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    THIS is a tryhard build

    Post by Lmaousine on Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:50 am

    http://mmdks.com/2qqi SL 100
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    How to use in 5 easy steps
    Step 1: Cast TWoP as your opponent is bowing
    Step 2: Cast Pursuers while spamming Dark bead
    Step 3: When your opponent's guard breaks, backstab.
    Step 4:"Well, what is it?"(Shrug or Look Skyward work just as well)
    Step 5: Bask in the glory that is hatemail


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    Re: THIS is a tryhard build

    Post by Avenger649 on Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:29 am

    What if they have the silver pendant, or hidden body, or strong magic shield or vow of silence. Sorry but that is certainly not the most tryhard build I have ever seen.


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    Re: THIS is a tryhard build

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    Re: THIS is a tryhard build

    Post by LunarFog on Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:16 pm

    Yep that looks like a pretty half-baked build.  I would curbstomp someone using that in seconds.

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    Re: THIS is a tryhard build

    Post by ICEFANG on Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:21 pm

    Whyd o you want to do this so badly? This build with only 3 beads and only 1 persuer and can be avoided for 10 seconds. This build would never ever work in a somewhat serious PvP match. Its just too frail to do it. Target Shield? Why? So much HP? If you're going to be spamming magic, better off with starting HP and killing people who have less opinions (as in, they have HP) or less HP (as in they have other stats).


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    Re: THIS is a tryhard build

    Post by Dibsville on Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:23 pm

    ICEFANG wrote:Whyd o you want to do this so badly? This build with only 3 beads and only 1 persuer and can be avoided for 10 seconds. This build would never ever work in a somewhat serious PvP match. Its just too frail to do it. Target Shield? Why? So much HP? If you're going to be spamming magic, better off with starting HP and killing people who have less opinions (as in, they have HP) or less HP (as in they have other stats).


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    Re: THIS is a tryhard build

    Post by Lmaousine on Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:41 pm

    Avenger649 wrote:What if they have the silver pendant, or hidden body, or strong magic shield or vow of silence. Sorry but that is certainly not the most tryhard build I have ever seen.


    The vulnerability time of casting those spells would lead to a backstab. We're talking about playing dishonorably here.


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    Re: THIS is a tryhard build

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:49 pm

    LunarFog wrote:Yep that looks like a pretty half-baked build.  I would curbstomp someone using that in seconds.
    ^Pretty much this would be me. Really you are using the spam magic hide behind shield poke thing or the parry spam thing. Which means most place magic can be dodged and TWoP is not hard to stay away from and I would counter it with a spear, a heavy weapon, WoG, or I could bs fish you and just leave. This is not what I call tryhard.


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    Re: THIS is a tryhard build

    Post by Lmaousine on Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:55 pm

    ICEFANG wrote:Why do you want to do this so badly? This build with only 3 beads and only 1 persuer and can be avoided for 10 seconds. This build would never ever work in a somewhat serious PvP match. Its just too frail to do it. Target Shield? Why? So much HP? If you're going to be spamming magic, better off with starting HP and killing people who have less opinions (as in, they have HP) or less HP (as in they have other stats).


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    Re: THIS is a tryhard build

    Post by Dibsville on Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:56 pm

    Lmaousine wrote:
    ICEFANG wrote:Why do you want to do this so badly? This build with only 3 beads and only 1 persuer and can be avoided for 10 seconds. This build would never ever work in a somewhat serious PvP match. Its just too frail to do it. Target Shield? Why? So much HP? If you're going to be spamming magic, better off with starting HP and killing people who have less opinions (as in, they have HP) or less HP (as in they have other stats).


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    >Has never used a Hyper Mage
    >Thinks that build will get killed


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    Re: THIS is a tryhard build

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:02 pm

    That is a one bs death sentence or anyone with VoS.


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    Re: THIS is a tryhard build

    Post by Lmaousine on Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:08 pm

    Dibsville wrote:
    Lmaousine wrote:
    ICEFANG wrote:Why do you want to do this so badly? This build with only 3 beads and only 1 persuer and can be avoided for 10 seconds. This build would never ever work in a somewhat serious PvP match. Its just too frail to do it. Target Shield? Why? So much HP? If you're going to be spamming magic, better off with starting HP and killing people who have less opinions (as in, they have HP) or less HP (as in they have other stats).


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    >Has never used a Hyper Mage
    >Thinks that build will get killed
    >Hyper mages are easily defeated by spears or bows
    >Nearly impossible to build without mega mule
    >High Health is to poise stab, don't assume that I'm only going to use magic


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    Re: THIS is a tryhard build

    Post by BrotherBob on Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:12 pm

    But what happens when you face a player with a Stone/Havel's Greatshield. With those shields, Dark Magic and WotG is just laughable.


