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    Re: no one attacks anymore

    Post by Kyuseishu on Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:43 pm

    I always think it's funny when people spam parry, during a fight.


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    Re: no one attacks anymore

    Post by reim0027 on Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:03 am

    That's a great way to get back stabbed.


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    Re: no one attacks anymore

    Post by Saturday-Saint on Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:37 am

    PRO tactic #47: Spam parries from a safe distance. When your opponent attempts to punish you, counter BS.


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    Re: no one attacks anymore

    Post by Paragon on Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:46 am

    Saturday-Saint wrote:PRO tactic #47: Spam parries from a safe distance. When your opponent attempts to punish you, counter BS.

    I never thought of doing this! Im such a moron, thanks Saint!


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    Re: no one attacks anymore

    Post by Saturday-Saint on Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:51 am

    Uh that's really just a gimmick, not like a solid strategy or anything that you'd want to make a mainstay of your PvP repertoire.


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    Re: no one attacks anymore

    Post by Paragon on Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:56 am

    Saturday-Saint wrote:Uh that's really just a gimmick, not like a solid strategy or anything that you'd want to make a mainstay of your PvP repertoire.

    You've never played me so I'll tell you up front, I am all about taking gimmicks and turning them into viable strategies. It's goin' in da repertoire!


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    Re: no one attacks anymore

    Post by Sentiel on Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:38 pm

    reim0027 wrote:
    Sentiel wrote:
    reim0027 wrote:If you are sick of duelling randoms, then invade. It is great. You don't know what to expect and how many people you will duel. If you want to take it one step further, try low level invading. I did a tour of Lordran with my SL 6. I had, probably 700+ host kills and it was awesome.
    Oh, I tried that.
    Gankers.
    Jumper.
    Healer.
    Some more gankers.

    It's unholy pain in the Asylum Demons huge ***.

    If I host, the guy is forced to 1v1, unless it's in forest, or I'm Gravelording, meaning I control the fight, which I like, as it secures that I don;t have to put up with the forementioned scenarios when I invade.
    If the invader tries to pull some nonesense at me, I'll just sign out from PSN, which is faster and more plausible to me than using Black Crystal. Using BC is like saying I'm coward, but pulling the plug on invader is like saying "I ain't got time for your :dung: son!" IMO.
    I've done over 1,000 invasions and jumpers are not common (those who wait by summon spots to kill you). As for ganking and healing, of course they are going to do that. You are invading their world. They are questing. They will, and should, do everything they can to kill you. That is the fun.

    Invading is not duelling. You can't invade with that mindset. Broaden your horizons. Learn to think on your feet. Learn to know where 3 people are at one time and how to manipulate it. I tell you, beating 3 people at once is a great feeling.
    I had jumpers quite a lot.
    The usual high Poise guys with GT waiting on your spawn spamming R1 even beofre you get to move, so you get Bleed as soon as possible, or casting Hyper Fire Tempest.

    Anyway, you misunderstood me on the invading. I didn't mean that the stuff people do, like healing and ganking is dishonourable, or they shouldn't do it etc. They can do whatever they want. I only meant that it's annoying to deal with. That's all.

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    Re: no one attacks anymore

    Post by densetsushun on Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:45 pm

    I've been invading a lot more lately and I've learned so much from all the things I used to find annoying. Fishers are dead simple to pivot or counter BS, I've learned to attack less predictably so I barely get parried by randoms, and randoms with big weapons who actually don't fish(2% of strength weapon users I've come across) are dead simple to parry.

    Fishers are good to practice pivot or counter with. Once I understand what a mammi roll is I might decide to practice that on them as well.


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    Re: no one attacks anymore

    Post by Jim Jam 94 on Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:00 pm

    I'm always attacking, not even SL120 yet, I'm sat on 40str, 40end, 35 vit (will be going to 40) and have 30 Faith, I've just logged off so I can't remember what level I am silly

    Using the full set of +5 Black Iron armour and a +15 Demon Great Machete that has an AR of 655 but will soon be using the +5 Chaos Great Club which has an AR of 768. Only problem with this build is you've gotta be patient or you can screw up badly, otherwise it's pretty deadly silly

    Every time I invade (using the Red eye orb you get from the Covenant at Rank 1) the host seems to have someone summoned resulting in a 2v1 (which I have won a few times now which is quite funny) 2v1 is so lame though.
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    Re: no one attacks anymore

    Post by Forum Pirate on Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:12 pm

    luvz2fight wrote:
    Saturday-Saint wrote:PRO tactic #47: Spam parries from a safe distance. When your opponent attempts to punish you, counter BS.

    I never thought of doing this! Im such a moron, thanks Saint!
    I run up and dead angle/cast at/kick these people.


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    Re: no one attacks anymore

    Post by Saturday-Saint on Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:52 pm

    Which is why I said it is an unreliable gimmick.


