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    New Demon's Playthrough: Ideas Needed

    Post by Emergence on Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:06 pm

    Alright as the title says it's time for Murgence to get back into Demon's and return home to the crucible that forged the amazesome Fexergence team you all know and are forced to love or else. We haven't had a wiki stream in a bit so I want to revive that (get it?) and do something fun and unique, and maybe even sprinkle in a little 4-1 dueling. So I ask: ideas? The best moments are the organic community ones so I want to see as many people participating and watching as possible so that means the concept should be fun and fresh. What would you like to see?


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    Re: New Demon's Playthrough: Ideas Needed

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:23 pm

    Let Yurt kill everyone.

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    Re: New Demon's Playthrough: Ideas Needed

    Post by Skaggy on Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:29 pm

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    Re: New Demon's Playthrough: Ideas Needed

    Post by Walter_White on Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:39 pm

    Do 1-1 naked, bare fist
    only parry & riposte allowed
    phalanx are firebombs and turpentined dagger allowed

    do 5 without using lotus or magic/miracle

    don't use any ranged attack

    only use daggers


    so much ideas....


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    Re: New Demon's Playthrough: Ideas Needed

    Post by Sentiel on Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:53 pm

    How about giving me your PSN and doing a co-op run with me? I have a new SL4 lady knight that would love some Emerging company. winking 
    lol! 

    I'm sick of DkS thanks to meeting 4 hackers in 1 hour and after the guide thread, I'm itching for some DeS.

    Failure to comply may result in some very nasty invasions with Baby's Nail and Scraping Spear. twisted 

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    Re: New Demon's Playthrough: Ideas Needed

    Post by twigsterxd on Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:24 pm

    Saw a video on youtube of this guy doing a naked sl 1 flamelurker
    I've done a solo sl 1 with a crescent falchion, would like to see you do it with a dagger, (no buffs btw)
    Are you capping at 120 for pvp?
    Can you post a link to this stream when you start it? I wanna try to get ps3 playin nice and want to see this


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    Re: New Demon's Playthrough: Ideas Needed

    Post by RANT on Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:44 am

    Phosphorescent pole or istarrele build!!!


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    Re: New Demon's Playthrough: Ideas Needed

    Post by densetsushun on Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:36 am

    Sentiel wrote:How about giving me your PSN and doing a co-op run with me? I have a new SL4 lady knight that would love some Emerging company. winking 
    lol! 

    I'm sick of DkS thanks to meeting 4 hackers in 1 hour and after the guide thread, I'm itching for some DeS.

    Failure to comply may result in some very nasty invasions with Baby's Nail and Scraping Spear. twisted 
    Senty, as far as I know E plays on the US servers, and unless you have a US copy of DeS you wouldn't be able to play it.


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    Re: New Demon's Playthrough: Ideas Needed

    Post by skarekrow13 on Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:47 am

    So rather than make a new thread I figured I'd hijack E's.

    I haven't played in over three years so I'm doing a n00b run. Aka, just playing. Having a blast but I honestly don't recall the parry window being so generous or the backstab window for that matter. I'm taking most things down like a champ which I don't recall doing the first time. The enemy AI is soooooo much better than Dark though. I had a blue eye knight try to shield fake me. 

     Anyway, back on topic I don't know if you need a gimmick run E. Maybe do a play through showing off some of the ways Demon's is different than Dark. The activity was high last night online. Seems like a lot of fresh blood

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    Re: New Demon's Playthrough: Ideas Needed

    Post by steveswede on Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:19 pm

    Be Old Monk boss but fight with shields or just crossbows. Other than that there isn't really much more you can bleed out of that game as most of the extreme play styles have been covered.

