Gold tracer, dark tracer. PvP, PvE

    Share
    avatar
    Zakkia
    Obsessed
    Obsessed

    Posts : 581
    Reputation : 13
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Age : 22
    Location : USA Rocky mountains.

    Gold tracer, dark tracer. PvP, PvE

    Post by Zakkia on Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:32 pm

    I have seen many topics based on these 2 weapons, seems to be they finally initiated an effective duel wielding set in dks, however ive seen all these threads about these 2 weapons but alot of people fail to answer my question about whether or not these actually do quite well in pvp, as well as boss fights for PvE.
    avatar
    Ghadis_God
    Revived
    Revived

    Posts : 2290
    Reputation : 120
    Join date : 2012-05-27

    Re: Gold tracer, dark tracer. PvP, PvE

    Post by Ghadis_God on Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:47 pm

    Duel wielding them is hard, but both of them are very effective in the right hand. They're better for PvP in general because bleed and Toxin actually mean something, not to mention the GT's DPS when two handed.


    _________________
    7:eye-death: http://soulswiki.forumsrpg.com/t22607-children-of-the-grave-now-recruiting#472079 :eye-death:             

    PSN accounts: Ghadis_God
                         ringo_mogire_SZS
    avatar
    Zakkia
    Obsessed
    Obsessed

    Posts : 581
    Reputation : 13
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Age : 22
    Location : USA Rocky mountains.

    Re: Gold tracer, dark tracer. PvP, PvE

    Post by Zakkia on Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:53 pm

    well from what ive researched the gold tracer is a must in the left hand, however, i faced a duel wielding tracer and i destroyed him, he got a lucky backstab every now and then but overall i felt like it wasnt the way it was meant to played, i think a really strong build can be built around it, perhaps SL 120 or aroudn there.
    avatar
    Carphil
    Chat Moderator

    Posts : 4921
    Reputation : 90
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Age : 21
    Location : Brazil

    Re: Gold tracer, dark tracer. PvP, PvE

    Post by Carphil on Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:54 pm

    The gold tracer resembles the paiting guardian sword, with higher range and bleed effect.

    Its useful in left hand, but you must remember that you can't parry, which I find very strange because I thought the point was to parry with the gold one and riposte with the silver one.


    _________________
    It may take a day or ten thousand years, but I will find her. This is a promise.

    I'm not the chosen one, I'm the one who chose to be more.

    Carphil_BR on PSN :bas:
    avatar
    Zakkia
    Obsessed
    Obsessed

    Posts : 581
    Reputation : 13
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Age : 22
    Location : USA Rocky mountains.

    Re: Gold tracer, dark tracer. PvP, PvE

    Post by Zakkia on Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:55 pm

    Well, i guess another question im asking, is how does a tracer dex build fare with a different dex build? katana, etc. damage wise.
    avatar
    BLA1NE
    Stat Guru
    Stat Guru

    Posts : 2631
    Reputation : 172
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Location : Montreal

    Re: Gold tracer, dark tracer. PvP, PvE

    Post by BLA1NE on Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:03 pm

    Zakkia wrote:well from what ive researched the gold tracer is a must in the left hand, however, i faced a duel wielding tracer and i destroyed him, he got a lucky backstab every now and then but overall i felt like it wasnt the way it was meant to played, i think a really strong build can be built around it, perhaps SL 120 or aroudn there.
    The Gold Tracer is definitely not a must in the offhand, especially for PvP. Its offhand moveset consists of only multi-hit attacks, so you're inevitably stuck in long animations that leave you completely vulnerable.

    The Gold Tracer in the main hand though, two handed, is a beast. You can make a very good mid level build around it, too. Here: http://mmdks.com/bjs --just add Vit as desired and it's a powerful low/ mid level build.


    _________________
    Blaine Incarnate
    avatar
    Zakkia
    Obsessed
    Obsessed

    Posts : 581
    Reputation : 13
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Age : 22
    Location : USA Rocky mountains.

