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    Post by omega Elf Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:59 pm

    Using the Washing Pole's 2h r2 you can effectively counter the
    dragon roar. I did it 3 times to a phantom who was using the
    glitch, killing both him and the host.
    You have to catch them right at the edge of the swing, so as not
    to get caught, but it's actually very easy to pull off.
    I've not tested other weapons, such as spears, but maybe they
    work also.
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    Post by IceIfrit666 Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:18 pm

    DSS or Silver spear might work.
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    Post by Gaxe Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:21 pm

    Would DSS's 2H R2 work?
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    Post by Rynn Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:22 pm

    omega Elf wrote:Using the Washing Pole's 2h r2 you can effectively counter the
    dragon roar. I did it 3 times to a phantom who was using the
    glitch, killing both him and the host.
    You have to catch them right at the edge of the swing, so as not
    to get caught, but it's actually very easy to pull off.
    I've not tested other weapons, such as spears, but maybe they
    work also.
    This counter works with any weapon above 6.0 in length if it has a thrusting attack. Two handing the demon spear is the best option.

    The sad thing is some dragon glitchers now use the wolf ring, effectively nullifying this one and only weakness.
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    Post by dancash1808 Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:09 pm

    Oh man I was wondering how long till they twigged to the wolf ring... pity if I could catch one on the back foot armor of thorns rolling them was amusing.
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    Post by DarkW17 Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:50 pm

    Great stategy nothing wrong with that!

    What I have noticed is that they have to kinda turn to the side and delay abit before they can get it off...by this time I have already pulled my chaos rapier outta there back!!!

    I'm not singling out the dragon COV tho... hell I got a head and torse in all my build like most people do...but ya unfortunately I just bs them the second I see one now to be on the safe side....this really sucks I used to have fun duels with dragons!!

    I recorded the funniest video...in the burg and the dragon bows so I bow...then of course I start eat the daggers...but before I die I am already blocking him and the video ends...what a fun duel 😕
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    Post by FruitPunchNinja Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:03 pm

    Yea i would say the knives are worse then the roar, cause they can get you from a pretty far distance. So sometimes they hit you right as you are about to backstab them. From what i can tell there is no way for you to get out of the stagger it causes once you're in, unless the glitcher makes a mistake. It really needs to be patched.
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    Post by omega Elf Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:05 pm

    Rynn wrote:
    omega Elf wrote:Using the Washing Pole's 2h r2 you can effectively counter the
    dragon roar. I did it 3 times to a phantom who was using the
    glitch, killing both him and the host.
    You have to catch them right at the edge of the swing, so as not
    to get caught, but it's actually very easy to pull off.
    I've not tested other weapons, such as spears, but maybe they
    work also.
    This counter works with any weapon above 6.0 in length if it has a thrusting attack. Two handing the demon spear is the best option.

    The sad thing is some dragon glitchers now use the wolf ring, effectively nullifying this one and only weakness.

    It doesn't matter if they use the Wolf ring, that doesn't
    prevent me from inflicting massive damage on them.
    I'm sure I could easily attack them multiple times if I
    wanted to, I was well out of range.
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    Post by Pesth Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:34 pm

    omega Elf wrote:
    Rynn wrote:
    omega Elf wrote:Using the Washing Pole's 2h r2 you can effectively counter the
    dragon roar. I did it 3 times to a phantom who was using the
    glitch, killing both him and the host.
    You have to catch them right at the edge of the swing, so as not
    to get caught, but it's actually very easy to pull off.
    I've not tested other weapons, such as spears, but maybe they
    work also.
    This counter works with any weapon above 6.0 in length if it has a thrusting attack. Two handing the demon spear is the best option.

    The sad thing is some dragon glitchers now use the wolf ring, effectively nullifying this one and only weakness.

    It doesn't matter if they use the Wolf ring, that doesn't
    prevent me from inflicting massive damage on them.
    I'm sure I could easily attack them multiple times if I
    wanted to, I was well out of range.

    what she/he :suspect: tryied to say is that you cant stunlock a dragon with just one hit because of the wolf ring and the unlimited roar will continue.
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    Post by omega Elf Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:53 pm

    Pesth wrote:
    omega Elf wrote:
    Rynn wrote:
    omega Elf wrote:Using the Washing Pole's 2h r2 you can effectively counter the
    dragon roar. I did it 3 times to a phantom who was using the
    glitch, killing both him and the host.
    You have to catch them right at the edge of the swing, so as not
    to get caught, but it's actually very easy to pull off.
    I've not tested other weapons, such as spears, but maybe they
    work also.
    This counter works with any weapon above 6.0 in length if it has a thrusting attack. Two handing the demon spear is the best option.

    The sad thing is some dragon glitchers now use the wolf ring, effectively nullifying this one and only weakness.

    It doesn't matter if they use the Wolf ring, that doesn't
    prevent me from inflicting massive damage on them.
    I'm sure I could easily attack them multiple times if I
    wanted to, I was well out of range.

    what she/he :suspect: tryied to say is that you cant stunlock a dragon with just one hit because of the wolf ring and the unlimited roar will continue.

    But you can stun them with successive hits, then the roar, is
    no more.
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    Post by dancash1808 Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:50 pm

    But you move forwards and if they have half a brain (a bit optimistic of me I know) they will close the distance and lock you.
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    Post by skarekrow13 Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:00 pm

    Does karmic justice trigger from roars? I'm not sure what poise it takes to avoid that flattening you but I haven't seen it yet (including a giants armor wearing camper and many mobs with a shield up)


    EDIT: Also the glitch causes a severe speed reduction during use. Fleeing and wasting their time can be fun. Or a method to lure them


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    Post by Carphil Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:02 pm

    Does it deflect emit force? What about karmic justice? Cast -> get yourself stunlocked by the infinte roar -> laugh

    never tried, just theory

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    Post by skarekrow13 Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:07 pm

    If I could connect reliably I would test with someone. I've had kj trigger from hits that caused no damage before but it was a rolling i-frame hit so it may have have just recognized it as "damage." However the damage taken is confirmed to be irrelevant with the number of hits being the trigger. Personally I'm hopeful kj would work
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    Post by IceIfrit666 Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:13 pm

    2 days ago I found that flame tempest works fairly well, massive damage and guarantees a knock down.
    You have to be pretty unlucky for the pillars to miss.

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