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    Re: no one attacks anymore

    Post by Paragon on Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:28 am

    Ohohoho.But we shall see. Never be afraid to try something stupid


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    Re: no one attacks anymore

    Post by densetsushun on Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:10 am

    Jim Jam 94 wrote:Using the full set of +5 Black Iron armour and a +15 Demon Great Machete that has an AR of 655 but will soon be using the +5 Chaos Great Club which has an AR of 768. Only problem with this build is you've gotta be patient or you can screw up badly, otherwise it's pretty deadly silly
    If you have the strength for that kind of AR on the DGM, why go Chaos on the Great Club? It'll benefit greatly from being +15.


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    Re: no one attacks anymore

    Post by Jim Jam 94 on Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:57 pm

    densetsushun wrote:
    Jim Jam 94 wrote:Using the full set of +5 Black Iron armour and a +15 Demon Great Machete that has an AR of 655 but will soon be using the +5 Chaos Great Club which has an AR of 768. Only problem with this build is you've gotta be patient or you can screw up badly, otherwise it's pretty deadly silly
    If you have the strength for that kind of AR on the DGM, why go Chaos on the Great Club? It'll benefit greatly from being +15.

    It's actually a lower AR at +15, if Chaos ends up not being worth it, it wont overly matter cause I've gotta get the Chaos Achievement anyway silly I'll more than likely alternate between the DGM and Club anyway
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    Re: no one attacks anymore

    Post by Myztyrio on Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:41 pm

    Jim Jam 94 wrote:
    densetsushun wrote:
    Jim Jam 94 wrote:Using the full set of +5 Black Iron armour and a +15 Demon Great Machete that has an AR of 655 but will soon be using the +5 Chaos Great Club which has an AR of 768. Only problem with this build is you've gotta be patient or you can screw up badly, otherwise it's pretty deadly silly
    If you have the strength for that kind of AR on the DGM, why go Chaos on the Great Club? It'll benefit greatly from being +15.

    It's actually a lower AR at +15, if Chaos ends up not being worth it, it wont overly matter cause I've gotta get the Chaos Achievement anyway silly I'll more than likely alternate between the DGM and Club anyway



    Fire, Chaos, Lightning, and Magic weapons all get split AR's. The attacks have to go through two of the opponent's defenses. Therefore, a weapon that does pure physical or pure magic damage will normally be better.


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    Re: no one attacks anymore

    Post by densetsushun on Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:42 pm

    Jim Jam 94 wrote:
    densetsushun wrote:
    Jim Jam 94 wrote:Using the full set of +5 Black Iron armour and a +15 Demon Great Machete that has an AR of 655 but will soon be using the +5 Chaos Great Club which has an AR of 768. Only problem with this build is you've gotta be patient or you can screw up badly, otherwise it's pretty deadly silly
    If you have the strength for that kind of AR on the DGM, why go Chaos on the Great Club? It'll benefit greatly from being +15.

    It's actually a lower AR at +15, if Chaos ends up not being worth it, it wont overly matter cause I've gotta get the Chaos Achievement anyway silly I'll more than likely alternate between the DGM and Club anyway
    Remember that it's split AR though, Chaos means you have lower phys AR and added fire AR. +15 means 500-600 pure, lean, mean phys AR.


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    Re: no one attacks anymore

    Post by The_Red_Drifter on Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:43 pm

    Total AR isn't everything. With the way defenses work in this game, you'll typically do less damage against most opponents because split is working against two defenses, just as a heads up. Plus Elementals were nerfed anyways, your total AR is actually gonna be 705. Having a lot of AR in one damage type is much better than having a slightly bigger AR in two damage types.Basically, don't go elemental unless your weapon doesn't really benefit from your stats.
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    Re: no one attacks anymore

    Post by reim0027 on Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:21 pm

    +15 will almost always outdamage any other upgrade path (with proper stats). And, they can be buffed. This is not counting Crystal weapons since, for the most part, are impractical for chronic PvP action.



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    Re: no one attacks anymore

    Post by densetsushun on Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:33 am

    Especially with the Btown clubs, their AR is absurd at +15 and base stats. I carry a Great Club on my 28/40 build just because.


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    Re: no one attacks anymore

    Post by Saturday-Saint on Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:36 am

    PW CMW Dragonhornet Great Clubs = #1 don't even try to beat it.


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    Post by densetsushun on Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:38 am

    Saturday-Saint wrote:PW CMW Dragonhornet Great Clubs = #1 don't even try to beat it.
    That's a monstrosity. Does it flip?


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    Re: no one attacks anymore

    Post by WaLKA on Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:51 am

    All I ever get when I play now is BSes and Parries. PvP is losing its fun.

    I mean, that's ALL I see now. If it isn't someone that just walks up + parry, it's someone dancing circles.


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    Post by densetsushun on Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:32 am

    WaLKA wrote:All I ever get when I play now is BSes and Parries. PvP is losing its fun.

    I mean, that's ALL I see now. If it isn't someone that just walks up + parry, it's someone dancing circles.
    Everybody do the BS dance!


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    densetsushun wrote:
    WaLKA wrote:All I ever get when I play now is BSes and Parries. PvP is losing its fun.

    I mean, that's ALL I see now. If it isn't someone that just walks up + parry, it's someone dancing circles.
    Everybody do the BS dance!
    Pretty much. Might as well start playing the song 'Dancing Queen'.

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