    Re: Gold tracer, dark tracer. PvP, PvE

    Post by Zakkia on Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:08 pm

    I see, im mainly looking to build a 120 dex build however, and was simply researching whether or not the dual tracers could actually beat most dex builds. At that level of course.
    avatar
    Zakkia
    Obsessed
    Obsessed

    Posts : 581
    Reputation : 13
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Age : 22
    Location : USA Rocky mountains.

    Re: Gold tracer, dark tracer. PvP, PvE

    Post by Zakkia on Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:48 pm

    bump* any experienced dex builders out there?
    avatar
    BLA1NE
    Stat Guru
    Stat Guru

    Posts : 2631
    Reputation : 172
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Location : Montreal

    Re: Gold tracer, dark tracer. PvP, PvE

    Post by BLA1NE on Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:33 am

    SL120 is high enough for you to build a character with 4 good stats (usually Vit and End, plus a combination of 2 out of Dex, Str, Int, or Fth). Since the Gold Tracer doesn't require any Str and can't be buffed, you're looking at 3 out of 4 main stats (Vit, End, Dex), leaving you a lot of levels to spare for an extra stat.

    That stat could either be a lot of Att, in which case you could stack a lot of pyro spells. Or you could still invest in Int or Fth for their spells, only you wouldn't be able to take advantage of their buffing spells.

    So while you're making your SL120 with 3+1 main stats, be aware that you'll be coming up against SL120s that are fully taking advantage of 4 main stats. This could be a disadvantage. However, the Gold Tracer is such a competent weapon (two-handed) that it will still be very viable at that SL. Especially because of its bleed.

    So you can make yourself a 3+1 build if you like, or you can aim for a lower SL (say: 100, where you'd only be focusing on the 3 main stats you need) and make an absolute killer build centered on the Gold Tracer.

    Example killer SL100 build: http://mmdks.com/bma


    _________________
    Blaine Incarnate
    avatar
    Zakkia
    Obsessed
    Obsessed

    Posts : 581
    Reputation : 13
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Age : 22
    Location : USA Rocky mountains.

    Re: Gold tracer, dark tracer. PvP, PvE

    Post by Zakkia on Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:50 am

    Interesting, ive made many successful builds, but i always find dex the hardest silly thanks!
    avatar
    Rynn
    Chosen Undead
    Chosen Undead

    Posts : 4689
    Reputation : 257
    Join date : 2012-01-26

    Re: Gold tracer, dark tracer. PvP, PvE

    Post by Rynn on Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:09 am

    The silver tracer is amazing in the mainhand if you're good with parries. You primarily use the R2 to get toxin off, and you're playing a much more defensive style. Forcing your opponent to eventually get parried as toxin slowly (rather quickly actually) takes them down.
    avatar
    GkMrBane
    Caffeinated
    Caffeinated

    Posts : 941
    Reputation : 22
    Join date : 2012-04-19
    Location : In the forest warming up on Covi's

    Re: Gold tracer, dark tracer. PvP, PvE

    Post by GkMrBane on Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:36 am

    Stamina is a major constrant when duel weilding as well as the gold tracer locking you in a move set for extended periods of time which leave you open to stunlocking.

    its hard to imagine a build that could use such weapons together.

    Edit: Dont get me wrong im not saying there bad im just saying their benifits seem to be taken better advantage of separately.

    P.s the Gold tracer destroys health hackers.


    _________________
    Forum Pirate wrote:One can learn to like having nails driven through their knees. Doesn't mean they'll enjoy learning.


    "Plain Childish" said the small man, to which the much bigger man said "it wont seem so childish when it happens to you"

    The Silver Big hat SL 200 (anti-mage, mage) http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=299020992731779294

    And his little mage hunting brother SL100 http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=391801110669564162

    Move Like a Rapier Sting like a claymore http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=329792397855464820

    If the cost of keeping a thread on topic is a down vote then I will make that sacrifice.

    Sponsored content

    Re: Gold tracer, dark tracer. PvP, PvE

    Post by Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Sat Oct 21, 2017 12:05 am