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    Help concerning a Dex/Int build

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:46 pm

    She has a katana, dont have spells yet but she will. Im always get beaten up by poise higher than mine. Shes not supposed to have poise at all (must wear robes).


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    Re: Help concerning a Dex/Int build

    Post by Gol on Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:50 pm

    Training ?
    I play a dex/int with <25% equip burden and I don't have any problem with high poise builds.
    I mean, even if I had poise, dex weps are not good at breaking poise so I'd do the same, I'd dodge.
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    Re: Help concerning a Dex/Int build

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:08 pm

    I need suggestions/help not bragging about that you are good at this. Thank you


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    Re: Help concerning a Dex/Int build

    Post by Gol on Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:10 pm

    lol
    I'm not saying I'm good at this, I just say that you need to dodge and get better at it, based on my experience with a "no-poise" toon.

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    Re: Help concerning a Dex/Int build

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:28 pm

    I know I need training because Im not used to dex builds, my 2 toon are str/faith builds with high poise and big weapons. As such, I really on stunlocks and maybe one kill backstab. This toon is in progress she has very low vitality and endurance but will high dex/INT and faith.


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    Re: Help concerning a Dex/Int build

    Post by ErrJon6661 on Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:42 pm

    Use the dwg ring, with 40 end you can pack on 50 or so poise, which is enough to save you from a mistake or two. You still cant rely on your poise to save you from hits, but its better than 0 by far. Also, get yourself the washing pole if you're going to use a katana. It has better reach and better damage.


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    Re: Help concerning a Dex/Int build

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:46 pm

    ErrJon6661 wrote:Use the dwg ring, with 40 end you can pack on 50 or so poise, which is enough to save you from a mistake or two. You still cant rely on your poise to save you from hits, but its better than 0 by far. Also, get yourself the washing pole if you're going to use a katana. It has better reach and better damage.

    But this is an Endurance build. Washing Pole doesnt scales well with Dex.


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    Re: Help concerning a Dex/Int build

    Post by ErrJon6661 on Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:13 pm

    It scales, just not was well. Honestly the katana's aren't the best in terms of scaling either. But if you're taking hits and having trouble dodging it will be a nice set of training wheels before you can move on to something that scales better with dex.


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    Re: Help concerning a Dex/Int build

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:18 pm

    The Iaito and Uchigatana both have "S" scaling at +15 with the new patch


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    Re: Help concerning a Dex/Int build

    Post by Gol on Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:19 pm

    A scaling, not S.
    I'm using a Iaito.
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    Re: Help concerning a Dex/Int build

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:07 pm

    You are right I have mistaken them for some curved swords that are S. How about some tips? I cant break the poise of heavy armor, then what can I do?


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    Re: Help concerning a Dex/Int build

    Post by ted1023 on Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:35 pm

    If you can't break the poise the best thing to do is never trade blow for blow, they will stun you and you'll be done unless you know how to get out. Since you already know how the stun works... you also have to remember the more poise they have aside from the wolf ring, means they are also using that much more stamina when they swing due to the stamina penalty with allot of the high poise armor... so basic strategy is use CMW buff wait for them to swing and miss and then tag them. Also Parry if you can, it is the ultimate equalizer. This is the best I can think of, also using spells to keep them off balance.


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    Re: Help concerning a Dex/Int build

    Post by barecanvas on Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:45 pm

    Hmy dex intel build is really powerful. Hes under 25% and uses the bss+15 and velkas rapier+ 15
    45 dex 50 int 22 vit and end
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    Re: Help concerning a Dex/Int build

    Post by ted1023 on Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:11 pm

    barecanvas wrote:Hmy dex intel build is really powerful. Hes under 25% and uses the bss+15 and velkas rapier+ 15
    45 dex 50 int 22 vit and end

    Velkas Rapier +15?? do you mean + 5

    with 22 Vit that will give you around 800 maybe 900 hp is that right?

    at 800 Vit I would figure you may be borderline glass cannon. but the other points have interested me..lol

    what buff are you using if any CMW?

    sorry off i went off topic.