    You could for fun though have competitions testing yourself how many times you can roll on that walkway where that device shoots those arrows before you get killed. Most likely only be fun for 30 seconds but I've yet to see anyone make a game out of it.
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    Re: New Demon's Playthrough: Ideas Needed

    Post by Reaperfan on Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:53 pm

    Well if you're going for an entertaining watching experience for the viewers, I'm thinking you might wanna avoid a Mage build. For something more interesting, I'd recommend using one of the more off-color weapons like the Bramd, Rune Sword, Blind, etc. Just something most people don't see too often. Another thing that, while more popularly done, would still be fun is a straight-up knight. No special weapons or fancy armors. Just you and some basic gear.

    For full-on weird builds, I like the dual Fists of God run (though I can say you'll run into problems with the Leechmonger so prepare an off-strategy ahead of time) or a pure archer. Never done or seen a pure archer in DeS before winking


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    Re: New Demon's Playthrough: Ideas Needed

    Post by Sentiel on Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:56 pm

    densetsushun wrote:
    Sentiel wrote:How about giving me your PSN and doing a co-op run with me? I have a new SL4 lady knight that would love some Emerging company. winking 
    lol! 

    I'm sick of DkS thanks to meeting 4 hackers in 1 hour and after the guide thread, I'm itching for some DeS.

    Failure to comply may result in some very nasty invasions with Baby's Nail and Scraping Spear. twisted 
    Senty, as far as I know E plays on the US servers, and unless you have a US copy of DeS you wouldn't be able to play it.
    What?!
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    Re: New Demon's Playthrough: Ideas Needed

    Post by densetsushun on Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:50 pm

    I've actually been considering making a dual Blind wielding Selen, perhaps that sounds like something.


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    Re: New Demon's Playthrough: Ideas Needed

    Post by Sentiel on Sat Jul 06, 2013 4:04 pm

    Sounds like something I don't want to meet at best. silly

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    Re: New Demon's Playthrough: Ideas Needed

    Post by passivefamiliar on Sat Jul 06, 2013 4:15 pm

    densetsushun wrote:I've actually been considering making a dual Blind wielding Selen, perhaps that sounds like something.

     
    that sounds interesting. i wouldnt know how to approach that one. my instict wouldr kick in, 'kill it, kill it with fire!' but that would be interesting.

    sadly most things have been done. i've replayed a few times, just...play. no builds, just hit the archstones and focus on pvp. i've gone from purewhite to pure black a few times a day doing pvp, helping and being the old monk.

    play till you find a new person, like NEW and then follow with them through the whole game. i've done that with a couple new friends now. played from almost start to finish with them.


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    Re: New Demon's Playthrough: Ideas Needed

    Post by densetsushun on Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:03 am

    That sounds tedious...


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    Post by Myztyrio on Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:54 am

    Want tedious? Soul arrow only.


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    Re: New Demon's Playthrough: Ideas Needed

    Post by Sentiel on Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:01 am

    Myztyrio wrote:Want tedious? Soul arrow only.
    Put a gum on R1 button and go shopping.

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    Re: New Demon's Playthrough: Ideas Needed

    Post by Emergence on Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:55 am

    Some decent thoughts so far. Pure archer raised my interest a little. There's always Protect the Murgence too.


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    Re: New Demon's Playthrough: Ideas Needed

    Post by Sentiel on Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:04 am

    Emergence wrote:There's always "Let others do all the work for me" too.
    Fixed it for you.

    Frankly, I would gladly do it. Too bad I have a EU version only.

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    Re: New Demon's Playthrough: Ideas Needed

    Post by twigsterxd on Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:08 am

    In chat we started talking bout hyper mode. Low build hypers are awesome


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    Re: New Demon's Playthrough: Ideas Needed

    Post by befowler on Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:22 pm

    There's no easy way to say this, so I'll just say it:  mail breakers.  I am in no way good at this game, and I am killing people left and right with these things.  They weigh nothing, cost almost no stamina, and seem to have infinite stunlock.  They also get a bunch of fun upgrade paths, and critical bonuses.  Everyone also seems to mistake them for daggers or baby nails or something, so block + stab is often a surprise and good stunlock opener.  Roll stabs also have great range and are nearly instantaneous, so when folks finally realize what has happened and back off to grass you can just give 'em a roll love tap to the sternum and that's that. 

