What weapons would you like removed from Dark Souls?

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    What weapons would you like removed from Dark Souls?

    Post by IV_Mark_VI on Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:52 am

    Exactly as the topic says.

    I love Dark Souls take on combat, I really do. But some weapons just irk me, because I think how ridiculous they are and how ineffective they are. For their uptake on Medieval combat, they've done quite well, but some weapons, to me, just don't fit at all.

    Example: Large Scythe. What a goofy weapon. Give me a link to people using this exact weapon in combat (not modified, not taking the blade off and making it into a different weapon) and I'll retract. But this weapon would be so bad to actually fight with.
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    Post by BIG TIME MASTER on Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:56 am

    Smoughs hammer

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    Post by Bcc17 on Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:00 pm

    Probably the whip and notched whip, I think they both are pretty terrible.


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    Re: What weapons would you like removed from Dark Souls?

    Post by fujiphoenix on Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:01 pm

    Well, if we were going realistic, then any large weapon, such as a halberd, great axe, greatsword, ultra greatsword, or great hammer should not be able to be one handed. Most of those wouldn't even be wieldable with two hands.

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    Post by IV_Mark_VI on Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:18 pm

    Well some of that is for balance. For instance, the Great sword like a claymore; it's actually much quicker in real life than in the game, and the techniques to use it (according to my friend, that fights with medieval weapons) are different. Such as using the butt-end, grabbing the middle of the blade and using it as a spear, etc.

    As for using it 1handed, don't have a good answer. According to wiki, it weighed about 5.5 lbs. A broadsword weighed between 3-5 lbs and was one handed, so it seems the weight may not be an issue.

    A halberd, just for the fighting technique, would probably need to be wielded 2 handed, but they can't duplicate the intricacies of how someone would fight with it. Halberds could trip and parry, and you just couldn't do that with a game like dark souls.

    I don't have an issue with them not being able to duplicate how you would actually fight with such weapons, since I think that's impossible, but I have an issue with the weapons themselves.


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    Re: What weapons would you like removed from Dark Souls?

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:28 pm

    why would you remove weapons?
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    Post by Frostacar on Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:49 pm

    That's tough question, Though I generally like most Weapons and alternate a lot between them I can't say I'd want weapons removed.

    Yet if I had to choose, the Lucerne and Pickaxe.

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    Re: What weapons would you like removed from Dark Souls?

    Post by IV_Mark_VI on Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:53 pm

    Lucerne was actually an effective weapon.

    Scythe was not.
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    Re: What weapons would you like removed from Dark Souls?

    Post by Shkar on Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:15 pm

    Personally, I hate how versatile the katanas are in the game. Wicked range, great speed (incredible for buffs), decent poise breaking abilities, all wrapped up in a neat, bleeding package. Combine that with Dex weapons as a whole increasing your cast speed and it just seems OP.



    That said, I don't think REMOVING them would be the right answer. Just changing them.


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    Re: What weapons would you like removed from Dark Souls?

    Post by Jester's Tears on Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:21 pm

    Channeler's Trident...That dance freaks me the fu*k out...

    Joke's asaide. The Washing Pole. It got decent stats and the range is annoying for cowards that LOVES spamming the R1 button (Im not at parrying so that's maybe why.)


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    Re: What weapons would you like removed from Dark Souls?

    Post by WyrmHero on Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:25 pm

    fujiphoenix wrote:Well, if we were going realistic, then any large weapon, such as a halberd, great axe, greatsword, ultra greatsword, or great hammer should not be able to be one handed. Most of those wouldn't even be wieldable with two hands.

    Why the Str weapons hate?


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    Re: What weapons would you like removed from Dark Souls?

    Post by WyrmHero on Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:31 pm

    I would remove the BSS, way too much damage for such a tiny sword.


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    Re: What weapons would you like removed from Dark Souls?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:32 pm

    if were going based on realism than all magic would have to go.

    and pickaxes are just a poormans version of the warpick which was an actual effective weapon for opening up armored knights like tin cans...

    the washingpole also is impractical, due to its legth you couldn't swing it without hitting the ground or nearby walls, which means you'd have a very limited choice of attacks


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    Re: What weapons would you like removed from Dark Souls?