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    Re: THIS is a tryhard build

    Post by Dibsville on Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:17 pm

    Lmaousine wrote:
    Dibsville wrote:
    Lmaousine wrote:
    ICEFANG wrote:Why do you want to do this so badly? This build with only 3 beads and only 1 persuer and can be avoided for 10 seconds. This build would never ever work in a somewhat serious PvP match. Its just too frail to do it. Target Shield? Why? So much HP? If you're going to be spamming magic, better off with starting HP and killing people who have less opinions (as in, they have HP) or less HP (as in they have other stats).


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    >Has never used a Hyper Mage
    >Thinks that build will get killed
    >Hyper mages are easily defeated by spears or bows
    >Nearly impossible to build without mega mule
    >High Health is to poise stab, don't assume that I'm only going to use magic
    >Hyper Mages should never get near someone with a spear, they can easily beat a Bow.
    >Easily built without MM, Forest invasions.
    >DWGR takes care of criticals


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    Re: THIS is a tryhard build

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:34 pm

    if you want tryhard, why are you sticking to a level cap, just over level and host with the dried finger and a couple of buddies: http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=358287989164580680


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    Re: THIS is a tryhard build

    Post by LunarFog on Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:41 pm

    As you can tell from the general tone of the thread, you can safely assume that your build is garbo would need a serious overhaul to be effective.  Downrepping me won't change that fact.

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    Re: THIS is a tryhard build

    Post by SirArchmage on Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:54 pm

    Your liberal use of the word try hard, overly-defensive actions to a community trying to correct your statement, and thought that "tryhard" players just play dishonorably, it a bit disheartening.


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    Re: THIS is a tryhard build

    Post by ICEFANG on Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:58 pm

    You aren't poise back stabbing anything with 8 vit, just accept that. I put STR at 10 so you can use Grass Crest and Crest and Dragon Crests.

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    Re: THIS is a tryhard build

    Post by StiffNipples on Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:56 pm

    I pretty regularly play a hypermage, it's pretty easy to make without a mule as you one shot most bosses once you get some pyros.

    I will say though that bows are it's greatest weakness, and it may just be because I'm in AUS, but I very rarely win against a bow user as arrows just hit me even if I dodge them due to lag, and at <25hp a bee's fart kills me.

    Spears aren't any threat at all, in fact after bows Thorns Armour is the biggest threat.

    The only reason to go min vit is to hypermage in my opinion, if you're going for backstabs you might as well get some vit.

    Also what you're trying to do I would consider 'tryhard' (going out of your way (ie trying very hard) to be a troll and dishonourable to try and make people mad) but I wouldn't consider that build as tryhard. The playstyle yes, the build, no.


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    Re: THIS is a tryhard build

    Post by reim0027 on Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:27 pm

    Nope.  Not tryhard.  But, then again, I don't think any build is "tryhard".  Effective for ganking, however.


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    Re: THIS is a tryhard build

    Post by swordiris on Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:53 pm

    Again I don't believe in the use of the word try hard.

    However I believe the build you are looking for is being used by OnlyAfro.


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    Re: THIS is a tryhard build

    Post by Dibsville on Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:10 am

    It's not a tryhard build without DWGR.

    That's like Tryhard 101.


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    Re: THIS is a tryhard build

    Post by Rifter7 on Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:26 am

    THIS is a self-proclaimed tryhard build
    Fixed that for you.


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    Re: THIS is a tryhard build

    Post by TheMeInTeam on Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:44 am

    Twop combined with placing it on spawn is the way to go if you want to be a cheesmaster.  Not my cup of tea; while no actual pvp tactic bothers me it's not fun for me to fight people who don't get a chance to do anything back.  Doing 1 thing for 90% of encounters gets boring.

    That said, it's effective.  I would recommend TWoP with dead angling wrath of gods instead of this build; you have more stat versatility, it's easier to get, and you can still stagger ---> hornet BS people thanks to unlocked dead angles + pivot BS.  While a bit harder to execute, the damage would still be completely obnoxious (especially with ring of sun's firstborn + crown for it) and it would actually work BETTER against magic resistant greatshields.

    With the extra stat points you can distribute them as you see fit or grief lower levels...whatever works.

    Here's a nice cheapshot build:

    http://mmdks.com/2sc8

    TWoP, dead angle WoG, backstab.  You could also dead angle WoG into the sword dance.  Nice and cheap.

    The bow is there for runners, stragglers, and pre-engage harassment.  I used the shortbow because it's light.

    If you don't want to be in the gravelord covenant, you can switch in another WoG (lots of NG+ though), emit force, or whatever else you want there (big healing would be lulzy to have on hand if doing legit route and invading).

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