top in any reasonable time.


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    Re: Max Soul Level

    Post by skarekrow13 on Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:40 am

    I have a SL 230ish (somewhere in that range) and I'll warn you that it takes a loooooooot of souls to get anywhere. Good luck and hopefully you have better PvP results than I do.

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    Re: Max Soul Level

    Post by SadPanda on Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:45 am

    My highest legit is SL500. Around 300 hours on him.


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    Re: Max Soul Level

    Post by Serious_Much on Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:14 am

    The best way is staying at pvp level, get we bough souls to max then level up. Doing bosses is far more time comsuming


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    Re: Max Soul Level

    Post by Hugh_G_Johnson on Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:55 am

    I saw this idea in a post on here a long time ago; get a friend and take turns killing each other with the RSS.  Have the host win for more souls of course, unless you need to level your friend up first.  


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    Re: Max Soul Level

    Post by AnCapaillMor on Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:07 am

    Dark needs a level like Demons's 4-2 and 4-3 for levelling up. Forest i suppose would be your best, farming forest cov bro's.


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    Re: Max Soul Level

    Post by Serious_Much on Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:09 am

    Painted world phalanx are good to farm- just WoG spamming


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    Re: Max Soul Level

    Post by Uparkaam on Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:38 am

    PvP in the Forest. Doesn't really matter whether you're a host, phantom, DW, SoV or FH. You'll get a lot of souls there.


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    Re: Max Soul Level

    Post by Soul of Stray Demon on Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:33 pm

    Serious_Much wrote:Painted world phalanx are good to farm- just WoG spamming
    Huh, I just use firetempest, kills almost all of them in one hit.

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    Re: Max Soul Level

    Post by Latitoast on Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:40 pm

    Do the guys with 99 in each stat at the top of the book of the guilty count?

    You know, the health hackers with infinite health at SL1 :l


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    Re: Max Soul Level

    Post by JoeBroski09 on Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:55 pm

    I used to know some people on the forums here whom had max level characters. Though, idk if it was legit leveling or back when the dragon head glitch was available. The max level itself is like 715 or something, though it depends on your starting class. 

    I remember someone (I think it was Rynn) made a thread asking why there wasn't more people who did max level PvP? The person found it very fun because it was extremely balanced, and the players could choose any equipment they wanted and still could have fun.

    Everyone said "Because it takes forever to get there legitimately, and hacking/glitching isn't an option for most people"


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    Re: Max Soul Level

    Post by callipygias on Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:05 am

    Virtually impossible anyone could ever max legit.  I hit the 999:59:59 mark on my main character a very, VERY long time ago.  I do continuous playthroughs on him in human form for the occasional pvp, since camping pvp doesn't feel like Dark Souls to me.  I'm on about NG+115 or so (judging from my FaP rings), and I just recently stopped at 469.
    Only legit way to get even close to max would be hosting constant pvp at one of the hot spots, but even then... no way.  Only way anyone could do it now is by having a high-level friend invade and suicide over and over and over.  I'm sure there are people that do it.


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    Re: Max Soul Level

    Post by ScottyDoesKnow on Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:45 am

    callipygias wrote:Only legit way to get even close to max would be hosting constant pvp at one of the hot spots, but even then... no way.  Only way anyone could do it now is by having a high-level friend invade and suicide over and over and over.  I'm sure there are people that do it.
    Ya, if you and a friend really want to level to max, you're getting half a level per duel. So that's around 1400 duels per player or 2800 total. It's a lot but over the time the game has been out, easily doable.
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    Re: Max Soul Level

    Post by retro on Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:29 pm

    Yeah I'm a little skeptical that anyone has leveled up to max legitimately (let alone many). The math doesn't look upon this idea favorably. Here's something I wrote about it in the past:

    This calculator says it takes 1,692,567,156 souls to reach level 713:
    https://sites.google.com/site/darksoulstats/dark-souls-calculators/mini-calcs

    If you were a host killing level 125 invaders over and over, you'd have to do it 34,132 times to get that many souls.

    Here's the one way I could imagine doing it:

    -The way to get the most souls is being a host, killing the highest level invaders possible.
    -Find a partner who is a member of the Darkmoon covenant. Make sure they are the highest level possible above you. It's a common misconception that they can invade any level lower if the host has enough sin. It doesn't work that way; It's actually just a fixed level range so you can't have a max level invade you.
    -If you're level 120, for example, the Darkmoon can be no higher than level 212.
    -You go to a low traffic area like the Ceaseless Discharge bridge, and your friend voluntarily invades you over and over and suicidies every time.
    -You use these souls to level up, and then the Darkmoon levels up as well.

    It would actually only take 381 kills of a max level invader to get enough souls, as a host killing a max level invader drops 4,439,674 souls.

    The only problem with this is that of course the Darkmoon isn't going to be max level the whole time, you're going to be working your way up there together, so it'll probably take thousands of voluntary suicides from a Darkmoon partner in the end. And then on top of that, there's also the issue of how the Darkmoon gets souls? Are you going to invade them as well so they can level legitimately? That's going to take forever. Or, your Darkmoon partner cheats their levels... but then if your partner cheated, it basically means you still didn't level legitimately if you relied on that.

    tl;dr - All max level players cheated or used exploits to get there.
    I'm sure a number of people have gotten pretty high level doing this (~400 - ~500), but I don't know about 711 - 713.


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    Re: Max Soul Level

    Post by GrinTwist on Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:34 pm

    It sounds like a pain to do, I'd just start at SL 55 myself and just keep on doing co-op in a high traffic area for a while. After that I would move my life to the forest and never see the sun again until I hit max level.


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    Re: Max Soul Level

    Post by callipygias on Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:26 pm

    Then you'd never see the sun again.


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