    So, whatever you do, include mail breakers.  You can find one in 1-1, or start as a Knight.  I recently sprinted a sl1 over the drake bridge in 1-1 and killed the entire pack of 10+ pursuing troops with nothing but a mail breaker +0 and some miracle rolls (I couldn't get inside the doorway before they caught me).  It was basically like this:

    http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0439.html


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    Re: New Demon's Playthrough: Ideas Needed

    Post by skarekrow13 on Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:24 pm

    I almost did this idea for my new playthrough:

    Chronicles of a born again n00b.  Essentially, there's no real rules to the playthrough but after each section you're required to work on a diary entry stating the highlights (and lowlights) of your session.  

    for example my first night back in boletaria:

    After a very abrupt character creation (I want to jump back in) I'm asked if I want to take my newborn knight into the tutorial stage.  It's been three years since I traversed Boletaria and I've got a bone to pick with a certain demon at the end of this.  Yes...bring on the tutorial.  

    Into the darkness I begin and I'm soon to recall the glory of the fat roll.  May my shield protect me.  My agility will not.  I decide that after 600 hours of Souls games I "should" know how to parry.  Wait, I did it.  First try.  Seems easier than I remember.  Maybe I got lucky.  Nope.  Demon's seems easier than Dark.  I'm parrying the heck outta these fools.  I also wonder at the sadism inherent in placing blue eye knights in the tutorial.  Seriously?  That's just mean.  Even if they aren't as strong on the inside.  The first tries to shield fake me (the AI is better than Demon's).  I don't fall for it and......PARRY!  Ha ha ha!

    Finally I'm at Mr. DemonGonnaKillYa.  I prepare my half moon grass.  I know he's gonna hit hard.  Even fat rolling I'm avoiding most of his attacks.  Confidence!  I have a quarter of his life down already.  I got this.  I roll back instead of to the side.  

    Welcome to the Nexus!  

    Ahhh.....my depressing blue aura friend.  I'll talk to you later.  

    I'm finding my memory is still good.  A thief ring, cling ring, broadsword and crossbow later confirm that I recall almost everything.  It's a little sad actually.  Despite some wacky AI and pacing, I save Ostrava's rear end.  On to the Phalanx.  Firebombs and turpentine.  That was fast.  

    On to the Tower Knight.  But not before I mistime my "sprint" to avoid the first round of Dragon fire.  

    On to the Tower Knight Round 2:  The archer group with the Blue Eye Knight backup.  You're just sick From.  You know that?  Just...plain...sick.  

    The archers in the tower knight battle.  I pity da fools. The knight.  I'm doing ok.  I need to heal a couple times.  I come back to ankle chopping.  I get hit hard by the shield.  I realize crescent moon grass isn't gonna cut it.  I toggle to the half moon.  I hit the square button.  

    I'm looking at the Tower Knight through a nifty piece of glass housed in brass that Ostrava thought would come in handy for me.  It does.  I get a great view of my impending death.


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    Re: New Demon's Playthrough: Ideas Needed

    Post by befowler on Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:37 pm

    Great narrative, I have been doing something similar.  I'd beaten DeS a few times a long time ago with pretty cheesy regen builds (and one that was purely offline, since I didn't have internet on my original Ps3).  Now playing through it again with some low level builds and really enjoying it.  Probably my favorite death so far was wiping out group of archers, assassins, and fat official in 1-3 like a water veiled boss, and then turning around and walking right into an immobile fire boulder for full damage just as my buff wore off.

    Also, I have been invaded a lot, it is still quite active for PvP.  Several were scraping spear + adjudicator shield builds, 4+ years in and these guys are still hard at work.


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    Re: New Demon's Playthrough: Ideas Needed

    Post by skarekrow13 on Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:01 pm

    Thanks. If there's interest I'll keep doing it (not in E's thread though) until I either beat the game or grow bored


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