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:32 pm

    Really wyrm? the bss has basically the same dmg as every other straight sword, it just has a better move set. I do wish there was a straight sword that scaled in str like it scales in dex.
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    Re: What weapons would you like removed from Dark Souls?

    Post by cloudyeki on Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:37 pm

    IV_Mark_VI wrote:As for using it 1handed, don't have a good answer. According to wiki, it weighed about 5.5 lbs. A broadsword weighed between 3-5 lbs and was one handed, so it seems the weight may not be an issue.

    Weight isn't the issue, it's the size, in which you have to be able to maneuver the blade around and deal with the greater swing momentum.


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    Re: What weapons would you like removed from Dark Souls?

    Post by ZikoLogiKa NL on Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:02 pm

    I would like to see poking behind a shield with a spear or rapier removed


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    Re: What weapons would you like removed from Dark Souls?

    Post by IV_Mark_VI on Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:07 pm

    Sorry; when I say "realism" I meant realism according to the rules of said world.

    So I'm making the assumption that in the 'physics' of Dark Souls, magic exists, characters can be godly strong, and a sword is much better than a Farmer's implement for harvesting wheat.


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    Re: What weapons would you like removed from Dark Souls?

    Post by Bcc17 on Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:09 pm

    IV_Mark_VI wrote:Sorry; when I say "realism" I meant realism according to the rules of said world.

    So I'm making the assumption that in the 'physics' of Dark Souls, magic exists, characters can be godly strong, and a sword is much better than a Farmer's implement for harvesting wheat.

    That farmer's implement could easily slice through the neck of an enemy.

    Just saying.


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    Re: What weapons would you like removed from Dark Souls?

    Post by ZikoLogiKa NL on Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:12 pm

    Ooh Mark , I really love my Great Scythe big grin


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    Re: What weapons would you like removed from Dark Souls?

    Post by Fotitudo on Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:37 pm

    Every greathammer, they are slow and ugly as hell. Stuff like the pickaxe, claws, whips etc.
    I want serious weapons! And not the biggest crap!

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    Post by IV_Mark_VI on Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:44 pm

    Any blade can slice through a neck. So could a letter opener. Doesn't mean it's a weapon I want to go into a fight with.

    For anyone pro-scythe: I want to see a medieval fighting video with one. I see longswords, greatswords, rapiers. I don't see Scythes.


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    Re: What weapons would you like removed from Dark Souls?

    Post by Fotitudo on Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:47 pm

    oh i remember my two nemesis weapons.

    Murakumo and washing pole. I think these weapons dont need any skill so f*ck someone up ...
    less skill than a spear against a 0 poise guy.
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    Re: What weapons would you like removed from Dark Souls?

    Post by ZikoLogiKa NL on Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:51 pm

    Arguably worse than the military scythe, the version wielded by peasants in revolts would often be blunt from use in farming, meaning the victim was likely to survive numerous slashes before dying.

    This leads me to believe that the regular scythes were being used as weapons by people who didn't have better resources. Nowadays people also use tools as weapons if they don't have anything more effective.

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    Adapted from the common farming tool, war scythes were altered so that the blade pointed straight from the top of the shaft. War scythes were used as both a slashing and a stabbing weapon, their weight and aerodynamic shape making them devastating. Capable of cutting through a metal helmet, the weapon is thought to have originated from use as an improvised weapon by peasants, which was then adapted for military use.


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    Re: What weapons would you like removed from Dark Souls?

    Post by ZikoLogiKa NL on Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:00 pm

    The Shotel also resembles a farming tool namingly ''the Sickle'' :pirat:



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    Re: What weapons would you like removed from Dark Souls?

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:06 pm

    LOL mark its clear that you have just been having trouble fighting the scythe. Its a great weapon, one of the best in the game. You are assuming that the one in the game is not somehow modified for battle. Plus by your logic many weapons should be removed, including the shotel.

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