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    Re: Help concerning a Dex/Int build

    Post by barecanvas on Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:28 pm

    ted1023 wrote:
    barecanvas wrote:Hmy dex intel build is really powerful. Hes under 25% and uses the bss+15 and velkas rapier+ 15
    45 dex 50 int 22 vit and end

    Velkas Rapier +15?? do you mean + 5

    with 22 Vit that will give you around 800 maybe 900 hp is that right?

    at 800 Vit I would figure you may be borderline glass cannon. but the other points have interested me..lol

    what buff are you using if any CMW?

    sorry off i went off topic.
    Ya sorry Velka's Rapeir +5
    I put 45 in dex because im using normal BSS and it classes A with dex, also because with 45 dex my spell cast time is significantly faster. I only use CMW if somebody buffs their weapon, mainly because people have been ***** lately because my CMW does ridiculous damage on my bss +15. for my spells i keep souls spear ( 8 ) crystal souls spear (4) white dragon breath and CMW. WDB is a really good spell if you are good at predicting where you opponent will move to then un-target cast the spell.
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    Re: Help concerning a Dex/Int build

    Post by Gol on Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:57 pm

    what's the point in having 8 soul spears and only 4 CSS ?
    And with 22 vit/end you're dead, especially with light armors, it's not viable, not against experienced players.

    30 vit/end
    40 dex
    50 int
    19 att

    + the str points required for the weps and you're good.
    It's a spellsword, not a pure mage and even a pure mage has more vit/end.

    Wyrmhero seems "new" to pvp, if he starts with a toon who has like a ton of handicaps it'll be hard.
    If I was him I wouldn't even play that kind of hybrid, when you start go for a build that is "simple", in order to acquire the "basics".

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    Re: Help concerning a Dex/Int build

    Post by barecanvas on Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:07 pm

    Gol wrote:what's the point in having 8 soul spears and only 4 CSS ?
    And with 22 vit/end you're dead, especially with light armors, it's not viable, not against experienced players.

    30 vit/end
    40 dex
    50 int
    19 att

    + the str points required for the weps and you're good.
    It's a spellsword, not a pure mage and even a pure mage has more vit/end.

    Wyrmhero seems "new" to pvp, if he starts with a toon who has like a ton of handicaps it'll be hard.
    If I was him I wouldn't even play that kind of hybrid, when you start go for a build that is "simple", in order to acquire the "basics".
    i win most fights i get into hahahah 8souls spears because i have two att slots ofbthem? Lol
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    Re: Help concerning a Dex/Int build

    Post by xXDaemonarchXx on Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:15 pm

    It's not dex scaled, but the MLGS is hawt.....imo. I love that weapon.


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    Re: Help concerning a Dex/Int build

    Post by xXDaemonarchXx on Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:16 pm

    It's not dex scaled, but the MLGS is hawt.....imo. I love that weapon.


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    Re: Help concerning a Dex/Int build

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:23 pm

    barecanvas wrote:Hmy dex intel build is really powerful. Hes under 25% and uses the bss+15 and velkas rapier+ 15
    45 dex 50 int 22 vit and end

    Yeah thats what Im trying to do. I really need to practice the parry and counter the backstabs. She will be able to cast miracles too. Of she gets hit, she dies.


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    Re: Help concerning a Dex/Int build

    Post by Kaksoppa on Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:20 pm

    Hey, I'm somewhat of a noob, I've only had this game for a week and a half, but I've been playing it religiously since I got it. I've experimented with Dex/Int builds recently and I have two of them. One is a sorc, with high int, high dex and the rest is somewhat lacking. My new character however has 40 Dex, 25 Int (Homing Crystal Soulmass and Crystal Magic Weapon) and really high Vit. Endurance is decent.

    The first character I built was somewhat of a glasscannon. If I could get in a Crystal Soul Spear (rarely happens to me) I could finish them off with a Dex weapon. I couldn't hold my own against anything really.

    My new one however kicks ***. Major ***. I'm loving it. So if you want a good Dex build that utilizes spells go for high Dex, medium Int. happy

    Suggestions for weapons: Ricard's Rapier (A scaling when +15) and Silver Knight Straight Sword (C, but high base damage). Note that these can be enchanted with Magic Weapons, Darkmoon Blade etc, and that's why I suggest them.

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