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    Post by joeclone on Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:36 pm

    i have been using the black knight greatsword +5. and it is proving to be wayyyy stronger than anything else i have found, or even made for that matter. it's doing much better than even the +5 lightening zwei, or +5 fore great sword. is this to be expected? or do i just have a lot more upgrading to do?


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    Post by Juutas on Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:39 pm

    What..? BKGS sucks so bad :o there is no way it makes more dmg than lightning Zweihander.


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    Post by Pesth on Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:40 pm

    the stronger weapon is the one you like most, for me, the strongest weapon in the game is black knight halberd lol!

    but you can aways use the mugen monkey to test things out
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    Since the elemental weapon do split dmg i think the bkgs will be way better in some situations


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    Post by IV_Mark_VI on Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:40 pm

    What stats do you have? And are you using it PvE or PvP?

    Focused damage is usually better than split in my experience.
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    Post by WyrmHero on Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:42 pm

    Yeah I think a BKGS with proper stats will out damage a lightning Zweih.


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    Post by joeclone on Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:47 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:Yeah I think a BKGS with proper stats will out damage a lightning Zweih.

    yeah a whole lot more. every weapon i make is disapointing me but at least i have elemental weapons i guess.


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    Post by IV_Mark_VI on Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:51 pm

    Stronger is not defined very well in your post.

    Stronger in damage per strike, or Damage per second? If you're fighting 4 kings, where you need a high DPS, a lighter weapon, buffed, will outdamage your Greatsword.

    Reach, damage, stamina drain, striking speed are all factors. If you're just looking at Damage, then great weapons are the way to go.
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    Post by Bloodios on Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:23 pm

    At maxed strength (99) and dexterity (99), the maxed out (a.k.a. +5) Black Knight Greatsword still deals about 12% less damage than a maxed out (a.k.a +5) Lightning Zweihänder (and Lightning weapons don't scale with stats, so...)


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    Post by RANT on Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:31 pm

    Bkgs DOES NOT suck, that thing is awesome. If you like the bkgs you're gonna love my beloved DGM, try it and you'll see.


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    Post by Yarxov on Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:58 pm

    Bloodios wrote:At maxed strength (99) and dexterity (99), the maxed out (a.k.a. +5) Black Knight Greatsword still deals about 12% less damage than a maxed out (a.k.a +5) Lightning Zweihänder (and Lightning weapons don't scale with stats, so...)
    Youre forgetting split damage, 12% less of pure physical is much much better than lightning split damage.


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    Post by joeclone on Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:03 pm

    RantFromRant wrote:Bkgs DOES NOT suck, that thing is awesome. If you like the bkgs you're gonna love my beloved DGM, try it and you'll see.

    demons great manchette?


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    Post by Yarxov on Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:05 pm

    machete*
    It has A scaling in strength. really high damage.


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    Post by IV_Mark_VI on Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:09 pm

    Honestly I tried the machete, a lot. I have it upgraded to +15. And I prefer the Greatsword, or the BKGA. It's just so much slower!


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    Post by Bloodios on Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:20 pm

    Yarxov wrote:
    Bloodios wrote:At maxed strength (99) and dexterity (99), the maxed out (a.k.a. +5) Black Knight Greatsword still deals about 12% less damage than a maxed out (a.k.a +5) Lightning Zweihänder (and Lightning weapons don't scale with stats, so...)
    Youre forgetting split damage, 12% less of pure physical is much much better than lightning split damage.
    Perhaps... but if we're going with pure physical, +15 Greatsword or Zweihänder would steal deal more damage than a maxed out Black Knight Greatsword. And I'm not sure if that slow heavy attack would really do any good...

    In my opinion though, if one is seeking pure physical monstrosity, the Demon's Greataxe would be a better fit.
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    Post by joeclone on Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:44 pm

    but the demons great axe is so slow silly

    anywho my new +7 fire greatsword does seem to be doing a decent ammount of dammage, but now im almost done with my quest


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    Post by Shakie666 on Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:51 pm

    The demon's greataxe isn't that slow. In fact, i'm sure its quicker than the ultra greatswords, but it doesn't hit things in a wide arc like the ultra greatswords do (unless you use the 1h R2 attack, which is just awesome).

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